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downquark1 14-06-2020 09:10

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Someone google "uk prime ministers" and tell me if you see anything odd.

jfman 14-06-2020 09:18

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36039721)
Someone google "uk prime ministers" and tell me if you see anything odd.

No picture of Churchill.

I’m hoping that’s Boris sporting a lockdown haircut in his picture as well. :)

Damien 14-06-2020 10:14

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Something a bit weird with the Churchill entry as well. They have the artistic period he was born in listed. They're not pulling though the picture from Wikipedia which is why it's not coming up the thumbnails.

I think the lack of picture is something a bit screwy is happening with their algorithm and all the news items coming out.

Damien 14-06-2020 10:17

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36039715)
You seem fascinated by Nazi Salutes .... :erm:

Of course, if people sharing the same brain cell had not decided to loot and dump a statue in Bristol last week, and then attack and deface others, no one would feel the need to defend any other statues.

That's pretty unfair. I don't see how I am fascinated by them? I mentioned them. Specifically the irony of claiming to defend the Cenotaph and Churchill statue whilst doing them.

Of course that's because they went there for an aggravated punch-up with the police rather than any ideological cause.

Hugh 14-06-2020 10:23

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36039717)
If people are going to resist arrest aggressively and be "armed", what do they expect?:rolleyes:
Link

Are the police just expected to let them go? It seems so.:mad:

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The thing about Nazi salutes, is that they should also be seen as calling the other side a Nazi. Which side is suppressing free speech and opinion, and is Socialist?

https://media1.tenor.com/images/1a59...itemid=9628866

Maggy 14-06-2020 10:37

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36039728)
That's pretty unfair. I don't see how I am fascinated by them? I mentioned them. Specifically the irony of claiming to defend the Cenotaph and Churchill statue whilst doing them.

Of course that's because they went there for an aggravated punch-up with the police rather than any ideological cause.

:tu:

Hugh 14-06-2020 10:50

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Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36039721)
Someone google "uk prime ministers" and tell me if you see anything odd.


papa smurf 14-06-2020 10:57

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Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36039721)
Someone google "uk prime ministers" and tell me if you see anything odd.

There will be a short interlude while history is being rewritten,please stay calm. The world will be a warmer fluffier place to live in once we are finished;)

Carth 14-06-2020 11:07

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36039737)
There will be a short interlude while history is being rewritten,please stay calm. The world will be a warmer fluffier place to live in once we are finished;)


Excellent news, warm & fluffy seems perfect :tu:


I think there may be a Welsh joke in there somewhere ;)

Hugh 14-06-2020 11:43

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36039644)
Not sure I saw any 'Nazi salutes' in those clips Hugh, maybe it's the thought that counts eh ;)

You’re probably right - they probably couldn’t get a signal for their Uber app, so were trying to flag down a taxi.

Probably...

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36039737)
There will be a short interlude while history is being rewritten,please stay calm. The world will be a warmer fluffier place to live in once we are finished;)

The irony of that statement...

The version of history that is displayed by those statues of people like Colston is a revisionist version anyway, missing out the embarrassing parts like his fortune was based on selling people.

Maggy 14-06-2020 11:59

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
The problem now seems to be that we are arguing about statues and not about actually addressing the ways to deal with racial discrimination here and in THIS time.

pip08456 14-06-2020 12:40

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Protesters demand removal of Mahatma Gandhi statue in England.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/13/protes...ue-in-england/

Hom3r 14-06-2020 13:00

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one piece of irony.


Some of these's protesters are wearing clothing made in sweat shops in modern day slavery.

Maggy 14-06-2020 13:21

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This is the problem with the internet.Everything eventually ends up at whataboutism.:rolleyes:

downquark1 14-06-2020 14:52

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36039744)
The problem now seems to be that we are arguing about statues and not about actually addressing the ways to deal with racial discrimination here and in THIS time.

The argument has been deliberately unmoored from reality. The UK police is not the US police and have little in way of similarity so they are suddenly under unfair scrutiny. People generally do protest about police brutality but nobody really cares about the statues of 18th century philanthropists except critical race theorists who want to undo the enlightenment.

In the US the officer has been charged with second degree murder and the other police with accessory to murder. Any realistic reform would certainly be taken seriously (such as perhaps mandatory body cameras) however they are just arguing about abolishing the police all together which is naturally provocative to anyone who isn't an anarchist.


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