Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36040433)

Don't forget that the labelling has changed a lot since the Conservatives were in power in the 1960's. The Vote Leave Tories in power now are a pale and shallow imitation of the mostly one nation Conservatives up until the mid-1970s.

Saying the two types of Tory party of then and now would be a futile exercise. The Tories of old had a, rightly deserved, reputation of decency, integrity and honesty. This new lot cannot even spell the words nevermind abide by them. The only merit of getting a Cabinet post is being a Vote Leave disciple, ability is a bonus. Take Hancock and the "App" for a nice example:

"We backed both horses" - and worked on two apps at once. On-record statement Department of Health on May 18: "There is no alternative app."

The government had "worked closely with Apple and Google". Apple said: "It is difficult to understand what these claims are as they haven't spoken to us."

"We discovered a technical barrier" that every other country with track and trace apps has found, says Health Secretary Matt Hancock. "Our app won't work because Apple won't change their system". Germany's app using the Apple platform is up & running with 10 million downloads in 3 days.

They just cannot help lying, it is in their nature and I am afraid they are in so deep with the debacle of the UK's handling of this crisis, we will see more of this crap.

Here's another example:

UK campaigners seek judicial review of £108m PPE contract award



It's legit, honest!

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36040306)

Corona virus is over now anyway.......isn’t it?

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36040459)

'Fraid not...:(

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36040342)

How many deaths Nomadking? How many before you accept it could have gone better?

Yes you research I commend you for that. Research obfuscation.

Would you prefer we found people with the virus or let them loose to cause havoc in economic and health terms?

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36040447)

How can it work if it doesn't know who you are or where you are or were?

:dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36040399)

But the Liberal and the Labour Parties were not in power in 1963 or 2020 so why should I mention them?

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36040467)

We can see what you are up to, Andrew. You are fooling no-one. Why even mention the Conservatives when the reasons for that crisis was not due to tneir management of the economy?

Can you really see Labour or the Liberals handling it better? Of course not. Look at the position we were in when Labour left office in 1979 and in 2010. All down to economic mismanagement and overspending.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36040469)

All based on your simplistic understanding of economics. Conservative governments regularly run deficits and add to the debt bundle, despite privatisating anything of value along the way.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36040465)

It know where your phone has been and what other phones it’s been near.

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36040471)

But that only works for the Bluetooth based apps, which people are saying can't work.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36040470)

Wasn't it you who said that deficits were nothing to worry about?

I'm sure it was you. :scratch:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36040473)

No, they’re not - they don’t work perfectly, but they work quite well.

The centralised Apps worked on Bluetooth as well.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36040483)

Apple doesn't allow applications to have the constant broadcasting ability with Bluetooth. That is the limitation. We don't know what else the Government is moaning about because they've not been clear but given how idiotic they've been over this app I am not especially interested in what they're saying now.