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Itshim 14-06-2022 17:39

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36091171)
So Wales supports Scotland financially?

Doubt it , but the amount of taxes I pay supports many around this and two other countries , god knows accountants cost enough , dread to think what it would be with out them :angel: as Scotland takes more out of the pot than it put in the rest will be better off . If l was English I'd dump Wales and Northern Ireland as well but that's a whole different story !

Chris 14-06-2022 18:47

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36125267)
I assume Sturgeon is raising independence now as she knows Johnson is in a defensive position. Not that he will change his mind, but it will distract him from other matters.

To be fair she’s been saying for months she’d raise it now. Had it not been for covid she’d have raised it a year or more ago. If she doesn’t at least look like she’s trying to get a referendum during the present Holyrood parliamentary term, then the wider sep movement will fracture and she will likely get defenestrated. The economics and the polling really don’t make any sense for her right now but she can only prevaricate so long.

She is of course continuing to prevaricate - note the lack of specifics in today’s reheated mince, and also how she plans to drip-feed half a dozen position papers into public view in the coming weeks, without any actual timetable.

1andrew1 15-06-2022 09:59

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36125300)
To be fair she’s been saying for months she’d raise it now. Had it not been for covid she’d have raised it a year or more ago. If she doesn’t at least look like she’s trying to get a referendum during the present Holyrood parliamentary term, then the wider sep movement will fracture and she will likely get defenestrated. The economics and the polling really don’t make any sense for her right now but she can only prevaricate so long.

She is of course continuing to prevaricate - note the lack of specifics in today’s reheated mince, and also how she plans to drip-feed half a dozen position papers into public view in the coming weeks, without any actual timetable.

i did wonder if the timing was anything to do with distracting from Patrick Grady (SNP MP) facing suspension from the Commons for sexual misconduct.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61798663

007stuart 15-06-2022 18:18

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36125368)
i did wonder if the timing was anything to do with distracting from Patrick Grady (SNP MP) facing suspension from the Commons for sexual misconduct.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61798663


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Hom3r 15-06-2022 21:52

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Obviously she has solved Brexit and stopped Covid-19 is Scotland then?

Julian 15-06-2022 22:11

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Originally Posted by 007stuart (Post 36125422)
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I think you were right Andrew

Mad Max 15-06-2022 23:24

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36125368)
i did wonder if the timing was anything to do with distracting from Patrick Grady (SNP MP) facing suspension from the Commons for sexual misconduct.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61798663

Spot on, sir.

1andrew1 28-06-2022 14:49

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19th October 2023 proposed as referendum date by Sturgeon.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-61968607

papa smurf 28-06-2022 15:29

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36126441)
19th October 2023 proposed as referrndum date by Sturgeon.BBC News - Scottish independence: 19 October 2023 proposed as date for referendum
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-61968607

Proposed date of illegal referendum is more like it.

Stephen 28-06-2022 15:43

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I wish the SNP would just knock it on the head. They had their no answer last time.

At this moment is not the right time to divide the country yet again. We have far more important issues which the people running our country need to work on. Recovery from Covid, cost of living crisis etc.

Mick 28-06-2022 16:14

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Supreme Court gonna pick up this tab, can’t see them saying yes to dear wee sweet Nicola.

Damien 28-06-2022 16:21

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I think the plan is to get rejected and then hype that as a grievance for the 2024 Scottish Elections.

Mick 28-06-2022 16:49

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36126448)
I think the plan is to get rejected and then hype that as a grievance for the 2024 Scottish Elections.

Could be the case SNP joins Labour in a Coalition, should there be a Hung Parliament, in GE2024, part of that deal, will be she gets her Westminster consent.

nashville 28-06-2022 16:59

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Here we go again with her Indy2, No wonder Scotland is being neglected as she keeps all the money for to fight this situation, People of Scotland need to get together and take a hard look at what we would be like on our own , In the gutter for sure

Hugh 28-06-2022 17:00

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36126445)
Proposed date of illegal referendum is more like it.

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36126447)
Supreme Court gonna pick up this tab, can’t see them saying yes to dear wee sweet Nicola.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-61968607

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Ms Sturgeon said Scotland's top law officer, the Lord Advocate, has referred the case to the UK's highest court, with court papers being served on UK government law officers on Tuesday afternoon.

The first minister said she hoped the court would be able to "deliver clarity and legal certainty in a timely manner" instead of passing the bill and then facing a legal challenge from opponents.

If the court rules that Holyrood does not have the power to hold a referendum, she said the next general election would become a "de facto referendum" with the SNP standing on a single issue of independence.

However, if the court rules in the Scottish government's favour, Ms Sturgeon said it would move quickly to pass its Referendum Bill, which was published while she was speaking.

She said that the lawfulness of the referendum "must be established as a matter of fact, not just opinion".


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