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i seem to recall pig welfare issues with danish pigs that put the British public off Danish bacon.

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These two statements then contradict each other a bit then.

When the Co-op switched they specifically said it was to support British farmers, there is nothing to say it was down to any quality concerns

http://www.npa-uk.org.uk/NPA_welcome...ish_bacon.html



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Unfortunately more recently it's been going in the opposite direction for some

https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/sourcing...667711.article

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I understand the gammon part but bacon still comes in from the EU, right?

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I try to buy meat from the farmer's market which we used to have the biggest in the UK. But since the council resited it it's been dwindling and cost/effort have meant most meat sellers have now dropped out either just from the market but I know one who is no longer doing retail at all.
It's a shame as quality is usually much better than the major retailers and you can get cuts that the big boys are interested in. Plus you are supporting the producers directly. And I've found prices are often better than the supermarkets for equivalent quality.


(And they do sell bacon - nice dry cured, smoked bacon.)

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Breaking news: Economic growth in the UK will grind to a halt next year with only Russia, hobbled by western sanctions, performing worse among the G20 leading economies, the OECD forecast on Wednesday

https://twitter.com/FinancialTimes/s...65573920333824

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Yes, proceeding as planned and as forecast. Who knew? ;)

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Bacon is one of the fun 'rules of origin' cases where British bacon might not be what it seems. The pork used to make bacon can come from anywhere. Once it is cured, the country of curing is the origin so 'British' bacon might not be made from British pigs.

There has recently been a wave of Swine Fever in Europe so there was a glut of pork on the market as farmers slaughtered their herds before they got infected and respective governments did it for them. If you bacon doesn't specifically say the pork came from British farms, the meat could have come from anywhere..

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Yeah, but I keep on getting told that Johnson got the major calls right. :confused:

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Comparing growth like that is misleading.That is why it is used.:rolleyes:
We've already had previous growth and the others are catching up to a similar overall level.
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What would be the situation if you compared prior to that point to one next year?
EG If X has an increase of 2% first year and 1% the next, and Y has an increase of 1% first year and 2% the next, they are comparable overall. Yet Y has a larger increase in the 2nd year, when looked at in isolation.

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Not sure that playing the OECD victim card works. They don't have it in for the UK.

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So my theoretical example isn't valid?:rolleyes: What's the betting, if the earlier UK figure had been low, but the later one was high, the media would be making the same point as me? It's easy to have high growth, if you're starting from a lower start point.

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I didn't give it any attention but happy to if you insist.

I don't want to be too harsh but it's hard to sugarcoat this one. Without real life data which exists, it's just a fantasy post.

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Are you saying that my theoretical example doesn't have a real life equivalent? Ridiculously unlikely in the extreme.
As I pointed out, the UK was 2nd in the G7 at one point. That means 5 other countries were lower. If any of them are now higher, that would be a real life example of my point.

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A sensible comparison would be a graph of the G7 GDP per country from Feb 2020 to Feb 2022.
Predictions for 2023 are obviously just that and I hope they are wrong for the UK. But labour shortages are causing inflation and we are also less self-sufficient in energy than many of our peers so the predictions have a robust basis.

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Two areas of UK are predicted to grow, London and N Ireland...