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TheDaddy 23-08-2021 22:42
Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36090719)
I think he would have. He is the one who made the deal. He wanted to withdraw sooner and he was slamming Biden when he delayed it a few months.

But at the end of the day it doesn't matter because Trump isn't in charge. The Taliban had already broken the deal so there was no requirement for the Americans to abide by it.

So what I think Trump would have done doesn't matter. Biden is responsible.
I heard some guy called Wolfe I think it was say Trump kept pushing to withdraw and everytime he did the generals would tell him not now and put a power point on knowing donny couldn't follow them and he'd storm off, if only it all wasn't so important it must have been hilarious times in the white House for the trump years, they should've just told Biden they'd done it and hope he'd forget, he'd forget who told him anyway so what's the problem

Dude111 24-08-2021 07:54
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
I don’t think Trump would have allowed this Afghanistan take over so easily. Biden pulled the plug so fast, gear and military equipment left on the field.
Yes Donny wanted to get out also but he knew it would be a shit storm and didnt want that...

1andrew1 24-08-2021 10:13
Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36090735)
Yes Donny wanted to get out also but he knew it would be a shit storm and didnt want that...
That's why he let Biden win so he can return triumphant in 2024 letting Biden take a hit for Afghanistan and the Republicans will pick up more seats in the 2022 Senate elections too. ;)

tweetiepooh 24-08-2021 11:11
Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Do you not think with Trump's attitude and swagger he may not have seen what the Taliban was up to and redeployed especially if popular with enough of the electorate? Suddenly he becomes "the hero" keeping people safe from the threat of extremists. After all know the sacrifices of our troops is shown in focus of the alternative.

1andrew1 24-08-2021 11:16
Re: US President Joe Biden
 
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36090755)
Do you not think with Trump's attitude and swagger he may not have seen what the Taliban was up to and redeployed especially if popular with enough of the electorate? Suddenly he becomes "the hero" keeping people safe from the threat of extremists. After all know the sacrifices of our troops is shown in focus of the alternative.
No. Because, "America first".

Pierre 24-08-2021 12:08
Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36090756)
No. Because, "America first".
You obviously don't understand the Donald then. It is always "Donald First"

Maggy 24-08-2021 12:13
Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36090747)
That's why he let Biden win so he can return triumphant in 2024 letting Biden take a hit for Afghanistan and the Republicans will pick up more seats in the 2022 Senate elections too. ;)
Or the US voters may actually like the fact that they are out of Afghanistan and Biden won’t take the hit.

Carth 24-08-2021 14:07
Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36090763)
Or the US voters may actually like the fact that they are out of Afghanistan and Biden won’t take the hit.
I believe there was certainly a loud shout for it

Dude111 24-08-2021 22:48
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1
That's why he let Biden win so he can return triumphant in 2024 letting Biden take a hit for Afghanistan and the Republicans will pick up more seats in the 2022 Senate elections too. ;)
Hmmmm that kinda makes sense really......

TheDaddy 25-08-2021 02:29
Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36090851)
Hmmmm that kinda makes sense really......
Does it?....

heero_yuy 25-08-2021 09:10
Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Quote:
Quote from USA Today: After two decades of combat, Americans by more than 2-1 say the war in Afghanistan, launched in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, wasn't worth it. In a new USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll, 3 of 4 predict the Taliban-led country will once again become a haven for terrorists targeting the United States.

For President Joe Biden, the cost of the war's chaotic end has been steep. His overall job approval rating now stands at 41% who approve versus 55% who disapprove – a big drop in the closely watched barometer of political health. Until last week, national polls generally showed his approval rating above 50%.

Now, while he has held the backing of 87% of Democrats, only 32% of independents say he's doing a good job.
Doesn't look like Afghanistan is playing well with the public for Joe.

Damien 25-08-2021 18:39
Re: US President Joe Biden
 
The Delta variant is getting out of control there as well, worse than here was. Their vaccination rate slowed as they have a lot more anti-vaxxers and people intentionally making a point about not taking any precautions.

1andrew1 25-08-2021 19:13
Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36090921)
The Delta variant is getting out of control there as well, worse than here was. Their vaccination rate slowed as they have a lot more anti-vaxxers and people intentionally making a point about not taking any precautions.
Even Trump was shouted down when he recently advocated vaccination at his Alabama rally so it seems a bit of an uphill battle there. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-covid-vaccine
Interesting to see some US companies like United Airlines responding by mandating vaccinations.

Dude111 26-08-2021 09:24
I have listened to his speeches and he bows down to the Taliban,lets them tell us what the US is going to do rather than being the other way around.

He is only giving them legitimacy. He believes that Americans are being allowed to enter the airport in Kabul (which conflicts data from people on the ground). These people have a dark history,especially towards Christians and women. But he trusts them,why?


EDIT:

Ahhhh I just realised why... They promised him ice cream!! (His favourite flavour: Strawberry)

papa smurf 26-08-2021 09:38
Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
You find that people with dementia are very trusting of others and make bad decisions.


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