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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

Rob Porter, Trump’s staff secretary has resigned after ex-wives Colbie Holderness and Jennifer Willoughby told the Daily Mail that he had been abusive during their marriages. The paper also published photos of Ms Holderness with a black eye.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...hoked-her.html
https://www.fox47news.com/news/natio...se-accusations

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35935959)

Can't really see much to that story unless there is more information. The FBI director briefing the President is not a big deal, even Trump asking Corney wasn't the issue with the Russia Probe, it's if Obama tried to then intervene in an active investigation there will be an issue.

Yes, but you’re forgetting, President Obama vouched in a TV interview that he does not interefere in FBI Investigations or talk to FBI Directors. However, those disgraced FBI Agents Page and Strzok are sending each other texts, one of them sent in Sept 2016 says, ‘POTUS wants to know everything we are doing’

So did he tell a blatant lie in this interview?

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I can’t watch the video at the moment but if he did say he doesn’t talk to FBI directors that’s clearly not true. He said he’s talked to Corney before. However talking to them isn’t a big deal, trying to obstruct or interfere with an investigation is.

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Although I should also point out that we don’t know if the FBI agent was telling the full story either, could have been showing off to his mistress. This isn’t a text from Obama or even Corney so it is third/forty hand.

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The text messages discovered by OIG, had Hillary won, would never have seen the light of day...

It's important to remember that these FBI Agents are high level Agents with significant roles, they would have had regular briefings with the Directors, so I doubt they would joke or show off in a text and text each other and say 'potus wants to know everything we're doing' especially when follow up texts said Strzok was filling in talking points at the request of Comey for President Obama.

Meanwhile... in other news. Yesterday, Senator Ron Johnson, Chairman of the Committee of Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs released an Interim report on Secretary Clintons Email scandal and the investigation of it, with references to the Trump Presidency. The report concludes:-

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We should all recognize the harm done to our rule of law when crimes go unpunished because government officials look the other way for the wealthy, famous, or powerful. Americans rightly expect a single and impartial system of justice for all, not one for the well-connected and a separate one for everyone else.

The information available to the Committee at this time raises serious questions about how the FBI applied the rule of law in its investigation of classified information on Secretary Clinton’s private email server. We know that:

• The FBI did not use a grand jury to compel testimony and obtain the vast majority of evidence, choosing instead to offer immunity deals and allow fact witnesses to join key interviews.

• There were substantial edits to Director Comey’s public statement that served to downplay the severity of Secretary Clinton’s actions, and that the first draft of the memo was distributed for editing two months before key witnesses were interviewed.

• Director Comey stated that he had not consulted with the Justice Department or White House, when text messages suggest otherwise. We have text messages in which two key investigators discuss an “insurance policy” against the “risk” of a Trump presidency, and “OUR task.”

• Messages discuss “unfinished business,” “an investigation leading to impeachment,” and “my gut sense and concern there’s no big there there.”

• Senior FBI officials—likely including Deputy Director McCabe— knew about newly discovered emails on a laptop belonging to Anthony Weiner for almost a month before Director Comey notified Congress.

• Over the period of at least four months, the FBI did not recover five months’ worth of text messages requested by DOJ OIG and two Senate committees; however, when pressed, DOJ OIG was able to recover missing texts in less than one week.

Taken together, this information warrants further inquiry. While some may discount the investigation for political reasons, we all have a great interest in ensuring the public has confidence in the integrity and independence of the FBI, the preeminent law enforcement agency in the world. Unlike prosecutors or inspectors general, the primary goal of congressional oversight is full transparency in order to promote public awareness and confidence in federal agencies. For these reasons, our important work will continue.

I have attached the full report here.

Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35936057)

The message coming out is that the FBI agents were texting about Russian interference, not about Hillary, as the text was sent on the 2nd September, and the Hillary investigation had been closed months before; also, it was only a couple of days before Obama confronted Russian President Vladimir Putin over Russia's meddling in the presidential election.

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecur...ce-not-clinton

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From Trump-appointed DHS Chief of Cybersecurity.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ele...m_npd_nn_tw_ma

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The U.S. official in charge of protecting American elections from hacking says the Russians successfully penetrated the voter registration rolls of several U.S. states prior to the 2016 presidential election.

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That is bullshit as it was said many times over by other intelligence agencies that voter machines were NOT hacked, even Comey testified to this effect that voter tallies were not altered by the Russians. It's just more false narratives to scupper the real story which is DNC/Hillary campaign collusion with Russia with the dossier.

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35936144)

Hugh said voter registration rolls, not machines. I.E They could get lists of who is eligible to vote, party registration and address. Stuff like that.

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I am reading this wrong actually, this was prior to U.S Election 2016, which means elections prior to that year.

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Looks like the Republican Party is coming to terms with this issue.

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George W Bush has said “there’s pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled” in the US election that saw Donald Trump become President.
The former President also warned that Russia’s Vladimir Putin “is zero-sum. He can’t think, ‘How can we both win?’ He only thinks, ‘How do I win, you lose?’”
Russia has denied trying to influence the November 2016 vote but US intelligence agencies concluded it had.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8200206.html

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Former President Bush has an axe to grind with Trump, he prevented his little brother, Jeb Bush becoming the Republican Nominee for President in 2016.

Here's the real truth, Bush doesn't have a pissing clue and he has no room to talk when it comes to scandals, especially when WMD were NOT found that led to the illegal Iraq War during his presidential tenure.

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Latest: Trump blocks release of Schiff Memo. Sends it back to HPSCI for revisions.

It appears Democrat Minority Intel Committee member Adam Schiff, included Sources and Methods and other Classified material, in his memo on purpose, knowing full well Trump would block it or insist on redactions. The GOP Memo did not have Sources and Methods in theirs, yet Schiff was protesting its release just last week, claiming national security issues and he goes include classified sources in his memo, the guy is a plank. :rolleyes:

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What a shame the only information that can come out about this warrant is from the Republicans.

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I want to see Dem memo too. But Schiff knew what he was doing. Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein and Director Wray, reviewed it with President and Schiff has included sources and Methods and names of people in the footnotes that could compromise their safety. GOP Memo did not have this same information.

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35936363)

I wonder why the entire Intel Committee, including Republicans, voted to release it then?

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35936366)

Actually, they said that portions of the Democratic memo would raise national security or law enforcement concerns if released publicly, nothing about compromising safety.

They also had concerns about the Republican memo, but that got released by Trump.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35936364)

What a shame the only information that can come out about this warrant is from the Republicans.

You're right. Trump seems to be politicising the security services, which is no good thing.