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Osem 14-06-2017 16:57

Re: The 2017 General Election
 
It seems Farron might be in a bit of bother as Brian Paddick has resigned:

Quote:

I've resigned as @LibDems Shadow Home Secretary over concerns about the leader's views on various issues that were highlighted during GE17.
https://order-order.com/2017/06/14/f...coup-underway/

Julian 14-06-2017 18:48

Re: The 2017 General Election
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40281300.
Farron has resigned

Paul 14-06-2017 18:56

Re: The 2017 General Election
 
Yep, was just about to post the same link, Tim Farron has quit as Lib Dem leader.

Damien 14-06-2017 19:46

Re: The 2017 General Election
 
Yup. Should have done better with the General Election although it's easy in retrospect to say they were wrong to focus on Brexit.

He never properly articulated how he resolved the conflict between his faith and his politics. Personally I think it's liberal to vote to extend the rights of others irrespective of your own faith, liberalism isn't about making everyone have the same views not imposing those views on others. There was a time when it would be considered wrong for an atheist to be the leader of one of the main parties, as that becomes less bizarre we shouldn't flip it around and make it hard for someone religion to be so.

But he kept dodging the question hoping it would go away and in the end people are entitled to object to that and use their vote accordingly.

Osem 14-06-2017 20:00

Re: The 2017 General Election
 
Maybe they'll bring back Paddy Pants Down to restore a bit of pride in the party... :D

Damien 14-06-2017 20:28

Re: The 2017 General Election
 
Jo Swinson probably, hope it isn't Cable.

denphone 14-06-2017 20:57

Re: The 2017 General Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian (Post 35903379)

No surprise there given his hypocritical stance on several things.

pip08456 14-06-2017 22:03

Re: The 2017 General Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35903384)
Yup. Should have done better with the General Election although it's easy in retrospect to say they were wrong to focus on Brexit.

He never properly articulated how he resolved the conflict between his faith and his politics. Personally I think it's liberal to vote to extend the rights of others irrespective of your own faith, liberalism isn't about making everyone have the same views not imposing those views on others. There was a time when it would be considered wrong for an atheist to be the leader of one of the main parties, as that becomes less bizarre we shouldn't flip it around and make it hard for someone religion to be so.

But he kept dodging the question hoping it would go away and in the end people are entitled to object to that and use their vote accordingly.

Agrred especially when they had Jeremy (bunny) Thorpe as leader in the 70's. He didn't want to force his views on anybody, just wanted all treated as equal no matter what sexual orientation etc. I still think he may have been the best leader they've had.

Jimmy-J 14-06-2017 22:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35903405)
Agrred especially when they had Jeremy (bunny) Thorpe as leader in the 70's. He didn't want to force his views on anybody, just wanted all treated as equal no matter what sexual orientation etc. I still think he may have been the best leader they've had.

I remember the, "how do you get 3 liberals on a bar stool?" taunt. :D

pip08456 14-06-2017 22:41

Re: The 2017 General Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy-J (Post 35903409)
I remember the, "how do you get 3 liberals on a bar stool?" taunt. :D

As do I but society was different then, thankfully we have evolved except for Faron it seems.

Although I'm "straight" I have many friends in the LGBT community and have for several years. I have no problem with them they are still my friends.

In fact the most recent one I met (about 5 yrs ago) who I still have a drink and a natter with was surprised when I answered his "You do realise I'm Gay" statement with "Are you a good person or not if so I don't give a ****!"

We've been good friends ever since.

I take people as I find them, not by their sexual orientation, that's none of my business.

Hugh 14-06-2017 22:51

Re: The 2017 General Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35903410)
As do I but society was different then, thankfully we have evolved except for Faron it seems.

Although I'm "straight" I have many friends in the LGBT community and have for several years. I have no problem with them they are still my friends.

In fact the most recent one I met (about 5 yrs ago) who I still have a drink and a natter with was surprised when I answered his "You do realise I'm Gay" statement with "Are you a good person or not if so I don't give a ****!"

We've been good friends ever since.

I take people as I find them, not by their sexual orientation, that's none of my business.

Absolutely.

People seem to confuse 'legal' with 'compulsory'...

We have lots of friends, gay and straight (single and married) - they're our friends because we like them and get on with them; their sexual orientation is irrelevant.

pip08456 14-06-2017 23:08

Re: The 2017 General Election
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35903411)
Absolutely.

We have lots of friends, gay and straight (single and married) - they're our friends because we like them and get on with them; their sexual orientation is irrelevant.

That's what makes the world turn around IMHO!

Mr K 15-06-2017 07:28

Re: The 2017 General Election
 
Peterborough are well shot of their MP.....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7790296.html
Quote:

Outgoing Conservative MP Stewart Jackson has contacted a former constituent who had been critical of him on Facebook to call him a "thick chav" days after losing his Peterborough seat to Labour.

Mr Jackson, a prominent Brexiteer and ex-Parliamentary Private Secretary to David Davis, warned Christian Stanley, a businessman in his constituency, "If you print any **** about me on Facebook in the future you will regret it."

TheDaddy 15-06-2017 07:36

Re: The 2017 General Election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35903443)
Peterborough are well shot of their MP.....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7790296.html

Aren't most thick chavs jobless, sounds like Mr Jackson has more in common with them than his ex constituent

tweetiepooh 15-06-2017 11:15

Re: The 2017 General Election
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35903396)
No surprise there given his hypocritical stance on several things.

That was my complaint with him. He should have stood firm on his beliefs and faith as they are similar to mine. He may have raised the ire of some but being open about them is better. Being overt in your faith lets people know where you stand clearly and many who would not agree with the position would support the man. Hypocrisy is a bigger turn-off than disagreement.


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