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Damien 16-09-2021 21:28

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Do we think GB News is done for now? Struggling as it is but if they have another rival going after the same audience then it'll be some achievement to pull it off. Only advantage they have for now is that talkTV won't be on air until the new year.

Sephiroth 16-09-2021 21:44

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36093321)
Do we think GB News is done for now? Struggling as it is but if they have another rival going after the same audience then it'll be some achievement to pull it off. Only advantage they have for now is that talkTV won't be on air until the new year.

Yeah - done for imo because they are not in a good place.

It might even happen that Murdoch offers Farage a more lucrative slot.


Damien 16-09-2021 22:35

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I think they might follow the LBC path and not be explicitly 'right-wing' but instead simply provocative and therefore also have left-wing hosts so long as they push the right buttons to get reactions from guests and the audience. Think of James O'Brien on LBC. I am sure they could find others. I.E They make 'Let's rejoin the EU' a discussion point, angry people phone in, call them idiots, get supportive calls, more calls to argue with those callers and away you go. Easy views.

1andrew1 16-09-2021 23:09

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I think with their News UK heritage, the new channel will also focus on sport and celebrities. Add in Dow Jones financial content and you have a far broader mix than GB News's focus on commentators.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36093325)
Yeah - done for imo because they are not in a good place.

It might even happen that Murdoch offers Farage a more lucrative slot.


Agreed on both counts.

jfman 17-09-2021 10:39

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The rat on question time sitting on the fence on everything presumably to keep his employment opportunities open.

It’s for others to make their own judgements. What weasel worded nonsense. In the words of the great Roy Walker “say what you see”.

Chris 17-09-2021 10:57

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36093384)
The rat on question time sitting on the fence on everything presumably to keep his employment opportunities open.

It’s for others to make their own judgements. What weasel worded nonsense. In the words of the great Roy Walker “say what you see”.

Why should he? He’s a private citizen working in an industry where you frequently have to produce copy from a perspective that reflects the editorial line even if it doesn’t perfectly align with your own. He doesn’t owe you or anyone else an explanation and for you to describe him in these terms for refusing to indulge you is just a little unhinged. You seem to have him confused with a politician you elected to serve your interests, though frankly even in that case your mode of expression would be extreme.

Maggy 17-09-2021 11:00

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36093386)
Why should he? He’s a private citizen working in an industry where you frequently have to produce copy from a perspective that reflects the editorial line even if it doesn’t perfectly align with your own. He doesn’t owe you or anyone else an explanation and for you to describe him in these terms for refusing to indulge you is just a little unhinged. You seem to have him confused with a politician you elected to serve your interests, though frankly even in that case your mode of expression would be extreme.

:clap:

jfman 17-09-2021 11:34

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36093386)
Why should he? He’s a private citizen working in an industry where you frequently have to produce copy from a perspective that reflects the editorial line even if it doesn’t perfectly align with your own. He doesn’t owe you or anyone else an explanation and for you to describe him in these terms for refusing to indulge you is just a little unhinged. You seem to have him confused with a politician you elected to serve your interests, though frankly even in that case your mode of expression would be extreme.

It only shows him up as spineless.

He’s offered his own opinions on many political issues from the south of France, regardless of apparent journalistic impartiality you portray.

I don’t consider it particularly unhinged to call him out for what he is. A rat deserting a sinking ship.

He does indeed have the right to say nothing - it only seems odd to go onto Question Time to not answer the most obvious pertinent questions.

BenMcr 17-09-2021 11:46

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36093388)
It only shows him up as spineless.

He’s offered his own opinions on many political issues from the south of France, regardless of apparent journalistic impartiality you portray.

I don’t consider it particularly unhinged to call him out for what he is. A rat deserting a sinking ship.

He does indeed have the right to say nothing - it only seems odd to go onto Question Time to not answer the most obvious pertinent questions.

Wasn't one of the aims of GB News was to stand up to 'cancel culture'?

Surely you're not now suggesting the BBC cancel him from appearing to express his opinions?

jfman 17-09-2021 11:59

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Wasn't one of the aims of GB News was to stand up to 'cancel culture'?

Surely you're not now suggesting the BBC cancel him from appearing to express his opinions?

I’m at a loss is he this benign impartial journalist entitled to private opinions, or is he a public figure of standing in the media who wants to throw his opinions out there and indeed seek to influence public discourse by doing so?

I’m a rational capitalist, I don’t see why the public sector should step in and supplement his income following a failed venture.

Damien 17-09-2021 13:05

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36093386)
Why should he? He’s a private citizen working in an industry where you frequently have to produce copy from a perspective that reflects the editorial line even if it doesn’t perfectly align with your own. He doesn’t owe you or anyone else an explanation and for you to describe him in these terms for refusing to indulge you is just a little unhinged. You seem to have him confused with a politician you elected to serve your interests, though frankly even in that case your mode of expression would be extreme.

I would be interested to hear why he left though. I would imagine given he was effectively leading the channel's set-up he had a significant say in the editorial line until he, reportedly, fell out over that direction with the other senior people there.

Neil himself was promoting this channel as an antidote to the 'woke' media and had a segment called 'Woke Watch' so I'll be interested to hear where he intended the channel to go.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36093391)
I’m a rational capitalist, I don’t see why the public sector should step in and supplement his income following a failed venture.

They're employing him to perform a task he is good at. Personally, I think he should have stayed the BBC in the first place.

Mick 17-09-2021 16:11

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36093397)
I would be interested to hear why he left though. I would imagine given he was effectively leading the channel's set-up he had a significant say in the editorial line until he, reportedly, fell out over that direction with the other senior people there.

Neil himself was promoting this channel as an antidote to the 'woke' media and had a segment called 'Woke Watch' so I'll be interested to hear where he intended the channel to go.

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They're employing him to perform a task he is good at. Personally, I think he should have stayed the BBC in the first place.

Well, I don't think he will be heading off to News UK any time soon, not given what he said about Fox News last night on Question Time, he also revealed he was in a minority of one, regarding GB News direction.


Damien 17-09-2021 18:09

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I would be interested to see what direction he envisioned though? Because to me it isn’t that different. They might be leaning into the culture war more heavily now but he made a big point of taking on ‘wokeness’ which is pretty similar.

If you want Neil on the BBC he generally gives all politicians a hard time so unless he was told he has to give certain guests an easier time I can’t think what his issue was.

Sephiroth 17-09-2021 18:31

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His principals possibly didn't appreciate Neil's self-importance. That was his problem at the BBC at the time of the general election.

Mick 17-09-2021 18:52

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LATEST: GB News issues statement on last nights QT:

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1/2 During last night’s BBC Question Time, a number of demonstrably untrue remarks were made about GB News. We stand for fair debate, tolerance, free speech and factual journalism. There are always more than two sides to any story and we believe in listening to all of them

2/2 We look forward to welcoming Andrew Neil back on GB News on Monday for his regular appearance.
Basically someone on the panel says the channel is a capture of bigotry. Must be some alternate reality they were talking about.


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