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Pity you have absolutely nothing positive to say, though.

Your constant criticisms and negative comments really do indicate to me that you have not accepted the result and you want the UK to fail.

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 

Give me a convincing reason as to why the major supermarkets in Northern Ireland should put their names to such an important statement if they don't believe it to be correct.

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I don’t dispute that that’s genuinely how they see it. However, they are not party to all the EU’s thinking and their negotiating strategy.

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So where have the EU agreed, via the Joint Committee, that GB supermarkets can freely move goods to NI? The Joint Committee has yet to meet, after the issue was on a list of still unresolved matters.
Although the supermarkets could ship the goods anyway, the question remains as to what action the EU would take if they did.

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If Labour or the LibDems came into power, it wouldn't stop you criticising them but it wouldn't mean you didn't accept the result. :)

I live and work in the UK. I'm not retired with a nice guaranteed pension insulating me from a bad deal. I need BoJo to pull his fingers out and get a great deal with the EU and indeed all the other countries that we trade with.

There are few if any positive things anyone is saying about Brexit right now. All the Leavers I know acknowledge the government is making a pig's ear of negotiations. Even your fellow Berkshire resident has expressed similar views.

My views on Brexit have been clear - I accept it but the government should have delayed the end of the WA as there was insufficient time to get a good deal with the EU and 150 other countries in place by the end of 2020.

When Coronavirus hit the UK, I said it was even more important to delay it so the government could focus on Coronavirus and not end up doing both things badly. You said it could do both and do them well. We've now got one of the worst global death rates, we've suffered the largest recession of all G7 economies, we have no deal yet with the EU and with precious few of the other 150 countries and Scotland wants to leeave the UK. And trading on WTO terms is not yet agreed and is no mere formality.

It's not a great state of affairs, Old Boy.

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That's nonsense, the SNP want to leave the UK, more fool them.

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Source?

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Sadly not nonsense - polls show consistently about 53%-55% in favour.

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If Sainsbury's, Lidl, Asda etc are convinced about something so important then I am happy to take their word without conducting days of research to try and prove the point.

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 

How often are polls accurate? You can only say for definite that the majority of people in Scotland want to leave the UK after a proper vote, and a poll that shows 53% v 55% isn't very convincing imo.

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The key person wrong on Brexit is your goodself via the fantasy trade deals you were promising us, starting with the US in pole position.

I hope and expect we get a free trade deal but that doesn't mean the end of customs checks and delays unfortunately.

I've heard BoJo will take another of his famous "Surrender Strolls" as he did with Leo Varadkar before signing the Withdrawal Agreement. This will see him agree to pretty much everything asked of him by the EU but he will fool his ever-diminishing fanbase that he's got a great deal.

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We shoudn't delude ourselves about polls when they give us inconvenient results. The Brexit vote shows that no referendum win for the status quo can be taken for granted. The performance of the current government with its Brexit negotiations and in tackling Covid 19 makes it no advert for the benefits of the Union.

Scottish independence is a serious threat to the UK and I hope we have a convincing narrative in place for the Union if a referendum happens. But that's another thread. ;)

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Seph, mate, it's not your usual style to denigrate fellow forum members. The public was promised the following:

So, people voted for a campaign that promised there would be a deal.

If we don't get one, BoJo will be defying the will of the people.

I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree on this one, I fear you're easily pleased.

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Some slightly positive news.
https://www.ft.com/content/1270ea8d-...0-798ebceaae2d

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I thought we’d seen the back of people telling leave voters why they voted the way they did. :dozey:

I know what I voted for and I know where I sourced my background information thanks. I don’t need to be told (wrongly) what I thought would happen.

This was not a party election, it was a referendum, and despite the status afforded the biggest campaign group on either side, there was no manifesto produced by either of them. Personally I think the British public is a sufficiently sophisticated electorate to understand the difference between an election manifesto and the possible futures debated in a referendum where, on polling day, the actual question is extremely simple.

I voted to answer a question, I did not vote for any campaign.

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 

Fair point - perhaps I should have phrased it more precisely "So, people voted in the context of a campaign that promised there would be a deal." would be my rephrasing.

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Or perhaps you should stop trying to be a smart jackass.