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Hugh 01-04-2011 14:31
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
den, wouldn't it be quicker for you just to cut and paste your previous posts.......;)

(or put "please refer to most of my recent posts" - we would get the message :D)

mersey70 01-04-2011 14:34
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35203955)
The only thing Coming soon is our price rises and more vague dates and false promises if you look at their track record in the last nine months.
Actually the price rises start today so no longer coming soon! I seem to recall staff on here saying if you want more content in XL you have to pay for it, I couldn't agree more.

So where is it then?

muppetman11 01-04-2011 14:38
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35203956)
den, wouldn't it be quicker for you just to cut and paste your previous posts.......;)

(or put "please refer to most of my recent posts" - we would get the message :D)
But then he wouldn't be able to take his anger out on the keyboard LOL :D

Hugh 01-04-2011 14:58
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35203959)
But then he wouldn't be able to take his anger out on the keyboard LOL :D
As the kidz say - trudat! ;)

Arthurgray50@blu 01-04-2011 15:00
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
This exactly what l was saying, they are taking off channels and replacing them without even a thought for the customers. Typical VM

I heard a rumour this morning that vm were getting as many channels as possible to take on Sky's large customer base, and poach customers from Sky with special deals.

gadge 01-04-2011 15:02
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35203967)
This exactly what l was saying, they are taking off channels and replacing them without even a thought for the customers. Typical VM

I heard a rumour this morning that vm were getting as many channels as possible to take on Sky's large customer base, and poach customers from Sky with special deals.
You never know with virgin.:D

mersey70 01-04-2011 15:03
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35203967)
This exactly what l was saying, they are taking off channels and replacing them without even a thought for the customers. Typical VM

I heard a rumour this morning that vm were getting as many channels as possible to take on Sky's large customer base, and poach customers from Sky with special deals.
April Fools ended at 12pm

Hugh 01-04-2011 15:07
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35203967)
This exactly what l was saying, they are taking off channels and replacing them without even a thought for the customers. Typical VM

I heard a rumour this morning that vm were getting as many channels as possible to take on Sky's large customer base, and poach customers from Sky with special deals.
And of course, Arthur, Sky would never do that, would they?

Unless you count Virgin 1/Channel One, Bravo, Sky Real Lives.....;)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35203971)
April Fools ended at 12pm
For Arthur, every day is April 1st....:D

mersey70 01-04-2011 15:10
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35203972)
And of course, Arthur, Sky would never do that, would they?

Unless you count Virgin 1/Channel One, Bravo, Sky Real Lives.....;)

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For Arthur, every day is April 1st....:D
Perhaps he was referring to MTV and CSC closing services just on VM only to replace them with other services when the channels in question continue to be available on other platforms, same with Zing. A channel added, a channel lost when it continues to be available elsewhere. VM did add a radio station though!

As for the other channels they did indeed close, however Sky did launch Sky Atlantic instead which no doubt has a far bigger budget than all of those lacklustre channels combined.

Hugh 01-04-2011 15:17
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
And lower viewing figures.....:D

muppetman11 01-04-2011 15:19
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35203976)
And lower viewing figures.....:D
To be fair though it is only available on Sky.

Stuart Murphy, Sky's director of programmes for Sky1 and Sky Atlantic, wrote a blog post last week highlighting the growing importance of "consolidated" viewing figures.

Murphy pointed to the series premiere of new drama Mad Dogs, which gained 817,000 viewers on Sky1, but that increased to around 2.2m over the seven-day period after transmission.

"At Sky, we've long since dispensed with the overnights as a measure of how well we're meeting the demand of our viewers, although for some in the free-to-air world or some commentators it remains a preoccupation," said Murphy.

"Our view is that we've given our customers the opportunity to define their own schedules, and we therefore need to have measurement models which properly reflect the changing behaviours of our customers. We don't want to be in a position where viewers are one step ahead of the rest of us."

Hugh 01-04-2011 15:23
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35203978)
To be fair though it is only available on Sky.
And whose decision was that? ;)

mersey70 01-04-2011 15:26
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35203976)
And lower viewing figures.....:D

Probably but anything of value has been slapped on Sky's other pay channels.

Having Atlantic is arguably better than just losing channels though.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35203980)
And whose decision was that? ;)
Ultimately Sky's but because VM have put themslves in a corner over pricing they simply cannot afford to offer channels like Atlantic.

It isn't my cup of tea but it's clearly a very high quality channel and way out of VM's league.

muppetman11 01-04-2011 15:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35203980)
And whose decision was that? ;)
We will neverknow that , Sky claim it was offered to VM.

Hugh 01-04-2011 15:27
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
And most viewers......

mersey70 01-04-2011 15:31
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35203984)
And most viewers......
Don't worry about it, I doubt Sky are.

Atlantic is merely part of their overall HD offer which at over 3m paying punters and rising dosen't seem to be doing too badly.

VM are taking a punt with techie hardware and Sky will continue to punt with content, the public will decide what they want.

richard1960 01-04-2011 15:31
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35203981)
Probably but anything of value has been slapped on Sky's other pay channels.

Having Atlantic is arguably better than just losing channels though.

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Ultimately Sky's but because VM have put themslves in a corner over pricing so they just cannot afford to offer channels like Atlantic.

It isn't my cup of tea but it's clearly a very high quality channel and way out of VM's league.
Does skys deal with HBO i wonder cover streaming content? I ask this as the TiVo as is well known has a 10Mb internet connection if as is rumoured vm tie up with say lovefilm for streaming content, all the stuff on sky atlantic is mostly available on lovefilm to buy and stream online already.

mersey70 01-04-2011 15:35
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35203990)
Does skys deal with HBO i wonder cover streaming content? I ask this as the TiVo as is well known has a 10Mb internet connection if as is rumoured vm tie up with say lovefilm for streaming content, all the stuff on sky atlantic is mostly available on lovefilm to buy and stream online already.
BT Vision have HBO streaming content too.

VM losing it was nothing to do with Sky so I would guess other vendors can provide it.

muppetman11 01-04-2011 15:37
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35203980)
And whose decision was that? ;)
To be fair Hugh I can see both sides , while Sky would clearly keep it exclusive for now , I do also believe VM want it on the cheap which is not going to happen , Sky have pumped a lot of money into it. VM don't seem able to negotiate smaller lower budget HD channels so who knows.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35203990)
Does skys deal with HBO i wonder cover streaming content? I ask this as the TiVo as is well known has a 10Mb internet connection if as is rumoured vm tie up with say lovefilm for streaming content, all the stuff on sky atlantic is mostly available on lovefilm to buy and stream online already.
Lovefilm only currently stream Movies I think and the majority of them are older ones.

clinteastman 01-04-2011 15:37
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35203978)
To be fair though it is only available on Sky.

Stuart Murphy, Sky's director of programmes for Sky1 and Sky Atlantic, wrote a blog post last week highlighting the growing importance of "consolidated" viewing figures.

Murphy pointed to the series premiere of new drama Mad Dogs, which gained 817,000 viewers on Sky1, but that increased to around 2.2m over the seven-day period after transmission.

"At Sky, we've long since dispensed with the overnights as a measure of how well we're meeting the demand of our viewers, although for some in the free-to-air world or some commentators it remains a preoccupation," said Murphy.

"Our view is that we've given our customers the opportunity to define their own schedules, and we therefore need to have measurement models which properly reflect the changing behaviours of our customers. We don't want to be in a position where viewers are one step ahead of the rest of us."
E.G. Are numbers are bad so we changed the rules, and then told you the numbers for a Sky 1 program (that they use to advertise their TV services even though it's no longer on).

richard1960 01-04-2011 15:38
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35203994)
BT Vision have HBO streaming content.
Did BTs deal not run out after the vm one sorry i do not know? if that is the case BT might not have HBO content much longer.

But my main point was vm do not have sky atlantic but they could possibly get access to that content via streaming via lovefilm over the TiVo internet connection,which would mean there would be no need to carry sky atlantic at all on cable to get the content.

muppetman11 01-04-2011 15:39
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35203997)
E.G. Are numbers are bad so we changed the rules, and then told you the numbers for a Sky 1 program (that they use to advertise their TV services even though it's no longer on).
To be fair content is on numerous days , downloaded to your box via Anytime accessed via Sky player and Sky Anytime+

mersey70 01-04-2011 15:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35203998)
Did BTs deal not run out after the vm one sorry i do not know? if that is the case BT might not have HBO content much longer.

But my main point was vm do not have sky atlantic but they could possibly get access to that content via streaming via lovefilm over the TiVo internet connection,which would mean there would be no need to carry sky atlantic at all on cable.
No it didn't, people were speculating VM lost their HBO content because of Sky snapping up the rights but this dosen't appear to be correct.

BT have a long term deal with HBO, it certainly runs at least until next year when Boardwalk Empire will be shown.

LoveFilm or the likes may well appear on Tivo but they already have FilmFlex so no doubt all manner of rights negotiations would have to take place.

Personally I suspect FilmFlex will be VM's sole PPV film provider for the foreseeable future.

richard1960 01-04-2011 15:55
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35204000)
No it didn't, people were speculating VM lost their HBO content because of Sky snapping up the rights but this dosen't appear to be correct.

BT have a long term deal with HBO, it certainly runs at least until next year when Boardwalk Empire will be shown.

LoveFilm or the likes may well appear on Tivo but they already have FilmFlex so no doubt all manner of rights negotiations would have to take place.

Personally I suspect FilmFlex will be VM's sole PPV film provider for the foreseeable future.
It will be interesting to see if next year when BTs long term HBO deal runs out they can/will renew it or wether the sky deal precludes them from doing so.

Could VM not have both lovefilm and Filmflex running in tandem then customers could decide who to take content from for films?, for mini series and comedies ie curb your enthusiam ,boradwalk empire filmflex would not be showing these anyway so i guess its possible both could have a place on vm.

But as you say deals have to be done but for all we know vm could already be talking to lovefilm about content without advertising the fact, if thats the case its "coming soon":D:D;)

clinteastman 01-04-2011 16:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35203999)
To be fair content is on numerous days , downloaded to your box via Anytime accessed via Sky player and Sky Anytime+
Fair comment.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35204000)
No it didn't, people were speculating VM lost their HBO content because of Sky snapping up the rights but this dosen't appear to be correct.

BT have a long term deal with HBO, it certainly runs at least until next year when Boardwalk Empire will be shown.

LoveFilm or the likes may well appear on Tivo but they already have FilmFlex so no doubt all manner of rights negotiations would have to take place.

Personally I suspect FilmFlex will be VM's sole PPV film provider for the foreseeable future.
Cindy has said that they are looking at adding services like Lovefilm and that having Filmflex wouldn't stop that. My guess is Amazon (Lovefilm) would love to get on there, or Google (they have a film/music streaming service coming in the UK).

denphone 01-04-2011 16:08
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35203956)
den, wouldn't it be quicker for you just to cut and paste your previous posts.......;)

(or put "please refer to most of my recent posts" - we would get the message :D)
You do make me chuckle Hugh

mersey70 01-04-2011 16:09
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35204003)
It will be interesting to see if next year when BTs long term HBO deal runs out they can/will renew it or wether the sky deal precludes them from doing so.

Could VM not have both lovefilm and Filmflex running in tandem then customers could decide who to take content from for films?, for mini series and comedies ie curb your enthusiam ,boradwalk empire filmflex would not be showing these anyway so i guess its possible both could have a place on vm.

But as you say deals have to be done but for all we know vm could already be talking to lovefilm about content without advertising the fact, if thats the case its "coming soon":D:D;)
I doubt it would work having two vendors offering the same PPV content but you never know. As I understand it Sky's exclusive HBO deal is for broadcast TV rights not OD.

Maybe VM are in talks with LoveFilm so I am more than happy to go along with your 'coming soon' in the absence of anything else!

dazed&confused 01-04-2011 16:30
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Press Release
Asian Mela launching today 11 TV channels
plus Sunrise Radio
Oh Ye of little faith

Hugh 01-04-2011 16:40
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35204013)
You do make me chuckle Hugh
Excellent - my time here has been of value.

Please feel free to reciprocate (chuckle/chortle/general merriment-wise).

richard1960 01-04-2011 16:57
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dazed&confused (Post 35204018)
Press Release
Asian Mela launching today 11 TV channels
plus Sunrise Radio
Oh Ye of little faith
:cleader::cleader::cleader::beer::beer:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35203995)
To be fair Hugh I can see both sides , while Sky would clearly keep it exclusive for now , I do also believe VM want it on the cheap which is not going to happen , Sky have pumped a lot of money into it. VM don't seem able to negotiate smaller lower budget HD channels so who knows.

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Lovefilm only currently stream Movies I think and the majority of them are older ones.
Thanks for that now that lovefilm are owned by amazon they might well look to expand into other streaming areas given amazons powerful financial muscle especially if it would give them access to vms customer base.:)

howardmicks 01-04-2011 16:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35203955)
The only thing Coming soon is our price rises and more vague dates and false promises if you look at their track record in the last nine months.
Tad a agree with you there,Looks like us the customers are the fools this april fools day.Price increase and no new channels (especially HD) to show for it.Gutted
But im still happy with me tivo

More channels please VM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

richard1960 01-04-2011 17:03
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35204030)
Tad a agree with you there,Looks like us the customers are the fools this april fools day.Price increase and no new channels (especially HD) to show for it

Press Release
Asian Mela launching today 11 TV channels
plus Sunrise Radio

Trouble is they are i think part of a sperate sub package.

howardmicks 01-04-2011 17:05
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35204031)
Press Release
Asian Mela launching today 11 TV channels
plus Sunrise Radio

Launched today apparently.;)
Great that`s what the increase was for,Are they in HD :)

richard1960 01-04-2011 17:12
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35204034)
Great that`s what the increase was for,Are they in HD :)
Yes apparently HD=highly desireable.:D

About the only thing that is known to be coming for sure is sky sports Red Button anything else is unknown at present,although i do not doubt vm will be launching some channels this year just not yet .:)

mersey70 01-04-2011 17:14
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35204034)
Great that`s what the increase was for,Are they in HD :)
Zing is in HD

muppetman11 01-04-2011 17:31
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35204039)
Zing is in HD
But that's being removed isn't it LOL :D

mersey70 01-04-2011 17:34
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204050)
But that's being removed isn't it LOL :D
I got confused, of course it has been removed as that's what happens lately when another new channel joins.

denphone 01-04-2011 17:55
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35204052)
I got confused, of course it has been removed as that's what happens lately when another new channel joins.
Ah typical Virgin.

howardmicks 01-04-2011 17:58
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35204037)
Yes apparently HD=highly desireable.:D

About the only thing that is known to be coming for sure is sky sports Red Button anything else is unknown at present,although i do not doubt vm will be launching some channels this year just not yet .:)
yer there coming soon lol

denphone 01-04-2011 18:08
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35204068)
yer there coming soon lol
We are told the red button is coming but knowing Virgin l expect it to be a third rate version that we are going to get

jonandmarkuk 01-04-2011 20:20
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Disappointed that no mainstream channels have been added.
I'm not interested in additional channels that are not part of the XL pack..
Virgin do need to realise that it's no point having a Tivo box if we don't have a decent range of channels to record from :(

I love my Tivo, but would love some extra HD channels. Universal HD, Other ITV channels spring to mind. Though I suspect eventually we may get SkyArts HD or some other random channel that people won't really watch.

passingbat 01-04-2011 20:32
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonandmarkuk (Post 35204199)
Virgin do need to realise that it's no point having a Tivo box if we don't have a decent range of channels to record from :(
.
The way some people speak, you'd think VM only had about 10 channels!

I'll have no problem filling a good deal of my 1TB hard disc with the channels VM already have. That doesn't mean I don't want more channels, but to say there is no point to Tivo with the number of channels VM currently have, seems crazy to me.

Henkesghost 01-04-2011 21:10
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35204209)
The way some people speak, you'd think VM only had about 10 channels!

I'll have no problem filling a good deal of my 1TB hard disc with the channels VM already have. That doesn't mean I don't want more channels, but to say there is no point to Tivo with the number of channels VM currently have, seems crazy to me.
Jesus wept!!:rolleyes:

andrewstevenson 01-04-2011 21:12
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboothers (Post 35203710)
Virgin Media allowed Sky Sports HD 3 + 4.

Spoiler: 
april fools :p:
Hi mate can you support this with a link to where you got info

howardmicks 01-04-2011 21:14
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35204209)
The way some people speak, you'd think VM only had about 10 channels!

I'll have no problem filling a good deal of my 1TB hard disc with the channels VM already have. That doesn't mean I don't want more channels, but to say there is no point to Tivo with the number of channels VM currently have, seems crazy to me.
soz mate totally disagree if you are getting movies and sports in HD you are already paying £7.00 extra for HD and if you get tivo there is another £3.00 charge making it £10.00 for a extra 25p you get over 50 HD channels,You could argue that you after pay another £9.00 for ESPN and its free with vm on xl.But lets face it this season if you are a premership fan you are only getting a quarter of the matches.VM finally admitted HD Channels was the future and that was only after constant badgering from customers and people leaving for sky,In there last quarter results the tv showed a massive increase.That was due to the excellent work that vm did in getting a large amount of HD Channels and even admitted that themselves and promised more,For the past nine months all we have seen is channels close and channels to be taken off just to be replaced by others.Constant promises and coming soons is now starting to wear thin and now with this great product (tivo) its needs support from new channels especially HD,If you read recent reviews it makes reference to how many less HD channels vm have compared to sky.
I am very lucky to have both due to the fact i got a great half price deal off sky and won a tivo in the draw,Personally i would rather give all my hard earned money to vm.But i love my tv and whilst vm now have a great promising product with tv,Got to admit from a tv addicts point of view sky beat them hands down.
No more coming soons vm,Listen to your customers we want more channels.All we seem to be getting is price increases at a time when money is tight and now with the cost of tivo people need justification to go out and part with more.

muppetman11 01-04-2011 21:18
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35204233)
soz mate totally disagree if you are getting movies and sports in HD you are already paying £7.00 extra for HD and if you get tivo there is another £3.00 charge making it £10.00 for a extra 25p you get over 50 HD channels,You could argue that you after pay another £9.00 for ESPN and its free with vm on xl.But lets face it this season if you are a premership fan you are only getting a quarter of the matches.VM finally admitted HD Channels was the future and that was only after constant badgering from customers and people leaving for sky,In there last quarter results the tv showed a massive increase.That was due to the excellent work that vm did in getting a large amount of HD Channels and even admitted that themselves and promised more,For the past nine months all we have seen is channels close and channels to be taken off just to be replaced by others.Constant promises and coming soons is now starting to wear thin and now wit this great product (tivo) its needs support from new channels especially HD,If you read recent reviews it makes reference to how many less HD channels vm have compared to sky.
Don't apologise mate your correct and entitled to your say. That's a valid point TIVO 3.00 and Sky premium 7.00 , also don't forget Sky sports is 20.25 as opposed to 22.50 on VM but as you say ESPN is 9.00 on Sky.

Henkesghost 01-04-2011 21:20
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35204233)
soz mate totally disagree if you are getting movies and sports in HD you are already paying £7.00 extra for HD and if you get tivo there is another £3.00 charge making it £10.00 for a extra 25p you get over 50 HD channels,You could argue that you after pay another £9.00 for ESPN and its free with vm on xl.But lets face it this season if you are a premership fan you are only getting a quarter of the matches.VM finally admitted HD Channels was the future and that was only after constant badgering from customers and people leaving for sky,In there last quarter results the tv showed a massive increase.That was due to the excellent work that vm did in getting a large amount of HD Channels and even admitted that themselves and promised more,For the past nine months all we have seen is channels close and channels to be taken off just to be replaced by others.Constant promises and coming soons is now starting to wear thin and now wit this great product (tivo) its needs support from new channels especially HD,If you read recent reviews it makes reference to how many less HD channels vm have compared to sky.

Superb post!

passingbat 01-04-2011 21:24
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35204228)
Jesus wept!!:rolleyes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35204233)
soz mate totally disagree if you are getting movies and sports in HD you are already paying £7.00 extra for HD and if you get tivo there is another £3.00 charge making it £10.00 for a extra 25p you get over 50 HD channels,You could argue that you after pay another £9.00 for ESPN and its free with vm on xl.But lets face it this season if you are a premership fan you are only getting a quarter of the matches.VM finally admitted HD Channels was the future and that was only after constant badgering from customers and people leaving for sky,In there last quarter results the tv showed a massive increase.That was due to the excellent work that vm did in getting a large amount of HD Channels and even admitted that themselves and promised more,For the past nine months all we have seen is channels close and channels to be taken off just to be replaced by others.Constant promises and coming soons is now starting to wear thin and now wit this great product (tivo) its needs support from new channels especially HD,If you read recent reviews it makes reference to how many less HD channels vm have compared to sky.
You're missing the poiny of my post. I wasn't saying VM don't need more channels. I agree they do.

I was saying that, in my view, to say, as jonandmarkuk did, that Tivo is 'pointless' with the current VM channel content is wrong..

howardmicks 01-04-2011 21:33
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35204238)
You're missing the poiny of my post. I wasn't saying VM don't need more channels. I agree they do.

I was saying that, in my view, to say, as jonandmarkuk did, that Tivo is 'pointless' with the current VM channel content is wrong..
Got yer matey,Hope i haven`t offended.Just think i have wrote what most people are thinking,I aint calling VM.I compliment them for all the hard work they have done and certainly applaud them for listening to customers and doing something about it,But they now need to listen to us again tivo is not going to bring massive amounts of customers alone it need support form new channels.Take muppetman11,He didnt want to leave just wanted new channels like us all in the end he got sick of waiting and i know plenty more who have done the same.
Do agree that tivo is pointless is a tad harse

passingbat 01-04-2011 21:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35204243)
Got yer matey,Hope i haven`t offended.
Definitely not.


Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35204243)
Just think i have wrote what most people are thinking,I aint calling VM.I compliment them for all the hard work they have done and certainly applaud them for listening to customers and doing something about it,But they now need to listen to us again tivo is not going to bring massive amounts of customers alone it need support form new channels.Take muppetman11,He didnt want to leave just wanted new channels like us all in the end he got sick of waiting and i know plenty more who have done the same.
I agree with that. And re Tivo, I think it will be interesting to see if it attracts any Sky customers.

Some people want to add HD channels even if it means an HD charge similar to Sky's £10.25 a month charge. I personally am not in favour of that and prefer HD channels free, even if it means VM have to wait a little longer to get them at a decent price.

muppetman11 01-04-2011 21:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35204249)
Definitely not.




I agree with that. And re Tivo, I think it will be interesting to see if it attracts any Sky customers.

Some people want to add HD channels even if it means an HD charge similar to Sky's £10.25 a month charge. I personally am not in favour of that and prefer HD channels free, even if it means VM have to wait a little longer to get them at a decent price.
But those with sky premiums and TiVo are paying a tenner anyway for far less HD channels.

passingbat 01-04-2011 21:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204250)
But those with sky premiums and TiVo are paying a tenner anyway for far less HD channels.
As always, which provider is best for you depends on the content you want.

For those who don't take Movies or sports, but want HD on other channels, VM's system is good because you get a lot of HD free of charge.

It would be interesting to know of the total VM HD subscribers, what percentage take Sky movies or sports.

I don't and because of having two HD boxes, Sky pricing sucks compared to VMs. Also, from my personal perspective, Tivo functionality is worth more to me than a few extra HD channels (channels that I can see the content anyway, though only in SD; Sky atlantic excluded, which I would like.)

howardmicks 01-04-2011 22:12
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35204249)
Definitely not.




I agree with that. And re Tivo, I think it will be interesting to see if it attracts any Sky customers.

Some people want to add HD channels even if it means an HD charge similar to Sky's £10.25 a month charge. I personally am not in favour of that and prefer HD channels free, even if it means VM have to wait a little longer to get them at a decent price.
The waits not the problem,but nine months is a bit of a joke.Vm defo have the right approach,Sky just chuck money at channels just to get them.Dont want vm to start doing that,But really thought vm would have had some new channels to back tivo at the launch party.As i stated in a earlier post breaks my heart to give sky any of my money im pro vm all the way;)

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DF as been quiet today,Hope he has gone looking for some HD Channels lol

mersey70 02-04-2011 09:08
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35204262)
The waits not the problem,but nine months is a bit of a joke.Vm defo have the right approach,Sky just chuck money at channels just to get them.Dont want vm to start doing that,But really thought vm would have had some new channels to back tivo at the launch party.As i stated in a earlier post breaks my heart to give sky any of my money im pro vm all the way;)

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DF as been quiet today,Hope he has gone looking for some HD Channels lol
I agree Sky probably do chuck money around to get HD channels but their customers pay for the priviledge, it's the £300 million+ a year they reap in HD subs they are chucking around.

That's the path they have chosen and over 3 million punters (me included) seem OK with that. VM have followed a different path so it's upto the customer which they prefer.

What I do know is when you don't pay extra for basic HD you simply cannot have it both ways. I sometimes take the mickey but to get 12 pay HD channels included in XL isn't bad you know, not at all but it isn't for me.

Choose accordingly.

Chad 02-04-2011 10:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35204337)
I agree Sky probably do chuck money around to get HD channels but their customers pay for the priviledge, it's the £300 million+ a year they reap in HD subs they are chucking around.

That's the path they have chosen and over 3 million punters (me included) seem OK with that. VM have followed a different path so it's upto the customer which they prefer.

What I do know is when you don't pay extra for basic HD you simply cannot have it both ways. I sometimes take the mickey but to get 12 pay HD channels included in XL isn't bad you know, not at all but it isn't for me.

Choose accordingly.
Well said mate. If people do have the option to choose between SKY or Virgin, I can't understand why they post on this forum that they are unhappy with the channels and content that Virgin provide. If you have the option to do so, then go to SKY it really is that simple. If you continue to stay with Virgin paying them your hard earned money for a service your not happy with then when it boils right down to it your a mug.

muppetman11 02-04-2011 11:00
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35204353)
Well said mate. If people do have the option to choose between SKY or Virgin, I can't understand why they post on this forum that they are unhappy with the channels and content that Virgin provide. If you have the option to do so, then go to SKY it really is that simple. If you continue to stay with Virgin paying them your hard earned money for a service your not happy with then when it boils right down to it your a mug.
Yep its that easy mate :D

denphone 02-04-2011 11:01
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35204353)
Well said mate. If people do have the option to choose between SKY or Virgin, I can't understand why they post on this forum that they are unhappy with the channels and content that Virgin provide. If you have the option to do so, then go to SKY it really is that simple. If you continue to stay with Virgin paying them your hard earned money for a service your not happy with then when it boils right down to it your a mug.
Some households cannot have Sky.

mersey70 02-04-2011 11:23
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35204359)
Some households cannot have Sky.
Indeed, in that circumstance I suppose customers need to accept VM for what it is or consider leaving.

Perhaps they will introduce additional tiers of service in future but there's no indication that will happen. It's also worth remembering there seems to be lot's of people who are happy with their pricing policy, some people simply dont want or need 50 odd HD channels and prefer a smaller selection at no extra charge, similarly some people like me have not a jot of interest in a STB like Tivo and not because of the cost either. I prefer the widest choice of linear channels and a 'standard' PVR but that's just me.

Horses for courses.

muppetman11 02-04-2011 11:25
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35204359)
Some households cannot have Sky.
Well there what is known as up the river without a paddle :D I still bet half who winge on here can :D

Chad 02-04-2011 11:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35204359)
Some households cannot have Sky.
They should be delighted that Virgin is available in their area. If they couldn't get SKY or Virgin then they'd have to make do with Freeview, Freesat or BT. They should stop comparing Virgin to SKY as SKY is something they'll never get. They need to accept their lot in life and move on:p:

Anyway my original post was really aimed at those who do have the choice, and can switch to SKY.

denphone 02-04-2011 13:01
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35204382)
They should be delighted that Virgin is available in their area. If they couldn't get SKY or Virgin then they'd have to make do with Freeview, Freesat or BT. They should stop comparing Virgin to SKY as SKY is something they'll never get. They need to accept their lot in life and move on:p:

Anyway my original post was really aimed at those who do have the choice, and can switch to SKY.
By heck its nice to have a supporters club.

Arthurgray50@blu 02-04-2011 13:04
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
I think what the position is that VM isn't a big challenge in the broadcasting world, no matter what they tell you, the issue with channels is that, again they want them on the cheap.

Its about time they put customers first instead of thinking of themself, Sky themself said that they offered Atlantic to VM, at a reaonable price, and VM said it was too expensive - what do they want it for nothing.

They must be paying a lot of money for those adverts on Tv, WHY, they shove loads of leaflets through my door each week, if they havn't got money, then why advertise on Tv.

Hugh 02-04-2011 13:08
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35204437)
I think what the position is that VM isn't a big challenge in the broadcasting world, no matter what they tell you, the issue with channels is that, again they want them on the cheap.

Its about time they put customers first instead of thinking of themself, Sky themself said that they offered Atlantic to VM, at a reaonable price, and VM said it was too expensive - what do they want it for nothing.

They must be paying a lot of money for those adverts on Tv, WHY, they shove loads of leaflets through my door each week, if they havn't got money, then why advertise on Tv.
But Arthur (and I think you probably haven't thought this through fully), if VM pay more for the channels, they will have to charge the customers (you and me) more.

denphone 02-04-2011 13:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35204441)
But Arthur (and I think you probably haven't thought this through fully), if VM pay more for the channels, they will have to charge the customers (you and me) more.
One of the biggest problems is Virgins pricing structure is totally inflexible.

Chad 02-04-2011 13:18
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35204437)
I think what the position is that VM isn't a big challenge in the broadcasting world, no matter what they tell you, the issue with channels is that, again they want them on the cheap.
I'm glad they do. I don't want my monthly subscription fee to be jumping up month after month to cover the cost of Virgin throwing money at new channels.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35204437)
Its about time they put customers first instead of thinking of themself, Sky themself said that they offered Atlantic to VM, at a reaonable price, and VM said it was too expensive - what do they want it for nothing.
I believe Virgin are putting their customers first. They engage in long drawn out negotiations to deliver the right channels to us, at the right price. We have no proof whatsoever in regards to how much SKY wanted for SKY Atlantic, and how much Virgin offered for it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35204437)
They must be paying a lot of money for those adverts on Tv, WHY, they shove loads of leaflets through my door each week, if they havn't got money, then why advertise on Tv.
I'd say Virgin are trying to grow their customer base. More customers means more money, which means Virgin have more funds available to negotiate deals to bring new channels to their platform.

I'm pretty frustrated that Premier Sports hasn't arrived yet. I am however convinced that as long as customers demand this channel Virgin will eventually get it at the right price.

Hugh 02-04-2011 13:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35204446)
One of the biggest problems is Virgins pricing structure is totally inflexible.
Agreed - however, some of this is down to the content suppliers (such as Sky), who insist that channels are bought in groups.

Arthurgray50@blu 02-04-2011 13:25
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
I would be quite prepared to pay a few quid more, for better quality channels, ie l would like to have Premier Sports - but at what price.

If people are not prepared to pay for this, you won't get it, in the real world, if you want something, you have got to pay for it - simples.

denphone 02-04-2011 13:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35204450)
Agreed - however, some of this is down to the content suppliers (such as Sky), who insist that channels are bought in groups.
We all know that Sky despite ofcoms intervention still has too much power in which they can dictate to other providers but Virgin has to also take the blame for trying to get channels for nothing, in some cases to please customers they should pay the going rate.
There are also still plenty of channels not owned by Sky in which Virgin could get for customers.

Hugh 02-04-2011 13:34
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Erm, could you give us an example of VM trying to get a channel for nothing, please?

muppetman11 02-04-2011 13:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35204457)
We all know that Sky despite ofcoms intervention still has too much power in which they can dictate to other providers but Virgin has to also take the blame for trying to get channels for nothing, in some cases to please customers they should pay the going rate.
There are also still plenty of channels not owned by Sky in which Virgin could get for customers.
A very valid point , it's very easy to blame Sky all the time. To be honest I'm not Murdoch's biggest fan however I do feel VM want channels ridiculously cheap , they haven't even added pay tv channels like ITV 2,3,4 HD.

Big-Ted 02-04-2011 13:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35204457)
We all know that Sky despite ofcoms intervention still has too much power in which they can dictate to other providers but Virgin has to also take the blame for trying to get channels for nothing, in some cases to please customers they should pay the going rate.
There are also still plenty of channels not owned by Sky in which Virgin could get for customers.

I would be interested in the list of channels that are available in this country that enough customers would be interested in that VM should be spending money on them.


A few more HD channels and a boost in box sets etc on VOD would be more welcome by most rather than niche channels that would have low viewing figures.

Henkesghost 02-04-2011 13:45
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Virgin have added sod all of note for 7 months with no sign of improvement. Silence from them is as ever deafening. End of. Cue happy clappers;)

muppetman11 02-04-2011 13:45
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Here Ted take your pick

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...nels_in_the_UK

denphone 02-04-2011 13:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35204461)
Erm, could you give us an example of VM trying to get a channel for nothing, please?
What other reason would you give for the failure to add channels in the last nine months especially when in some cases they said certain channels are coming as stated in certain press releases.

Big-Ted 02-04-2011 13:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204463)
A very valid point , it's very easy to blame Sky all the time. To be honest I'm not Murdoch's biggest fan however I do feel VM want channels ridiculously cheap , they haven't even added pay tv channels like ITV 2,3,4 HD.

Okaaaayyyy


Can you provide a link where Virgin are trying to get channels "ridiculously cheap"......


Apart from telling Sky that the price they want for Atlantic is way too high I don't know of any.

They are of course trying to pay what they feel is a sustainable price that means they can compete with Sky and thats what the whole Ofcom thing was about...........


As to ITV 2,3 & 4 HD no-one knows as far as I know what the deal is that they have with Sky and if subs etc are based on being exclusive or if Sky helped pay for them to be set up as well.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204473)

Thats a list of "HD" channels not just "channels" as was being discussed.......


I was asking for a list of channels that are available and not on VM and are not niche products.


We all know whats not on VM HD wise

muppetman11 02-04-2011 13:58
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An email off Cindy Rose stating ESPN wanted to much for ESPNA HD , it's the same old line all the time and like Mersey70 has said always will be under their current free HD policy.

alwaysabear 02-04-2011 14:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big-Ted (Post 35204476)
Okaaaayyyy


Can you provide a link where Virgin are trying to get channels "ridiculously cheap"......


Apart from telling Sky that the price they want for Atlantic is way too high I don't know of any.

They are of course trying to pay what they feel is a sustainable price that means they can compete with Sky and thats what the whole Ofcom thing was about...........


As to ITV 2,3 & 4 HD no-one knows as far as I know what the deal is that they have with Sky and if subs etc are based on being exclusive or if Sky helped pay for them to be set up as well.

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Thats a list of "HD" channels not just "channels" as was being discussed.......


I was asking for a list of channels that are available and not on VM and are not niche products.


We all know whats not on VM HD wise
I contacted Cindy Rose in January regarding ESPNA HD and was told "The channel is expensive and we are trying very hard to work with ESPN to find a way to make it available to our customer base affordably. Please bear with us while we complete these discussions...
Still no news are they still in negotiations? several other people have asked the same question over the last 9 months and get similar answers, or lack of capacity.:(

passingbat 02-04-2011 14:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35204353)
Well said mate. If people do have the option to choose between SKY or Virgin, I can't understand why they post on this forum that they are unhappy with the channels and content that Virgin provide. If you have the option to do so, then go to SKY it really is that simple. If you continue to stay with Virgin paying them your hard earned money for a service your not happy with then when it boils right down to it your a mug.
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204358)
Yep its that easy mate :D
It's not that simple or easy. Both VM and Sky offer things that are better than each other. I'd like loads of HD channels, but i want TIVO functionality.

I know you can split the services between the two companies, but for the best pricing, you're best having all services with one or the other. But sky's telephone package is cheaper than VMs and probably equal quality, but VMs broadband is better than Sky's.

Then there are repair costs, free with Virgin and cost with Sky (I know the threaten to leave tack that will be brought up with Sky). Then there is reliability and customer service. I can't speak for Sky as I've never been with them, but i know I'm very happy with VM's reliability and customer service.

So the Sky/VM decision isn't simple; it's a compromise for most people and I can se why people want to stick with VM but post asking for more HD channels. And I can see why people who's main priority is lots of HD go to Sky.

denphone 02-04-2011 14:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35204485)
I contacted Cindy Rose in January regarding ESPNA HD and was told "The channel is expensive and we are trying very hard to work with ESPN to find a way to make it available to our customer base affordably. Please bear with us while we complete these discussions...
Still no news are they still in negotiations? several other people have asked the same question over the last 9 months and get similar answers, or lack of capacity.:(
Its the same old excuses that Virgin use all the time, l remember them saying we will get all the channels we can get to complete with Sky.

muppetman11 02-04-2011 14:11
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
A phone is a phone mate what do you mean equal quality , Sky phone is miles cheaper than VM , in fact VM phone service is one of the dearest available.

Hugh 02-04-2011 14:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35204474)
What other reason would you give for the failure to add channels in the last nine months especially when in some cases they said certain channels are coming as stated in certain press releases.
So, that'll be a "No", then.....;)

It couldn't possibly be something like the reason that Sky are being investigated by Ofcom, could it, that their incremental retail rates are lower than the wholesale rate they offer to BT/VM/etc, or that suppliers of channels bundle them together in packages at an increased price - obviously not......

denphone 02-04-2011 14:14
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204498)
A phone is a phone mate what do you mean equal quality , Sky phone is miles cheaper than VM , in fact VM phone service is one of the dearest available.
I am not allowed a dish where l live so l am stuck with my current provider.

Hugh 02-04-2011 14:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35204496)
Its the same old excuses that Virgin use all the time, l remember them saying we will get all the channels we can get to complete with Sky.
Obviously the content providers aren't trying to get the best deal for themselves, either - that's why it's called "negotiation".....

There's faults on both sides, but I find it dreadfully amusing that some posters seem to think VM are doing this deliberately to p their customers off (and if they don't think that, they post like they think that).

muppetman11 02-04-2011 14:18
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Whats the excuse for not adding ITV HD channels , Nat Geo Wild HD , History HD , Disney Cine and XD HD , universal HD , Bio HD , ESPNA HD , EDen HD , Crime HD , Nickelodeon HD , I know we'll just blame Sky for that as well.

Hugh 02-04-2011 14:20
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
No - perhaps they can't get a good costing for them; people would/have objected when the prices go up.

I can imagine the outrage - "I didn't want these channels, why does my price have to increase!!!".

alwaysabear 02-04-2011 14:21
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204506)
Whats the excuse for not adding ITV HD channels , Nat Geo Wild HD , History HD , Disney Cine and XD HD , universal HD , Bio HD , ESPNA HD , EDen HD , Crime HD , Nickelodeon HD , I know we'll just blame Sky for that as well.
Especially the UK TV HD channels which VM own 50%.:(

denphone 02-04-2011 14:21
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204506)
Whats the excuse for not adding ITV HD channels , Nat Geo Wild HD , History HD , Disney Cine and XD HD , universal HD , Bio HD , ESPNA HD , EDen HD , Crime HD , Nickelodeon HD , I know we'll just blame Sky for that as well.
Exactly.

alwaysabear 02-04-2011 14:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35204510)
No - perhaps they can't get a good costing for them; people would/have objected when the prices go up.

I can imagine the outrage - "I didn't want these channels, why does my price have to increase!!!".
They have just put the prices up again for nothing new.

muppetman11 02-04-2011 14:23
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
It's also funny as Berkett says Sky want to much money and Sky say VM don't want to pay for Atlantic .

Sky's view

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...c-virgin-media

VM View
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...a-sky-atlantic

denphone 02-04-2011 14:25
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35204510)
No - perhaps they can't get a good costing for them; people would/have objected when the prices go up.

I can imagine the outrage - "I didn't want these channels, why does my price have to increase!!!".
Our prices have already increased twice in the last 9 months but they have added absolutely nothing to our package , in matter of fact they have removed several channels in the last few months.

passingbat 02-04-2011 14:31
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204498)
A phone is a phone mate what do you mean equal quality , Sky phone is miles cheaper than VM , in fact VM phone service is one of the dearest available.
I said that Sky were cheaper for phone and I said I suspect they will be equal quality. By quality, I mean how good is the service if the phone line goes down; how quick do they come out and fix it; do they charge for repairs.

I was on Sky's side for the phone; not sure what you were objecting to :D

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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204516)
It's also funny as Berkett says Sky want to much money and Sky say VM don't want to pay for Atlantic .
Yeh, responses like that from each company are a shocker :D

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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35204512)
Especially the UK TV HD channels which VM own 50%.:(
Yeh, that does seem crazy.

muppetman11 02-04-2011 14:33
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
My point was there are always two sides to the story.

Lew 02-04-2011 15:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35204485)
I contacted Cindy Rose in January regarding ESPNA HD and was told "The channel is expensive and we are trying very hard to work with ESPN to find a way to make it available to our customer base affordably. Please bear with us while we complete these discussions...
Still no news are they still in negotiations? several other people have asked the same question over the last 9 months and get similar answers, or lack of capacity.:(
Remind me, how many other European sat/cable providers are carrying ESPNA HD? Despite the length of time its been available and the big push ESPNA are making to get viewers to ask their providers to carry the HD channel you'd be hard-pushed to find more than 5, and at least two of them are Sky-owned. Satellite providers have to do very little as the channel's uplinked to satellite by ESPN so they just pay a fee and add it to their packages. Cable providers have to get hold of the signal and provide a space for it on one of their muxes, all of which costs extra money on top of whatever ESPN want for the channel. Unless more providers start to carry the channel I think ESPN will have to re-think how much they want for it.

HDFootyMan 02-04-2011 15:02
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204463)
A very valid point , it's very easy to blame Sky all the time. To be honest I'm not Murdoch's biggest fan however I do feel VM want channels ridiculously cheap , they haven't even added pay tv channels like ITV 2,3,4 HD.
For all we know, they could be exclusive for the moment to Sky.

muppetman11 02-04-2011 15:05
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
But Adam Crozier said they were open to talks with Virgin Media.

denphone 02-04-2011 15:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Expect talks to take several years.

HDFootyMan 02-04-2011 15:14
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204554)
But Adam Crozier said they were open to talks with Virgin Media.
Sky were 'open' for talks during the Sky Basics dispute.

Didn't stop them for asking for x3 more money for Sky 1, did it?

And if VM had said, 'yeah, we'll pay that', .....then what?

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Its disgraceful that VM have put up the XL cost just for the bloody Simpsons! :mad::td:

muppetman11 02-04-2011 15:15
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
ITV's HD channels will become available to Sky+ HD subscribers in autumn, starting with ITV2 in October. ITV was in talks with other providers, Crozier said, including Virgin Media, but the deal was exclusive to Sky among satellite platforms.



http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...ls-pay-tv-push

denphone 02-04-2011 15:18
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204560)
ITV's HD channels will become available to Sky+ HD subscribers in autumn, starting with ITV2 in October. ITV was in talks with other providers, Crozier said, including Virgin Media, but the deal was exclusive to Sky among satellite platforms.



http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...ls-pay-tv-push
And here we are in april still waiting but we did get our price rises very quickly though.

howardmicks 02-04-2011 16:11
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I.
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35204506)
Whats the excuse for not adding ITV HD channels , Nat Geo Wild HD , History HD , Disney Cine and XD HD , universal HD , Bio HD , ESPNA HD , EDen HD , Crime HD , Nickelodeon HD , I know we'll just blame Sky for that as well.
Nickelodeon HD As been part funded by sky thats why we aint got that,The others must be coming soon ;)


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