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mersey70 10-03-2011 14:15

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35190546)
What all ad revenue? I don't see any figures being mentioned anywhere. All it says is:

“It incorporates targeted VOD advertising, so ads can be linked to relevant shows that are being watched,” he said, adding that the apps will provide a “showcase area” for major brands.

VOD advertising is being done on the existing platform, so not TiVo specific.

'the apps will provide a “showcase area” for major brands' was the part that seemed a bit wooly to me, what does it mean.

BenMcr 10-03-2011 14:17

Re: TiVo
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35190551)
They don't get paid for ads then ? These won't increase with TIVO meaning more revenue ? Try taking those red and white tinted VM specs off for a day LOL :D

Where does it say that any revenue from ads would cover completely all TiVo running costs? Link or quote please

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35190554)
'the apps will provide a “showcase area” for major brands' was the part that seemed a bit wooly to me, what does it mean.

Maybe the same you get the 'Red Button' apps, or the Green 'see more' things on Sky

mersey70 10-03-2011 14:18

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35190556)
Where does it say that any revenue from ads would cover completely all TiVo running costs? Link or quote please

---------- Post added at 13:17 ---------- Previous post was at 13:16 ----------

Maybe the same you get the 'Red Button' apps on Sky for adverts?

Ah, I see.

Sky axed that last year though.

howardmicks 10-03-2011 14:22

Re: TiVo
 
Quick question for you tivo guys if i record 2 programs at say 9-10pm and add padding and have a program programmed in for 10.00pm will it automatically stop the padding to start recording the 10pm program or will i miss the start because of padding

muppetman11 10-03-2011 14:24

Re: TiVo
 
Another big plus for Sky , imagine the comparison list now once Tivo is the only PVR Price to record on Sky free, price to record on VM 3.00.

BenMcr 10-03-2011 14:31

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35190563)
Another big plus for Sky , imagine the comparison list now once Tivo is the only PVR Price to record on Sky free, price to record on VM 3.00.

How about

Cost of HD on Sky £10.75
Cost of HD on Virgin Free

Total cost of Sky+HD £29.75 (1 Mix + HD)
Total cost of TiVo £27.50 (XL + TiVo)

devilincarnate 10-03-2011 14:32

Re: TiVo
 
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Originally Posted by Harryn9000 (Post 35190552)
well i'm a happy man now tivo free for a year from the 22nd of march bit of advice it ppl who are on higher packages that are getting selected first. women who phoned confirmed it this was the case.

Congratulations:D:D I bet you are as happy as a pig in muck:p::D:D

pesty 10-03-2011 14:35

Re: TiVo
 
Just spoken to a guy from virgin, he has the tivo box but said it's not worth having just yet as he's experiencing many niggling problems, and he agreed the SD channels aren't so good as the v+HD boxes. He reckons they have brought it out a tad too early and should have held off a few more months.

muppetman11 10-03-2011 14:35

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35190567)
How about

Cost of HD on Sky £10.75
Cost of HD on Virgin Free

How about sky premium HD subs 7.00 TIVO 3.00 totalling 10.00

Sky 50 plus HD
VM 29

We could go on all day.

My question I want you to answer is this what do most people take a PVR for ?

passingbat 10-03-2011 14:35

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35190561)
Quick question for you tivo guys if i record 2 programs at say 9-10pm and add padding and have a program programmed in for 10.00pm will it automatically stop the padding to start recording the 10pm program or will i miss the start because of padding

Assuming this is all done on one tuner, as I understnd it, you will miss the start as it will record the padding on the previous programme, assuming both shows are equal priority.

BenMcr 10-03-2011 14:39

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35190570)
My question I want you to answer is this what do most people take a PVR for ?

My question to you is, why do you keep on insisting the £3 is purely just for recording. It covers the whole TiVo service.

BTW Sky don't do free recording, they just now offer it as part of the subscription costs, same as Virgin currently do with V+ on XL

When Sky+ was new, then it had a service fee. The same applied when V+ was new (and still does for M to L), and just as TiVo is new now.

howardmicks 10-03-2011 14:41

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35190571)
Assuming this is all done on one tuner, as I understnd it, you will miss the start as it will record the padding on the previous programme, assuming both shows are equal priority.

Thanks for that sounds like i will after risk programs without padding in that case,Was hoping it would cancel the padding and switch to next program like v+ box

muppetman11 10-03-2011 14:44

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35190574)
My question to you is, why do you keep on insisting the £3 is purely just for recording. It covers the whole TiVo service.

Ben yet again you evaded answering my question to which the answer was RECORD the average Joe Bloggs couldn't care less after recording and series linking . If the TIVO charge is 3.00 to VIP/XL what will it be for lower tiers even more , pushing many of them over to Sky. Tell me another company what charges a subscriber a monthly fee for a PVR.

passingbat 10-03-2011 14:49

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35190577)
Thanks for that sounds like i will after risk programs without padding in that case,Was hoping it would cancel the padding and switch to next program like v+ box

That's my initial plan when I get tivo, but I will experiment. The fact that there are 3 recordable tuners should reduce the problms with adding padding though.

If the September update has the V+ method of padding, that would solve the poblem, but no one has said wheather it will. Maybe they aren't allowed to?

Perfect Choice 10-03-2011 14:51

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35190577)
Thanks for that sounds like i will after risk programs without padding in that case,Was hoping it would cancel the padding and switch to next program like v+ box

Agree, you want padding on the previous programme being recorded to be ignored if another programme recording needs the tuner to start when scheduled.

The only point in padding is to make sure you capture the end of a programme just in case it is delayed slightly. Most of the time it is not relevant and you could up cutting off the start of another recording since you left end of recording on just in case there was a delay.

Not good I must say as you don't win with or without padding, definitely a step backwards since you are having to use priority to decide if padding is cancelled in effect by making the next recording a higher priority. I don't think priority of recording should decide this at all, it should be recording policy i.e allow padding if tuner is not needed for another recording, V+ had this exactly right and Tivo needs to match in this September patch update.


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