Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35973316)

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35973311)

Recent examples to support this line and a definition of "they" will assist further discussion.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35973362)

Those preparing the economic forecasts, Andrew. Of course. Do you seriously deny that they have been getting their forecasts wrong? Time and again?

I prefer to live in the real world, and I see a bright future for us all outside of the bureaucratic, undemocratic EU.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35973374)

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...-may-r9wmh0v89

No wonder the Govt. want this legal advice 'kept quiet'. It's out now anyway so they might aswell publish.

Seemed to have been leaked from within the cabinet - surprise, surprise ! (#oilysnakegove). The vultures are circling round TM !

Originally Posted by djfunkdup (Post 35973376)

117-Days 14-Hrs 1-Min and 45 seconds :D:D:D

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35973373)

Provide some evidence and I'll believe you. Not baseless accusations. I prefer to live in the real world of facts and not hearsay.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35973227)

Those who scream about sovereignty do so, until they realise that Parliament is sovereign above all. If Parliament votes instruct the Government to remain, and the Government ignores the will of Parliament in favour of a non-binding advisory referendum we can look forward to a) a general election and b) a Brexit vote in 2019.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35973378)

You might have to reset/suspend that clock at some point ;)

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35973381)

Parliament voted to give this specific decision to the electorate. Parliament subsequently voted to enact the result of the referendum.

So the result referendum is no longer “advisory”

If parliament vote the deal down, which they can do, it doesn’t change the law, and we will still leave in March.

Parliament voting no to the deal is not a vote to remain.

There would have to be a Parliamentary vote on whether to stay in or out. Considering Parliament have already voted to leave ( the result of which I don’t recall being conditional on what type of deal, if any, we ended up with) it would be the greatest betrayal ever seen in modern Western politics.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35973373)

Provide some evidence and I'll believe you. Not baseless accusations. I prefer to live in the real world of facts and not hearsay.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35973391)

How many times should Parliament vote on the deal?

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35973393)

There are not sufficient 'facts' that can be used to prove the point, because we are looking to the future. We only have forecasts based on whatever assumptions people want to put into the mix.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35973297)

And they still keep getting it wrong. Time after time after time. Plenty of evidence for that.

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35973381)

Parliament voted to give this specific decision to the electorate. Parliament subsequently voted to enact the result of the referendum.

So the result referendum is no longer “advisory”

If parliament vote the deal down, which they can do, if it doesn’t change the law, and we will still leave in March.

Parliament voting no to the deal is not yet a vote to remain.

There would have to be a Parliamentary vote on whether to stay in or out. Considering Parliament have already voted to leave ( the result of which I don’t recall being conditional on what type of deal, if any, we ended up with) it would be seen by some asthe greatest betrayal ever seen in modern Western politics.