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denphone 09-10-2020 10:36

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36053140)
What kind of stupid would you say he was then?

l will let you answer that given you are the great political sage of this forum.;)

OLD BOY 11-10-2020 17:38

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36053138)
Keir Starmer might be a good many things to different people but one thing he is not is politically stupid.

That’s true, Den. It’s a shame he’s so boring, though, which will be a major handicap at election time.

Mr K 11-10-2020 20:46

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36053320)
That’s true, Den. It’s a shame he’s so boring, though, which will be a major handicap at election time.

Boring wins over incompetence OB. As it will in the US shortly.

1andrew1 11-10-2020 21:20

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36053341)
Boring wins over incompetence OB. As it will in the US shortly.

Exactly. I prefer my clowns to be in the circus ring, not in power.

papa smurf 11-10-2020 21:23

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Keir Starmer mocked for 'captain indecision' Covid dithering: 'Labour has NO leadership'


KEIR STARMER has been labelled "Captain Indecision" by a senior Tory over his position on the 10pm curfew imposed by Boris Johnson's Government.

Amanda Milling, MP and Chair of the Conservatives, shared a tweet from the party mocking Labour for taking three different positions on Covid in the last week. The original tweet read: “Keir Starmer & Labour have had 3 positions on the 10pm curfew all in a single week: They’ve supported it. They’ve opposed it. Now they’re not sure.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/13...9-Labour-party

denphone 11-10-2020 21:40

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36053349)
Keir Starmer mocked for 'captain indecision' Covid dithering: 'Labour has NO leadership'


KEIR STARMER has been labelled "Captain Indecision" by a senior Tory over his position on the 10pm curfew imposed by Boris Johnson's Government.

Amanda Milling, MP and Chair of the Conservatives, shared a tweet from the party mocking Labour for taking three different positions on Covid in the last week. The original tweet read: “Keir Starmer & Labour have had 3 positions on the 10pm curfew all in a single week: They’ve supported it. They’ve opposed it. Now they’re not sure.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/13...9-Labour-party

That's a pretty great irony given this government has been consistently incompetent , indecisive and made countless U-turns in the last 6 months.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/the-n...oken-promises/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9568956.html

Sephiroth 11-10-2020 22:03

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
They're all the same. Politicians only interested in themselves and power.

We poor citizens basically have a choice between red tinges and blue tinges and that's always been the case. After all, people have to elect someone.



Damien 11-10-2020 22:25

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36053354)
They're all the same. Politicians only interested in themselves and power.

We poor citizens basically have a choice between red tinges and blue tinges and that's always been the case. After all, people have to elect someone.



We the public encourge this behaviour though. How many times on this very forum do we get people picking up the batton of their preferred politician despite the fact we likely have more in common with each other than we do with Starmer, Johnson or Farage? How many times do we regurgitate some focus-group tested talking points one of them of come up with?

Politicans get away with so much just by convincing us they're on 'our' side against those who are not. Families, friends and communities at each others throats as a result when really they're not that far apart.

Sephiroth 11-10-2020 22:42

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36053355)
We the public encourge this behaviour though. How many times on this very forum do we get people picking up the batton of their preferred politician despite the fact we likely have more in common with each other than we do with Starmer, Johnson or Farage? How many times do we regurgitate some focus-group tested talking points one of them of come up with?

Politicans get away with so much just by convincing us they're on 'our' side against those who are not. Families, friends and communities at each others throats as a result when really they're not that far apart.

Understood - but my preferred politician is Sir John Redwood and I'm a great Farage fan - single issue not selfish for power.

jfman 11-10-2020 22:54

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36053349)
Keir Starmer mocked for 'captain indecision' Covid dithering: 'Labour has NO leadership'

KEIR STARMER has been labelled "Captain Indecision" by a senior Tory over his position on the 10pm curfew imposed by Boris Johnson's Government.

Amanda Milling, MP and Chair of the Conservatives, shared a tweet from the party mocking Labour for taking three different positions on Covid in the last week. The original tweet read: “Keir Starmer & Labour have had 3 positions on the 10pm curfew all in a single week: They’ve supported it. They’ve opposed it. Now they’re not sure.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/13...9-Labour-party

The Express begging for Starmer to oppose the Government on Covid. No point. Why intervene when your opponent is making mistakes?

It's a long way to 2024. Cameron was mocked for years for not having policies as opposition leader. No point in showing your hand now.

papa smurf 16-10-2020 08:22

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Starmer humiliated: Seven frontbenchers quit as 34 Labour MPs ignore Keir's orders on vote

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...s-vote-against


Nice to see who's in charge these days.:)

Damien 16-10-2020 09:35

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
They're the last remaining Corbyn supporters on the front bench I think.

Not sure if he intentionally was provoking them to quit on an issue that not only works well for him but during a time few people are paying attention. Or if it was not what he wanted.

Hugh 16-10-2020 09:59

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36053972)
Starmer humiliated: Seven frontbenchers quit as 34 Labour MPs ignore Keir's orders on vote

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...s-vote-against


Nice to see who's in charge these days.:)

Two frontbenchers quit - Parliamentary Private Secretaries are not frontbenchers...

1andrew1 16-10-2020 09:59

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36053982)
They're the last remaining Corbyn supporters on the front bench I think.

Not sure if he intentionally was provoking them to quit on an issue that not only works well for him but during a time few people are paying attention. Or if it was not what he wanted.

Sensible strategy which works for all concerned. Corbynites can claim to their supporters they took the moral high ground so less likely to cause Starmer future trouble as a dignified exit. Whilst Starmer gets his people in place easily.

papa smurf 28-10-2020 08:39

Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Starmer does u turn

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/130396...on-not-see-me/


















and runs down cyclist.


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