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As a patriotic Brit, I find it sad when I read news like this about the dimininshing of one of our key sectors and the resultant loss of jobs, taxes and influence to this country.

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Brexit Prompts 7,500 City Jobs, $1.6 Trillion to Leave U.K.

Financial services firms operating in the U.K. have shifted about 7,500 employees and more than 1.2 trillion pounds ($1.6 trillion) of assets to the European Union ahead of Brexit -- with more likely to follow in coming weeks, according to EY.

About 400 relocations were announced in the past month alone, the consulting firm said in a report on Thursday that tracks 222 of the largest financial firms with significant operations in the U.K. Since Britain voted to leave the bloc in 2016, the finance industry has added 2,850 positions in the EU, with Dublin, Luxembourg and Frankfurt seeing the biggest gains.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-to-leave-u-k

OLD BOY

01-10-2020 20:09

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36052268)

As a patriotic Brit, I find it sad when I read news like this about the dimininshing of one of our key sectors and the resultant loss of jobs, taxes and influence to this country.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-to-leave-u-k

Yeah, yeah, Andrew! You do make me laugh!

papa smurf

01-10-2020 20:58

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36052268)

As a patriotic Brit, I find it sad when I read news like this about the dimininshing of one of our key sectors and the resultant loss of jobs, taxes and influence to this country.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-to-leave-u-k

I doubt anyone will ever accuse you of being that;)

Chris

02-10-2020 07:33

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36052268)

As a patriotic Brit, I find it sad when I read news like this about the dimininshing of one of our key sectors and the resultant loss of jobs, taxes and influence to this country.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-to-leave-u-k

Financial services employs more than a million people in the U.K. and handles assets in excess of US$14 trillion. The financial crash of 2008 saw around $5 trillion of assets vanish from these shores and we seem to have coped.

May I politely suggest there are other causes more worthy of your injured patriotism. ;)

Sephiroth

02-10-2020 08:14

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36052318)

.... and that should not include Andrew's attraction to the hegemonic EU nor advocacy for its negotiating position

A "Patriotic Brit" in these days would bear/support at least the following attributes:

1. Brexit means Brexit;
2. Leave means Leave;
3. British waters mean British waters;
4. Sovereignty means sovereignty;
5. Sod the SNP.

Hugh	02-10-2020 08:46

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You forgot "meaningless slogan means meaningless slogan"...

I’m patriotic, but I don’t call those who don’t share my views (by implication) "non-patriots".

jonbxx

02-10-2020 11:48

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If a family member was set on pursuing a course of action that, in my opinion, was going to say, break the law or make them worse off, I will call them out on it even if they really, really wanted to do it.

Doesn't mean I don't love them.

Sephiroth

02-10-2020 14:22

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36052328)

You forgot "meaningless slogan means meaningless slogan"...

I’m patriotic, but I don’t call those who don’t share my views (by implication) "non-patriots".

Nor do I.

TheDaddy

02-10-2020 14:40

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36049721)

Really? How do you explain Japan being the third largest importer of Dairy poroducts in the world (11.3Billion of EU dairy exports)?

Yes really and if anything I was underestimating the percentage. Imagine the state of their toilets.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36052328)

You forgot "meaningless slogan means meaningless slogan"...

I’m patriotic, but I don’t call those who don’t share my views (by implication) "non-patriots".

I'd have thought a patriot was someone who loves and wants the best for their country, seems the definition has been lost

Chris

02-10-2020 14:44

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36052384)

Yes really and if anything I was underestimating the percentage. Imagine the state of their toilets.

I'd have thought a patriot was someone who loves and wants the best for their country, seems the definition has been lost

Broadly, I think a patriot extols the virtues of their homeland and seeks its improvement where it is found wanting. A nationalist believes their homeland is superior to foreign lands and may have some difficulty accepting theirs has any significant flaws at all.

papa smurf

02-10-2020 14:50

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36052384)

Yes really and if anything I was underestimating the percentage. Imagine the state of their toilets.

I'd have thought a patriot was someone who loves and wants the best for their country, seems the definition has been lost

yes but not someone who put 27 other countries first.

1andrew1

02-10-2020 14:51

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36052386)

I would agree with that.

Sephiroth

02-10-2020 15:19

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36052390)

I would agree with that.

... and with Papa's observation?

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yes but not someone who put 27 other countries first

Hugh	02-10-2020 16:08

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36052328)

You forgot "meaningless slogan means meaningless slogan"...

I’m patriotic, but I don’t call those who don’t share my views (by implication) "non-patriots".

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36052382)

Nor do I.

You just did, by implication

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A "Patriotic Brit" in these days would bear/support at least the following attributes:

1. Brexit means Brexit;
2. Leave means Leave;
3. British waters mean British waters;
4. Sovereignty means sovereignty;
5. Sod the SNP.

I don’t bear/support any of those (I accept Brexit is happening), so by implication, I (and others who feel the same way) can’t be a "Patriotic Brit" - an implication I reject.

Sephiroth

02-10-2020 16:32

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36052403)

You just did, by implication

I don’t bear/support any of those (I accept Brexit is happening), so by implication, I (and others who feel the same way) can’t be a "Patriotic Brit" - an implication I reject.

No I didn't. You incorrectly inferred that. You need to be more careful.

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