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denphone 05-11-2011 16:42

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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35325671)
Not so much frightened denphone i think in certain countries SKY/ESPN have a close relationship which means they simply will not take each other on in any meaningful way.

If they cosy up too much some people could accuse them of distorting the market to suit their own ends.

richard1960 05-11-2011 16:45

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35325674)
If they cosy up too much some people could accuse them of distorting the market to suit their own ends.

Trouble is denphon that would have to be proved,i always remember a piece in the Guardian in which ESPN said in some areas they would compete in others they would not, ,and sky do ESPNS marketing in the uk so it does not take a lot of working out really.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...cup-sky-sports

Read the above link about theree quarters of the way down tells you how close the relationship is denphone.

Wolff says ESPN is happy for Sky to be the senior partner in the UK. "There will be markets where we bid against each other; there are other territories where we will not. You could have a very good second position in a market if that's the best business model you can build at that time." He adds: "We have a complex, multifaceted relationship with Sky [but] complex relationships aren't new to us. We just have to manage that."

Felim_Doyle 05-11-2011 16:55

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35325653)
The full name for the V+ is 'V+ HD'

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35325656)
what Ben said :)

Plus new customers can only get V-HD or TiVo now.

:confused: Hmm! I must be gettin' old. :confused: I'm pretty sure when I had a similar discussion on here a couple of years ago, the consensus was that the V+ Box did not have HD in the name, even though it had HD in the functionality.

Now DF has introduced the V-HD Box! What's that?

It's the whole DVD+R/-R/+RW/-RW, HD DVD, Blu-ray fiasco all over again!!! :(

Just to recap ...
  • I'm not a new customer
  • I'm a long-standing XL customer
  • I don't have a faulty V+ Box that needs to be replaced
  • I may have a faulty V Box that needs to be replaced
  • I don't feel I should have to pay for a TiVo Box just to get PVR functionality

HD Boy 05-11-2011 16:56

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35325629)
i agree that it is quire rubbish, but so are many channels the uk (not sky atlantic, bbc c4 etc)

Why ask then ?

muppetman11 05-11-2011 16:58

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35325674)
If they cosy up too much some people could accuse them of distorting the market to suit their own ends.

Just imagine though Den if they start trying to outbid each other , our subs would rocket and I'm pretty sure at the next contract renewal VM would find it hard to keep ESPN part of the XL package.

gadge 05-11-2011 16:58

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35325669)
Yes but they still seem to be frightened to take on Sky as they seem to be purchasing smaller sports rights.

Wait till the footy rights are up for grabs again then we will see if espn are scared to take on sky frightened i think not.

richard1960 05-11-2011 17:02

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35325692)
Just imagine though Den if they start trying to outbid each other , our subs would rocket and I'm pretty sure at the next contract renewal VM would find it hard to keep ESPN part of the XL package.

Presumably though muppetman if that were to happen sky might have to lower their price whilst ESPN increased theirs when losing rights, never going to happen though.;)

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Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35325693)
Wait till the footy rights are up for grabs again then we will see if espn are scared to take on sky frightened i think not.

Wolff says ESPN is happy for Sky to be the senior partner in the UK. "There will be markets where we bid against each other; there are other territories where we will not. You could have a very good second position in a market if that's the best business model you can build at that time." He adds: "We have a complex, multifaceted relationship with Sky [but] complex relationships aren't new to us. We just have to manage that."


Is what ESPN said earlier this year make your own mind up.;)

muppetman11 05-11-2011 17:04

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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35325695)
Presumably though muppetman if that were to happen sky might have to lower their price whilst ESPN increased theirs when losing rights, never going to happen though.;)

---------- Post added at 16:02 ---------- Previous post was at 16:00 ----------



Wolff says ESPN is happy for Sky to be the senior partner in the UK. "There will be markets where we bid against each other; there are other territories where we will not. You could have a very good second position in a market if that's the best business model you can build at that time." He adds: "We have a complex, multifaceted relationship with Sky [but] complex relationships aren't new to us. We just have to manage that."


Is what ESPN said earlier this year make your own mind up.;)

ESPN will stick to their main market the US ;)

Chad 05-11-2011 17:05

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35325659)

BDO World Professional Darts Championships comes to ESPN

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/darts/15569721.stm

Sorry if this has been posted already. I looked back through the thread first and couldn't see anything.

richard1960 05-11-2011 17:07

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35325703)
ESPN will stick to their main market the US ;)

Pretty much my view as well mate,they may well end up wth another premiership package next time around like setanta had, but that willl be about it in my view.As you say they will predominently stick to their main market.

HD Boy 05-11-2011 17:08

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35325705)
BDO World Professional Darts Championships comes to ESPN

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/darts/15569721.stm

Sorry if this has been posted already. I looked back through the thread first and couldn't see anything.

So that's the BBC lost more sport coverage.

denphone 05-11-2011 17:11

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35325692)
Just imagine though Den if they start trying to outbid each other , our subs would rocket and I'm pretty sure at the next contract renewal VM would find it hard to keep ESPN part of the XL package.

l am not sure subs would rise in a very tricky economic climate where they are fighting to keep every customer.

muppetman11 05-11-2011 17:11

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Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35325708)
Pretty much my view as well mate,they may well end up wth another premiership package next time around like setanta had, but that willl be about it in my view.As you say they will predominently stick to their main market.

Yep that's pretty much how I see it panning out , its still a great result for VM subscribers as they would get 46 games included with XL instead of this years 23.

Chad 05-11-2011 17:14

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35325709)
So that's the BBC lost more sport coverage.

Unfortunately so.

Good news for boxing fans though. It's a rare outing for boxing on the BBC next weekend when they broadcast the British Championships next Saturday afternoon from 2:30pm.

Many of the fighters on show are competing for places in the GB squad for London 2012. It's a good chance to see the boxing stars of tomorrow, today!

Because it's not tucked away on the red button, we'll be able to enjoy this on BBC One HD.

richard1960 05-11-2011 17:16

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35325711)
Yep that's pretty much how I see it panning out , its still a great result for VM subscribers ad they would get 46 games included with XL instead of this years 23.

Yes no argument from me there mate VM subs do get a good deal on the XL package with ESPN, Not sure when the current deal ends though? hopefully a new one would be put in place.46 games would be pretty good value.:)


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