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Joedm45 03-03-2018 11:22
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35939173)
..as can material bought on the VM Store, up to 5 devices.
Fair Point but I'd much rather have Amazon. I've said before I prefer their device limit model for streaming, unlimited devices but only two streaming at once.

5 devices is an improvement on 2 on VM Go but still may not suit a typical family of four with differing tastes in what to watch. There are now so many devices in households with smartphones, tablets, PCs, laptops and VM Boxes that I think some may find a 5 limit an issue

OLD BOY 03-03-2018 11:39
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 35939172)
I agree any Amazon app appearing on VM would need to be watered down, in my opinion just Prime Video would work for VM.

Seeing as VM have only just launched VM store then it would be silly to add direct competition onto the same box. You could say buying a movie or show through Amazon is a better option if it's the same price as it can be viewed on multiple devices
It's not a problem. You already have such conflicts between Virgin Movies and Netflix. I don't favour a watered down Amazon, that is not necessary.

I want to be able to search for something on my V6 and have a good chance of locating what I'm looking for, whether on Sky, on demand, Virgin Movies, other channels on the EPG, Netflix or Amazon.

denphone 09-03-2018 15:22
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Virgin Media want to be multi-SVOD aggregator but rules out deal with Amazon.

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Tom Mockridge, CEO at Virgin Media, confirmed that the company views itself as an SVOD aggregator, although he ruled out a deal with Amazon, apparently on the grounds that they are competitive. “Amazon is a terrific business but fundamentally they are a retailer and we are a retail business.”
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The experience in Ireland is that people are still watching plenty of (traditional) television. “Customers always want news, sport and local content, which they do not get on Netflix,” Hanway said. “They are complementary, and we have not seen cannibalisation [of viewing from the rest of the bouquet].” That would suggest that overall viewing is up.
http://www.v-net.tv/2018/03/09/its-o...d-aggregators/

Mad Max 09-03-2018 16:02
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35940142)
Virgin Media want to be multi-SVOD aggregator but rules out deal with Amazon.





http://www.v-net.tv/2018/03/09/its-o...d-aggregators/
I think he's talking bollox!

denphone 09-03-2018 16:13
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35940145)
I think he's talking bollox!
Any reason why you think that MM?,

Mad Max 09-03-2018 16:37
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35940147)
Any reason why you think that MM?,
Yes, all the other evidence about how popular streaming is would seem to suggest that.

denphone 09-03-2018 16:45
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35940148)
Yes, all the other evidence about how popular streaming is would seem to suggest that.
It suggest that.

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“Streaming services are complementary, and we have not seen cannibalisation [of viewing from the rest of the TV bouquet].”

OLD BOY 09-03-2018 18:10
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35940142)
Virgin Media want to be multi-SVOD aggregator but rules out deal with Amazon.





http://www.v-net.tv/2018/03/09/its-o...d-aggregators/
Honestly! What a perverse attitude in this world of rapidly growing SVOD streaming. Even the BBC, whom I'd have thought were more backward looking, have acknowledged that streaming will take over from traditional broadcasts within the next 15 years. This is Virgin's opportunity to get ahead of the game, but it now looks as though Sky will beat them to it. Same old, same old.

Patience is beginning to wear very thin now. :mad:

denphone 09-03-2018 18:28
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35940164)
Honestly! What a perverse attitude in this world of rapidly growing SVOD streaming. Even the BBC, whom I'd have thought were more backward looking, have acknowledged that streaming will take over from traditional broadcasts within the next 15 years. This is Virgin's opportunity to get ahead of the game, but it now looks as though Sky will beat them to it. Same old, same old.

Patience is beginning to wear very thin now. :mad:
Well instead of procrastinating continuously for the last few years OB there is something called freedom of choice...

OLD BOY 09-03-2018 19:20
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35940166)
Well instead of procrastinating continuously for the last few years OB there is something called freedom of choice...
The choice I want hasn't come about yet, Den.

denphone 09-03-2018 19:39
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35940173)
The choice I want hasn't come about yet, Den.
Perhaps it never will...

passingbat 10-03-2018 10:34
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35940164)
Honestly! What a perverse attitude in this world of rapidly growing SVOD streaming. Even the BBC, whom I'd have thought were more backward looking, have acknowledged that streaming will take over from traditional broadcasts within the next 15 years. This is Virgin's opportunity to get ahead of the game, but it now looks as though Sky will beat them to it. Same old, same old.

Patience is beginning to wear very thin now. :mad:

Sorry OB, I really don't understand why you are constantly moaning about lack of Amazon video on Tivo. You have a thirty five quid stick that gets you exactly what you want.


You've previously mentioned about leaving VM, if they don't get Amazon video. So, you'd be leaving VM, because they don't have something that you've already got? :confused:

OLD BOY 10-03-2018 11:24
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35940194)
Sorry OB, I really don't understand why you are constantly moaning about lack of Amazon video on Tivo. You have a thirty five quid stick that gets you exactly what you want.


You've previously mentioned about leaving VM, if they don't get Amazon video. So, you'd be leaving VM, because they don't have something that you've already got? :confused:
I am looking at this from a number of perspectives, passingbat. From a personal perspective, yes, I can already get Amazon on other devices, but I don't want to be conducting multiple searches to locate what I am looking for. At present, if the show I'm after is on Nerflix or the BBC i-Player, a search on the V6 will locate it, but if it's on Amazon or any other streaming service, it won't. I don't want to be searching a lot of different sites to find what I'm trying to hunt out.

Secondly, once you find something on TV that you like, how do you ensure you don't forget to watch it at a later date? Well, for anything taken from the EPG channels, you simply record it. If it's on demand, the i-Player or Netflix, I can bookmark it. But for the streaming services not available on the V6, you have to put the programme on your watchlist, and each service has its own watchlist. So I don't want to be looking at lots of different lists to find the programmes I've identified.

Thirdly, from a VM business perspective, surely it makes sense to offer a whole range of good SVOD services. If the V6 was seen as an excellent streaming box, it would be extremely popular and draw more people into VM's system. The more subscribers VM gets, the more money they will have to spend on content and technology while keeping prices down. Of Sky, BT, Virgin Media, Talk Talk and the rest, VM is my preferred platform, but I do worry that it may succomb to the competition in the foreseeable future. To my mind, having a nice range of SVOD services on the V6 will stand the company in good stead and would be an even better alternative to Sky, the main player in the industry.

The way things seem to be going, Sky will beat VM to the post with Amazon and VM will have to play catch up - again.

denphone 10-03-2018 11:47
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
l doubt whether Sky will get Amazon OB..

passingbat 10-03-2018 12:40
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35940196)
I am looking at this from a number of perspectives, passingbat. From a personal perspective, yes, I can already get Amazon on other devices, but I don't want to be conducting multiple searches to locate what I am looking for. At present, if the show I'm after is on Nerflix or the BBC i-Player, a search on the V6 will locate it, but if it's on Amazon or any other streaming service, it won't. I don't want to be searching a lot of different sites to find what I'm trying to hunt out.

Secondly, once you find something on TV that you like, how do you ensure you don't forget to watch it at a later date? Well, for anything taken from the EPG channels, you simply record it. If it's on demand, the i-Player or Netflix, I can bookmark it. But for the streaming services not available on the V6, you have to put the programme on your watchlist, and each service has its own watchlist. So I don't want to be looking at lots of different lists to find the programmes I've identified.

Thirdly, from a VM business perspective, surely it makes sense to offer a whole range of good SVOD services. If the V6 was seen as an excellent streaming box, it would be extremely popular and draw more people into VM's system. The more subscribers VM gets, the more money they will have to spend on content and technology while keeping prices down. Of Sky, BT, Virgin Media, Talk Talk and the rest, VM is my preferred platform, but I do worry that it may succomb to the competition in the foreseeable future. To my mind, having a nice range of SVOD services on the V6 will stand the company in good stead and would be an even better alternative to Sky, the main player in the industry.

The way things seem to be going, Sky will beat VM to the post with Amazon and VM will have to play catch up - again.

Nothing there that is even a minor issue for me at all, but if it upsets you so much, being that you now have a definitive answer re Amazon, I guess the path ahead for you is to leave VM.


I suspect you will never find a supplier that meets all your requirements though.


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