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muppetman11 23-04-2011 21:15

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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35220499)
PQ is subjective. Some like it, some don't. Miine rarely re-boots. All of my "new only" SLs are working fine. EPG data has always been occasionally flakey, even with the S1. It's three clicks to set up a basic CL. Hardly "long-winded".

Thanks for that Carl , an honest review :D

Hugh 23-04-2011 21:18

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35220500)
Thanks for that Carl , an honest review :D

as balanced as yours....;)

passingbat 23-04-2011 21:18

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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35220498)
When you set up your wishlist go down to category and it lets you pick HD,Found this whilst playing and it works a treat is actually listed on my box as psychoville*HD i have done the same with torchwood but only put it to record new.
It then chooses the HD version instead of SD

I see. But when you set a whishlist up for an actor, say, you don't know what channel the show will be on for future shows. If you select HD as a category, what happens if the show turns up on an SD channel only? I guess it won't record it?

howardmicks 23-04-2011 21:21

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35220504)
I see. But when you set a whishlist up for an actor, say, you don't know what channel the show will be on for future shows. If you select HD as a category, what happens if the show turns up on an SD channel only? I guess it won't record it?

Could be right there,But i have just wishlisted the shows so far that i know are in HD and so far they are working and recording HD
Might be worth setting something that will only be available in the future in sd and see what it does

muppetman11 23-04-2011 21:25

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35220503)
as balanced as yours....;)

I wasn't being sarcastic Hugh , Carl stated it hardly ever rebooted not it never , the epg data was flakey and also gave the good points , all in all very balanced.

passingbat 23-04-2011 21:28

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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35220507)
Could be right there,But i have just wishlisted the shows so far that i know are in HD and so far they are working and recording HD

It's handy that you can view a list of planned recordings just of your wishlist searches. One way is to check this every so often and cancel any SD shows that have an HD version, and add the HD version.

It would be nice to have Tivo do this automatically and I hope in the future it can.

HDFootyMan 23-04-2011 21:41

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The Wishlist I created for Sci-Fi movies seems to be picking HD content when possible anyway, from channels like Syfy HD, Film 4 HD, E4 HD etc.

I certainly didn't insist on it recording HD only, and given the search and the sheer range of channels to search from, that was probably the right decision - not that I think I could do Sci-Fi movies + HD for the category anyway? :confused:

howardmicks 23-04-2011 21:42

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35220510)
It's handy that you can view a list of planned recordings just of your wishlist searches. One way is to check this every so often and cancel any SD shows that have an HD version, and add the HD version.

It would be nice to have Tivo do this automatically and I hope in the future it can.

Agree

HDFootyMan 23-04-2011 22:10

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Just goggled up a useful tip regarding giving priority to HD versions of programmes in Wishlists: You can create duplicate Wishlists based on a programme title, give one Wishlist a category of HD, and the other Wishlist no category.

Then give the HD Wishlist priority over the other, HD-less one. When TiVo finds a HD version of the programme, it will record it, and the SD version will be ignored due to the lower priority and the fact that the episode is a duplicate of the HD version.

If there is no HD version, then the HD-less Wishlist will record the SD version.

http://forums.tivo.com/pe/action/for...ie=x#e10430535

Mad Bee 23-04-2011 22:27

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Wanted to watch the snooker on the red button but all TiVo does is bring up the iPlayer.

Is there no BBC red button functionality then? Anyone know when it'll be available?

howardmicks 23-04-2011 22:32

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35220538)
Just goggled up a useful tip regarding giving priority to HD versions of programmes in Wishlists: You can create duplicate Wishlists based on a programme title, give one Wishlist a category of HD, and the other Wishlist no category.

Then give the HD Wishlist priority over the other, HD-less one. When TiVo finds a HD version of the programme, it will record it, and the SD version will be ignored due to the lower priority and the fact that the episode is a duplicate of the HD version.

If there is no HD version, then the HD-less Wishlist will record the SD version.

http://forums.tivo.com/pe/action/for...ie=x#e10430535

Nice1,Is it me or is tivo just getting better and better:)

Doz007 23-04-2011 22:38

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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35220547)
Nice1,Is it me or is tivo just getting better and better:)

I get the feeling we're all just scratching the surface! :D:D

toady 23-04-2011 22:42

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Originally Posted by Mad Bee (Post 35220545)
Wanted to watch the snooker on the red button but all TiVo does is bring up the iPlayer.

Is there no BBC red button functionality then?

Not at the moment

howardmicks 23-04-2011 22:55

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Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35220548)
I get the feeling we're all just scratching the surface! :D:D

Totally Agree;)

devilincarnate 23-04-2011 22:58

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Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35220548)
I get the feeling we're all just scratching the surface! :D:D

There is a lot more to it and i think that we are just cracking the ice:) and not fallen through yet:D:D:D

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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35220554)
Totally Agree;)

True I really want to see the full potential of this lovely box;)

carlwaring 23-04-2011 23:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35220500)
Thanks for that Carl , an honest review :D

You expected anything less? ;)

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35220508)
.. Carl stated it hardly ever rebooted not it never , the epg data was flakey and also gave the good points , all in all very balanced.

I know that some people do seem to be experiencing more re-boots than others. I had to re-boot mine between Dr Who and DWC as it stpped responding to the remote, which was really annoying. Likewise I don't experience too many EPG issues. Can't wait until all the menu screens are in HD either!

It's not perfect by any definition, but the problems are relatively minor and it is certainly the best mass-market DVR currently available.

Okay. Gratuitious plug time. Read my full review here: http://www.virginmediainfo.co.uk/tivo.shtml

fixerman 23-04-2011 23:23

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Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd (Post 35220315)
That's one dark and creepy victorian drama. I love it. Don't think I would have ventured into the lap dancing bars in them days :)

If I were to go to a lap dancing bar these days it would be for a drink!:D

denphone 24-04-2011 08:26

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Well l have now had Tivo since Wednesday and l have to admit it is a very impressive piece of kit which is light years ahead of other set top boxes that l have had, everything moves much quicker than my other boxes which are now relegated to the conference league.
l believe this box has tremendous potential and now it is up to Virgin to realise this potential.

Perfect Choice 24-04-2011 08:54

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Originally Posted by Mad Bee (Post 35220545)
Wanted to watch the snooker on the red button but all TiVo does is bring up the iPlayer.

Is there no BBC red button functionality then? Anyone know when it'll be available?

In development, expect June I think.

denphone 24-04-2011 09:17

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This is the one area that the tivo is weak in at the moment is the interactive features and hopefully they will add these features quickly.

sminkypinky 24-04-2011 09:41

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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35220498)
When you set up your wishlist go down to category and it lets you pick HD,Found this whilst playing and it works a treat is actually listed on my box as psychoville*HD i have done the same with torchwood but only put it to record new.
It then chooses the HD version instead of SD

I'm really going to have to find some time alone with my TiVo to have a play around with the wishlists. A full house with the kids being on holiday has not given me and my new baby enough quality time alone together. Kids back at school Tuesday, off work on Wednesday, not long to wait!

cupcakes aka dd 24-04-2011 10:08

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Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35220575)
If I were to go to a lap dancing bar these days it would be for a drink!:D

Hey Fixerman never say die. Your as old as the girl you feel :D

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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35220409)
Couple off weeks ago created a wishlist for psychoville HD(great show),Checked to day and there its is set for thurs 5th may 10.00 on bbc hd.Didnt even know was coming back on yet so got to say well impressed

Is this a new series or repeats?

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I'm loving Tivo already. Like the way it puts series into folders with the option to play all. Have tons of recordings and only 10% of drive used. My V+ would have been almost full by now.

howardmicks 24-04-2011 11:59

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Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd (Post 35220680)
Hey Fixerman never say die. Your as old as the girl you feel :D

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Is this a new series or repeats?

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I'm loving Tivo already. Like the way it puts series into folders with the option to play all. Have tons of recordings and only 10% of drive used. My V+ would have been almost full by now.

New series matey :)

Dan20 24-04-2011 12:05

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My series link on Megastructures gave me seven copies of the same episode recorded last week. I guess this is another of those poor guide programming results. (Oh well, doesn't take long to delete the extras and it made sure I didn't miss it!)

muppetman11 24-04-2011 12:19

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Anyone know whether there will be a big marketing push for TIVO so far I've not seen a single leaflet , TV advert etc ?

denphone 24-04-2011 12:22

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35220746)
Anyone know whether there will be a big marketing push for TIVO so far I've not seen a single leaflet , TV advert etc ?

No nothing so far.

passingbat 24-04-2011 12:51

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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35220567)

Okay. Gratuitious plug time. Read my full review here: http://www.virginmediainfo.co.uk/tivo.shtml

Very good and well presented review Carl; definitely worth the maximum tivo thumbs up!

Sorry, I do have to disagree on this bit on Youtube though:

Quote:

Personally, as the vast majority of these will be copyright-infringing clips uploaded by YT users, I don't think that VM should be making them available so easily. In fact, I don't see any reason or necessity for YouTube to be available at all anyway. That's just my opinion though. I have my PC for internet access and my TV for watching TV. Of course, streaming movie services are another thing entirely!
I think it's a great feature. Why come away from the TV to switch the PC on to get information that is available from one click on the TV you are already watching?

Now, if they also added a link to Internet Movie Database, that would be great, though a lot of that information is there already, just not as complete.

muppetman11 24-04-2011 12:57

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35220767)
Very good and well presented review Carl; definitely worth the maximum tivo thumbs up!

Sorry, I do have to disagree on this bit on Youtube though:



I think it's a great feature. Why come away from the TV to switch the PC on to get information that is available from one click on the TV you are already watching?

Now, if they also added a link to Internet Movie Database, that would be great, though a lot of that information is there already, just not as complete.

shock horror :D I agree with Carl , I personally see YT apps useless I'd rather use the full version on my computer , pretty much the same opinion with Twitter and Facebook.

denphone 24-04-2011 13:02

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35220767)
Very good and well presented review Carl; definitely worth the maximum tivo thumbs up!

Sorry, I do have to disagree on this bit on Youtube though:



I think it's a great feature. Why come away from the TV to switch the PC on to get information that is available from one click on the TV you are already watching?

Now, if they also added a link to Internet Movie Database, that would be great, though a lot of that information is there already, just not as complete.

Yes a excellent review but again l have to disagree with your view about Youtube as l am loving that.

cupcakes aka dd 24-04-2011 13:08

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I like the way you can watch a programme and then hit a button and get Youtube info on it. Great.

passingbat 24-04-2011 13:35

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35220769)
shock horror :D I agree with Carl , I personally see YT apps useless I'd rather use the full version on my computer , pretty much the same opinion with Twitter and Facebook.

To be fair though --- you haven't used it on tivo. The reviews I read about it didn't explain how well implemented and convenient it is.

If you are a person that does use Youtube for such things, I suspect that, when you come back over from the 'Dark Side' :D and get tivo, you will find yourself using it!

whoareyou 24-04-2011 13:42

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I found the Tivo YT app dosent find the same results as the web page?

muppetman11 24-04-2011 13:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35220767)
Very good and well presented review Carl; definitely worth the maximum tivo thumbs up!

Sorry, I do have to disagree on this bit on Youtube though:



I think it's a great feature. Why come away from the TV to switch the PC on to get information that is available from one click on the TV you are already watching?

Now, if they also added a link to Internet Movie Database, that would be great, though a lot of that information is there already, just not as complete.

Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35220801)
To be fair though --- you haven't used it on tivo. The reviews I read about it didn't explain how well implemented and convenient it is.

If you are a person that does use Youtube for such things, I suspect that, when you come back over from the 'Dark Side' :D and get tivo, you will find yourself using it!

I have it on a Blu Ray player , but it doesn't really compare to the PC version.

passingbat 24-04-2011 13:58

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35220814)
I have it on a Blu Ray player , but it doesn't really compare to the PC version.

So do I and you're right in that respect, but it's the implementation on Tivo that makes it so good. It's a 'one click' to get youtube videos on a specific show, actor, director etc. that you're looking at in the Tivo menus.

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Originally Posted by whoareyou (Post 35220807)
I found the Tivo YT app dosent find the same results as the web page?

some of the content that is available on the web version isn't available on 'connected devices' such as Tivo or TVs and blueray players. I believe the content author can decide on where it's viewable.

But the Tivo serch results give you a good selection and good for a quick look before or after you watch the show you're browsing, or in deciding wheather it's worth a watch.

Manster62 24-04-2011 14:04

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Originally Posted by brava210 (Post 35220439)
What size screen do you have?

40" Samsung LCD - was getting a brilliant picture with the Samsung V+ :(

whoareyou 24-04-2011 14:08

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35220817)
some of the content that is available on the web version isn't available on 'connected devices' such as Tivo or TVs and blueray players. I believe the content author can decide on where it's viewable.

Interesting, thanks. Didnt know that

kered10 24-04-2011 14:08

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My TiVo is fairly often giving me difficulty with "HDMI connection not permitted", and I'm not sure whether there is a reliable method of getting round this, or whether I should even phone in as a fault.

I seem to remember someone posting that it could be to do with having HDMI and scart both connected? My TiVo is connected to my 18 month old Sony KDL40s5500 LCD by HDMI, and to my 7? year old Panasonic DMR-ES20 DVDR by scart.

Any suggestions?

Derek

passingbat 24-04-2011 14:24

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Originally Posted by kered10 (Post 35220828)
My TiVo is fairly often giving me difficulty with "HDMI connection not permitted", and I'm not sure whether there is a reliable method of getting round this, or whether I should even phone in as a fault.

I seem to remember someone posting that it could be to do with having HDMI and scart both connected? My TiVo is connected to my 18 month old Sony KDL40s5500 LCD by HDMI, and to my 7? year old Panasonic DMR-ES20 DVDR by scart.

Any suggestions?

Derek

it's a process of elimination.

I'd try just connecting the tivo with HDMI and no scart connection to see if it fixes it.

Try a different HDMI input on the TV

If not, try a different HDMI lead.

If that doesn't fix it and your TV worked with V+ via HDMI, I'd ring VM; it may be a faulty HDMI out on Tivo?

Stephen 24-04-2011 15:05

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Originally Posted by Mad Bee (Post 35220545)
Wanted to watch the snooker on the red button but all TiVo does is bring up the iPlayer.

Is there no BBC red button functionality then? Anyone know when it'll be available?

Not till lat in the year.

denphone 24-04-2011 15:07

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Lets hope so as that and reminders are two things that are missing at the moment.

mkdr25 24-04-2011 15:10

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any idea why my Tivo defaults to recording wishlist searches on Audio Description channels?

I have to manually trawl through a long list of Frasier's to change this.

Why should wishlists default to high channel numbers? surely it would make more sense to start searching from 101?

Stephen 24-04-2011 15:15

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35220854)
Lets hope so as that and reminders are two things that are missing at the moment.

TiVo has never had those features though, so really they aren't missing ;)

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Originally Posted by mkdr25 (Post 35220855)
any idea why my Tivo defaults to recording wishlist searches on Audio Description channels?

I have to manually trawl through a long list of Frasier's to change this.

Why should wishlists default to high channel numbers? surely it would make more sense to start searching from 101?

It shouldn't matter if it records those channels though as the audio description has to be selected. Otherwise you will just get standard audio.

denphone 24-04-2011 15:19

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35220859)
TiVo has never had those features though, so really they aren't missing ;)

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It shouldn't matter if it records those channels though as the audio description has to be selected. Otherwise you will just get standard audio.

But if Virgin listen to customers feedback which has already been stated on this forum that these two things need to added at some point in the future.

mkdr25 24-04-2011 15:20

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35220859)
TiVo has never had those features though, so really they aren't missing ;)

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It shouldn't matter if it records those channels though as the audio description has to be selected. Otherwise you will just get standard audio.

ah didnt know that. Will leave it as is then! Cheers

bbxxl 24-04-2011 15:28

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35220102)

Now that is exactly what I need.

Forums are great, but sometimes finding the information is difficult. Taking the time to summarise the information is appreciated.

Thank you :)

mkdr25 24-04-2011 15:30

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35220859)
TiVo has never had those features though, so really they aren't missing ;)

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It shouldn't matter if it records those channels though as the audio description has to be selected. Otherwise you will just get standard audio.

ah didnt know that. Will leave it as is then! Cheers

dazed&confused 25-04-2011 10:53

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It's gone very quiet on here....................
Is there anybody out there.....................
Hello, Hello..........................................

Ah must have installed all the Tivo's and everyone's playing
:D:D

Stephen 25-04-2011 11:07

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35220868)
But if Virgin listen to customers feedback which has already been stated on this forum that these two things need to added at some point in the future.

They don't NEED added, however VM and TiVo are working to add them.

My view is TiVo has been around for years and works brilliantly. V+ works great the way it does. So if you miss V+ features then go back to it. I love TiVo and the way it works. I don't miss the V+ at all, TiVo is a totally different product all together.

What's the point in getting a great service added to VM only for people to say they wish it was more like the old product?:rolleyes:

bbxxl 25-04-2011 11:21

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I haven't got my TiVo yet so am commenting as someone who has never tried it but surely the point is that people want the best of both? TiVo might be fantastic but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be better with features that are already in V+
people always miss the bits that they had but have lost regardless of how much better the new is.

HD addicted 25-04-2011 11:35

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Hi everyone,
Im sorry if what Im gonna ask has come up before, but as I cant actually afford the 1T Tivo, does anyone know when the 500Gb's coming out? It would be cheaper for me being a XL customer and I understand the only difference is in the HD capacity.
Thanks in advance.

muppetman11 25-04-2011 11:43

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Originally Posted by HD addicted (Post 35221378)
Hi everyone,
Im sorry if what Im gonna ask has come up before, but as I cant actually afford the 1T Tivo, does anyone know when the 500Gb's coming out? It would be cheaper for me being a XL customer and I understand the only difference is in the HD capacity.
Thanks in advance.

Sometime in May. I think i read the 28th but not 100% on that .

denphone 25-04-2011 11:46

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35221363)
They don't NEED added, however VM and TiVo are working to add them.

My view is TiVo has been around for years and works brilliantly. V+ works great the way it does. So if you miss V+ features then go back to it. I love TiVo and the way it works. I don't miss the V+ at all, TiVo is a totally different product all together.

What's the point in getting a great service added to VM only for people to say they wish it was more like the old product?:rolleyes:

Thank you for your opinion Stephen whilst agreeing with your tivo comments there were certains bits that were good on the v plus and customers liked these and thats why they want them added in some future update to tivo, a little bit of old and a little bit of new never did any harm but improve things.

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Originally Posted by dazed&confused (Post 35221350)
It's gone very quiet on here....................
Is there anybody out there.....................
Hello, Hello..........................................

Ah must have installed all the Tivo's and everyone's playing
:D:D

They are all keeping their powder dry before their next gripes.

richard1960 25-04-2011 11:47

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35221363)
They don't NEED added, however VM and TiVo are working to add them.

My view is TiVo has been around for years and works brilliantly. V+ works great the way it does. So if you miss V+ features then go back to it. I love TiVo and the way it works. I don't miss the V+ at all, TiVo is a totally different product all together.

What's the point in getting a great service added to VM only for people to say they wish it was more like the old product?:rolleyes:

Perhaps people like some of the features of the old product and wish to see them incorporated in the new one along with any new features.;)

denphone 25-04-2011 11:48

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35221382)
Sometime in May. I think i read the 28th but not 100% on that .

l will have to have one of them as well.

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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35221387)
Perhaps people like some of he features of the old product and wish to see them incorporated in the new one along with any new features.;)

l totally agree with you again.

devilincarnate 25-04-2011 11:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD addicted (Post 35221378)
Hi everyone,
Im sorry if what Im gonna ask has come up before, but as I cant actually afford the 1T Tivo, does anyone know when the 500Gb's coming out? It would be cheaper for me being a XL customer and I understand the only difference is in the HD capacity.
Thanks in advance.

Hi, the date that has been given for the launch of the 500gb box is the 16th May.

passingbat 25-04-2011 12:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35221363)
They don't NEED added, however VM and TiVo are working to add them.

My view is TiVo has been around for years and works brilliantly. V+ works great the way it does. So if you miss V+ features then go back to it. I love TiVo and the way it works. I don't miss the V+ at all, TiVo is a totally different product all together.

What's the point in getting a great service added to VM only for people to say they wish it was more like the old product?:rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35221383)
Thank you for your opinion Stephen whilst agreeing with your tivo comments there were certains bits that were good on the v plus and customers liked these and thats why they want them added in some future update to tivo, a little bit of old and a little bit of new never did any harm but improve things.

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Agree with Denphone on this.

Why does there have to be a V+ or Tivo choice for certain functionality?

Tivo/VM have added features to the US version specific for VM, so why couldn't they have added features from V+ that were superior to those onTivo, or missing from Tivo?

If Tivo hadn't been modified it in any way from the US version, then your 'choice' argument holds up; tivo or V+. But they did. And to say Tivo does everything better than V+ is looking at tivo with blinkered vision IMHO.

The best of Tivo US combined with the best of V+ was the way to go IMHO.

From my perspective, the one feture that V+ trounced Tivo on, is padding; Tivo really needs to adopt the V+ method.

Also picture quality, but that is probably a Cisco box issue.

denphone 25-04-2011 12:33

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35221425)
Agree with Denphone on this.

Why does there have to be a V+ or Tivo choice for certain functionality?

Tivo/VM have added features to the US version specific for VM, so why couldn't they have added features from V+ that were superior to those onTivo, or missing from Tivo?

If Tivo hadn't been modified it in any way from the US version, then your 'choice' argument holds up; tivo or V+. But they did. And to say Tivo does everything better than V+ is looking at tivo with blinkered vision IMHO.

The best of Tivo US combined with the best of V+ was the way to go IMHO.

From my perspective, the one feture that V+ trounced Tivo on, is padding; Tivo really needs to adopt the V+ method.

Also picture quality, but that is probably a Cisco box issue.

l am glad we agree on this as we have not aways agreed on everything before but this is why l enjoy this forum as everybody can have their views and opinions on things.

whoareyou 25-04-2011 12:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35221425)
Agree with Denphone on this.

Why does there have to be a V+ or Tivo choice for certain functionality?

Tivo/VM have added features to the US version specific for VM, so why couldn't they have added features from V+ that were superior to those onTivo, or missing from Tivo?

If Tivo hadn't been modified it in any way from the US version, then your 'choice' argument holds up; tivo or V+. But they did. And to say Tivo does everything better than V+ is looking at tivo with blinkered vision IMHO.

The best of Tivo US combined with the best of V+ was the way to go IMHO.

From my perspective, the one feture that V+ trounced Tivo on, is padding; Tivo really needs to adopt the V+ method.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35221363)
They don't NEED added, however VM and TiVo are working to add them.

My view is TiVo has been around for years and works brilliantly. V+ works great the way it does. So if you miss V+ features then go back to it. I love TiVo and the way it works. I don't miss the V+ at all, TiVo is a totally different product all together.

What's the point in getting a great service added to VM only for people to say they wish it was more like the old product?:rolleyes:


Yep agree totally too. Cant see the need for V+ features to be removed from the Tivo. It dosent make it a worse product to carry the V+ advantages.
As repeated many time already, if their on Tivo use them or dont. If their not on their you dont have an option.....

People wish its was more like the old product because it carried very good features. The Tivo carries MANY advantages and features the V+ dosent, so to say if you miss V+ features then go back to it isnt really an option.

Its great to see a company acknowledging which it obviously now sees as a mistake.
Once they reinstate 'reminders' it wont change anyones Tivo for the worse but will enchance others.......Everyones happy :D

denphone 25-04-2011 12:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by whoareyou (Post 35221432)
Yep agree totally too. Cant see the need for V+ features to be removed from the Tivo. It dosent make it a worse product to carry the V+ advantages.
As repeated many time already, if their on Tivo use them or dont. If their not on their you dont have an option.....

People wish its was more like the old product because it carried very good features. The Tivo carries MANY advantages and features the V+ dosent, so to say if you miss V+ features then go back to it isnt really an option.

Its great to see a company acknowledging which it obviously now sees as a mistake.
Once they reinstate 'reminders' it wont change anyones Tivo for the worse but will enchance others.......Everyones happy :D

Could not agree more.

Stephen 25-04-2011 12:44

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So VM bring out a great new product only for some customers to wish it was more like the old one lol.

Progress eh!

denphone 25-04-2011 12:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35221440)
So VM bring out a great new product only for some customers to wish it was more like the old one lol.

Progress eh!

You are missing the point totally on this

whoareyou 25-04-2011 12:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35221440)
So VM bring out a great new product only for some customers to wish it was more like the old one lol.

Progress eh!

Its not more like the old one, a brand new product which carries the advantages of the old, like any normal company does! :rolleyes:

dazed&confused 25-04-2011 13:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35221440)
So VM bring out a great new product only for some customers to wish it was more like the old one lol.

Progress eh!

Can we have a tape drive added for TIVo 2

I miss playing my reel to reel tapes
:D:D:D

passingbat 25-04-2011 13:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35221440)
So VM bring out a great new product only for some customers to wish it was more like the old one lol.

Progress eh!

Who has said more like?

You're not reading the posts correctly.

People are questioning why a small number features that V+ had or did better than Tivo, weren't added to the Tivo, when Tivo was being modified from the US version anyway?

Everyone has acknowledged that Tivo has far more functionality than V+ and is a far better better product in comparison to V+.

I'm confused by your apparant lack of objectivity in this issue.

muppetman11 25-04-2011 13:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35221465)
Who has said more like?

You're not reading the posts correctly.

People are questioning why a small number features that V+ had or did better than Tivo, weren't added to the Tivo, when Tivo was being modified from the US version anyway?

Everyone has acknowledged that Tivo has far more functionality than V+ and is a far better better product in comparison to V+.

I'm confused by your apparant lack of objectivity in this issue.

Agree fully and a very constructive post , TIVO is more advanced than the V+ fact , however it's wrong to say an older box cant have features that were better or more user friendly.

denphone 25-04-2011 13:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35221465)
Who has said more like?

You're not reading the posts correctly.

People are questioning why a small number features that V+ had or did better than Tivo, weren't added to the Tivo, when Tivo was being modified from the US version anyway?

Everyone has acknowledged that Tivo has far more functionality than V+ and is a far better better product in comparison to V+.

I'm confused by your apparant lack of objectivity in this issue.

Thats my view as well.

HDFootyMan 25-04-2011 13:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35221440)
So VM bring out a great new product only for some customers to wish it was more like the old one lol.

Progress eh!

There's no doubt that TiVo has a whole load of extra features over V+ HD. But there's also no doubt that there's a few features which were in V+ HD which a) people used and b) aren't in TiVo.

True progress is adding to the existing feature set. Not taking them away. The reminders thread (and the about-turn VM/TiVo have done on that) is indication of existing functionality which customers used on V+ HD, and still want to use on TiVo.

Ditto numerous picture quality threads on this and other forums. It should be:

TiVo SD Picture Quality >= V HD+

and not:

TiVo SD Picture Quality <= V HD+

How is that progress regarding picture quality for SD, eh!?

denphone 25-04-2011 13:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35221477)
There's no doubt that TiVo has a whole load of extra features over V+ HD. But there's also no doubt that there's a few features which were in V+ HD which a) people used and b) aren't in TiVo.

True progress is adding to the existing feature set. Not taking them away.

l find myself agreeing with many forum members on this.

Stuart 25-04-2011 13:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35216616)
Reminders are totally not needed at all anymore. They are an old and redundant feature from the days before people had PVRs.

Before the V+ was around reminders were the only way to ensure you didn't miss a programme. Now we have multiple tuners and a large hard drive they really aren't needed. Also if its a show or event that you really want to see you shouldn't be forgetting about it just before it starts ;)

Wrong. What if you want to watch something, and the hdd is full? Yes, 1TB is a lot of storage, but record a few films and a couple of series in HD and that 1TB will soon vanish.

Especially when you consider Tivo doesn't support archiving to another medium in the background, which means you need to find several hours when the box isn't being used to archive that stuff.

Quote:

If you desperately need a reminder that the news is on at 6 then there is something wrong :P its on that time everyday lol. However you could always set an alarm or calender reminder on your mobile phone?
So, you are suggesting using an alternate device (and considerably more button presses) to replace functionality people apparently found useful and that VM could implement in a few lines of code? And that's not a step backwards in usability?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35221440)
So VM bring out a great new product only for some customers to wish it was more like the old one lol.

Progress eh!

Not really. You don't remove features to improve something (unless they really don't work, but clearly reminders did), you attempt to add to those features.

muppetman11 25-04-2011 13:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35221480)
Wrong. What if you want to watch something, and the hdd is full? Yes, 1TB is a lot of storage, but record a few films and a couple of series in HD and that 1TB will soon vanish.

Especially when you consider Tivo doesn't support archiving to another medium in the background, which means you need to find several hours when the box isn't being used to archive that stuff.



So, you are suggesting using an alternate device (and considerably more button presses) to replace functionality people apparently found useful and that VM could implement in a few lines of code? And that's not a step backwards in usability?

100% spot on Stuart a certain UK pay TV uses a green button remind me service frequently as do many other PVR services around the world , so it's hardly a dying function.

HDFootyMan 25-04-2011 13:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35221480)
So, you are suggesting using an alternate device (and considerably more button presses) to replace functionality people apparently found useful and that VM could implement in a few lines of code? And that's not a step backwards in usability?

Someone over at TCF even suggested using reminders on my mobile phone as an alternative to no-reminders on TiVo.

Seriously.

Progress, eh!

denphone 25-04-2011 13:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35221480)
Wrong. What if you want to watch something, and the hdd is full? Yes, 1TB is a lot of storage, but record a few films and a couple of series in HD and that 1TB will soon vanish.

Especially when you consider Tivo doesn't support archiving to another medium in the background, which means you need to find several hours when the box isn't being used to archive that stuff.

its not often l agree with you but l totally agree with you on this one
So, you are suggesting using an alternate device (and considerably more button presses) to replace functionality people apparently found useful and that VM could implement in a few lines of code? And that's not a step backwards in usability?

---------- Post added at 12:44 ---------- Previous post was at 12:40 ----------



Not really. You don't remove features to improve something (unless they really don't work, but clearly reminders did), you attempt to add to those features.


bbxxl 25-04-2011 13:51

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I'm sure some people really want reminders and maybe they will be added in future, but surely the point of a PVR is that you just record it and watch it when you want?
Justly opinion, I'm sure others will disagree but I think the TiVo will do me fine :)

denphone 25-04-2011 13:51

Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35221480)
Wrong. What if you want to watch something, and the hdd is full? Yes, 1TB is a lot of storage, but record a few films and a couple of series in HD and that 1TB will soon vanish.

Especially when you consider Tivo doesn't support archiving to another medium in the background, which means you need to find several hours when the box isn't being used to archive that stuff.



So, you are suggesting using an alternate device (and considerably more button presses) to replace functionality people apparently found useful and that VM could implement in a few lines of code? And that's not a step backwards in usability?

---------- Post added at 12:44 ---------- Previous post was at 12:40 ----------



Not really. You don't remove features to improve something (unless they really don't work, but clearly reminders did), you attempt to add to those features.

its not often l agree with you but on this we totally agree.

passingbat 25-04-2011 14:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bbxxl (Post 35221493)
I'm sure some people really want reminders and maybe they will be added in future, but surely the point of a PVR is that you just record it and watch it when you want?
Justly opinion, I'm sure others will disagree but I think the TiVo will do me fine :)

I fully agree with you on that one, but some people like reminder functionality.

But there's a principle going on here. There are some things V+ did better than Tivo and we're being told by Stephen we should ignore them and not complain about the lack of them; how dare we challenge, 'The mighty Tivo'?

But as Tivo was modified from the US version, there was the opportunity to add some V+ functionality. For some the missing/better functionality is reminders. for me it's padding.

Stuart 25-04-2011 14:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bbxxl (Post 35221493)
I'm sure some people really want reminders and maybe they will be added in future, but surely the point of a PVR is that you just record it and watch it when you want?
Justly opinion, I'm sure others will disagree but I think the TiVo will do me fine :)

It is, but for various reasons, that's not always practical.

Tod 25-04-2011 14:19

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I think I used the reminder function once on my old V+ box. Anything I want to watch to the degree I would set a reminder would be set up to record anyhow.

HDFootyMan 25-04-2011 14:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35221505)
I fully agree with you on that one, but some people like reminder functionality.

But there's a principle going on here. There are some things V+ did better than Tivo and we're being told by Stephen we should ignore them and not complain about the lack of them; how dare we challenge, 'The mighty Tivo'?

You've nailed it.
  • Reminders? Don't be silly, you don't and never have needed them! I've never used them so you don't have to either, OK? Besides, its TiVo!
  • Picture quality? Ptfff. Its TiVo, silly!
  • Padding? Seriously? C'mon! Its TiVo!
  • Jesus, don't tell me you have to know if you've watched a recording? :rolleyes: Gawd, are you stupid or something....you don't deserve TiVo if you need that.
;)

muppetman11 25-04-2011 14:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35221517)
You've nailed it.
  • Reminders? Don't be silly, you don't and never have needed them! I've never used them so you don't have to either, OK? Besides, its TiVo!
  • Picture quality? Ptfff. Its TiVo, silly!
  • Padding? Seriously? C'mon! Its TiVo!
  • Jesus, don't tell me you have to know if you've watched a recording? :rolleyes: Gawd, are you stupid or something....you don't deserve TiVo if you need that.
;)

Knowing whether you've watched something or not is needed , I've not got TIVO but on the two PVR's ive used V+ and Sky+HD this is available.

albertsteptoe 25-04-2011 14:31

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hello All, just a quick question please, had tivo installed on Thursday & i have noticed the last day or 2 that the tivo remote dosnt always make the bloop bloop sound when im useing it, is anyone else haveing this issue, also just had my box freeze for first time 5 minutes ago, anyone else had this yet since new install.

Lew 25-04-2011 14:40

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It won't make the sounds if you're watching an HD channel as they use Dolby Digital for the audio. If you go into the audio settings and change it to "Dolby Digital to PCM" it will make the sounds and will also make the HD channels have the same audio volume as the SD channels.

denphone 25-04-2011 14:51

Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 2
 
One question is if l have another tivo do l have to pay another 3 pounds.

passingbat 25-04-2011 15:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35221555)
One question is if l have another tivo do l have to pay another 3 pounds.

No, Charge is per account, not per box.

denphone 25-04-2011 15:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35221573)
No, Charge is per account, not per box.

Thats great news now lets see how much savings l got left to purchase another box.

carlwaring 25-04-2011 15:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35221505)
There are some things V+ did better than Tivo..

Other than reminders, I can't think of one other thing that the V+ did better than Tivo :confused:
Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35221517)
Picture quality? Ptfff. Its TiVo, silly!

Subjective. Some say it's better; some say it's not.
Quote:

Padding? Seriously? C'mon! Its TiVo!
Global padding may be nice but its not absolutely required.
Quote:

Jesus, don't tell me you have to know if you've watched a recording? :rolleyes: Gawd, are you stupid or something....you don't deserve TiVo if you need that.;)
Exactly :D

denphone 25-04-2011 15:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221606)
Other than reminders, I can't think of one other thing that the V+ did better than Tivo :confused:#

Subjective. Some say it's better; some say it's not.

Global padding may be nice but its not absolutely required.

Exactly :D

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion but l think you will find most people on this forum disagree with you on this one.

carlwaring 25-04-2011 15:39

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Which is, of course, absolutely fine. They'll just have to put up with being wrong :p:

denphone 25-04-2011 15:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221619)
Which is, of course, absolutely fine. They'll just have to put up with being wrong :p:

This forum would not be the same without you.

devilincarnate 25-04-2011 15:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35221626)
This forum would not be the same without you.

I will tell you it would be boring without anyone:erm:

albertsteptoe 25-04-2011 15:52

Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35221542)
It won't make the sounds if you're watching an HD channel as they use Dolby Digital for the audio. If you go into the audio settings and change it to "Dolby Digital to PCM" it will make the sounds and will also make the HD channels have the same audio volume as the SD channels.

Thanks a lot for that Lew.:)

passingbat 25-04-2011 15:54

Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221606)
Other than reminders, I can't think of one other thing that the V+ did better than Tivo :confused:

Subjective. Some say it's better; some say it's not.

Global padding may be nice but its not absolutely required.

Exactly :D

For me, the only real thing is the way V+ handled padding (PQ is probably a Cisco box issue).

V+ dropped padding when two shows on different channels recorded back to back on the same tuner.

Tivo doesn't do that. it records the end padding on the highest priority show and you miss the first part of the lower priority show following.

I used to set a standard 5 minutes before and after on V+ which covered pretty much all over runs. I could do this because V+ would drop padding for the scenario described above.

With Tivo, I would loose 5 minutes of the second show. Given this situation, I can see why Tivo doesn't have a global setting for padding, as you really need to set pading depending on what other shows are being recorded around the same time and which tuners will be available.

If Tivo handled padding like the V+, then a global padding option, like that on the V+ could be applied with no resulting problems.

Tod 25-04-2011 15:55

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Would be pretty dull if everyone said "yeah yeah you're right" ;)

HDFootyMan 25-04-2011 16:07

Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 2
 
Just had my 1st reboot! :erm:

I was adding 1080i to the list of supported video formats, suddenly I was watching 0i because the box rebooted.

But, it works well - when I switch to a HD channel, the TV switches to 1080i, and when I switch to a SD channel, the TV switches to 720p.

carlwaring 25-04-2011 16:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35221626)
This forum would not be the same without you.

You do know that was sarcasm, right? :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35221643)
For me, the only real thing is the way V+ handled padding (PQ is probably a Cisco box issue).

V+ dropped padding when two shows on different channels recorded back to back on the same tuner.

Tivo doesn't do that. it records the end padding on the highest priority show and you miss the first part of the lower priority show following.

I take your point, but with three tuners, and multiple showings of most programmes these days, that is highly unlikely to ever actually happen :)

passingbat 25-04-2011 16:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35221656)
Just had my 1st reboot! :erm:

I was adding 1080i to the list of supported video formats, suddenly I was watching 0i because the box rebooted.

But, it works well - when I switch to a HD channel, the TV switches to 1080i, and when I switch to a SD channel, the TV switches to 720p.

What is the native resolution of your TV?

denphone 25-04-2011 16:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221657)
You do know that was sarcasm, right? :)

I take your point, but with three tuners, and multiple showings of most programmes these days, that is highly unlikely to ever actually happen :)

As a uneducated forum member l am not sure what you mean by sarcasm.

carlwaring 25-04-2011 16:16

Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 2
 
Not fair. You didn't add a smiley. Now I don't know if you're serious or not :p:

passingbat 25-04-2011 16:17

Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221657)

I take your point, but with three tuners, and multiple showings of most programmes these days, that is highly unlikely to ever actually happen :)

If Tivo handled padding the way V+ did, it would never happen.

'Never' works better for me than 'unlikely' :)

denphone 25-04-2011 16:19

Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35221665)
Not fair. You didn't add a smiley. Now I don't know if you're serious or not :p:

l never add a smiley but did you know that some forum members and those closest to me call me Victor after a famous tv character.

devilincarnate 25-04-2011 16:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35221663)
As a uneducated forum member l am not sure what you mean by sarcasm.

Try this?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/04/21.jpg


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