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Hugh 21-04-2015 20:13

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^^ yeah rite! Rubbish!


Ignitionnet 21-04-2015 21:20

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Originally Posted by Foo Fighter (Post 35772953)
Its coming :O

From a survey this morning but sadly lots of mentions/hint about bandwidth limits?

Extremely likely that there will be both unlimited and usage based / bitcapped billing options.

qasdfdsaq 22-04-2015 04:10

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35772831)
As I understand it, VM are steadily moving to DOCSIS 3.1 readiness at the CMTS level, with said servers supporting DOCSIS 3.0 and 3.1 simultaneously. Again AFAIK, the BSRs are being replaced by Arris CMTSs.

If it weren't for backwards arsed "established" vendors that keep sticking their heads in the sand in the name of "revenue protection" we'd all be on SDRs by now.

Ignitionnet 22-04-2015 12:43

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The CCAP architecture is pretty SDN heavy.

Kushan 22-04-2015 13:13

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That has indeed been a rumour that crops up quite a lot :(

Ignitionnet 22-04-2015 14:54

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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35773130)
That has indeed been a rumour that crops up quite a lot :(

That CCAP is an SDN-oriented tech or that VM will be selling capped and uncapped varieties?

As of right now neither is a rumour, though obviously the second one is subject to change :)

Kushan 22-04-2015 15:12

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The capped services. Why would you say they aren't rumours? Have Virgin announced them?

dragon 22-04-2015 16:12

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300Mbit with a 10GB cap anyone? (Yes that would be silly, but no stupider than some of the 4G based mobile data plans that are out there)

I doubt they'd actually be that stupid, at least I hope not.

Kushan 22-04-2015 16:55

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Originally Posted by dragon (Post 35773199)
300Mbit with a 10GB cap anyone? (Yes that would be silly, but no stupider than some of the 4G based mobile data plans that are out there)

I doubt they'd actually be that stupid, at least I hope not.

I'd even say that's less stupid than some of the 4G caps out there.

Sirius 22-04-2015 17:22

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Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35772967)
^^ yeah rite! Rubbish!

Bit rich considering the standard of your previous posting history

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Excellent

Ignitionnet 25-04-2015 14:38

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Meanwhile in Hong Kong a couple of months back.

https://www.telegeography.com/produc...mer-broadband/

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Hong Kong full-service telco HKT, part of the PCCW group, has announced that it is introducing a pilot 10Gbps fibre broadband service for residential and enterprise customers, with a commercial launch planned for the third quarter of year.
Nuts :)

Sephiroth 25-04-2015 14:46

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Big wirry time, Igni.

qasdfdsaq 25-04-2015 15:03

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35773757)
Meanwhile in Hong Kong a couple of months back.

https://www.telegeography.com/produc...mer-broadband/



Nuts :)

Sure, but Hong Kong has twice the population density of London.

Ignitionnet 25-04-2015 15:13

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The population density thing has been done to death. It explains the suburbs, of course, London is a hugely spread out amalgamation of towns after all not a 'purpose built' city, but not MDUs in the centre of town and especially not new-builds that are getting copper.

Zero reason for any estate to not at least have FTTLA now, and thankfully builders seem to have gotten the message for the most part as increasingly MDUs are getting Hyperoptic FTTB, and MDUs and residential properties being built with VM FTTLA and Openreach or AN Other FTTP. :)

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35773760)
Big wirry time, Igni.

Indeed. The practicality of it is debatable given a 10Gb NIC is £300, a 10Gb switch £6-700.

qasdfdsaq 25-04-2015 16:00

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35773769)
Indeed. The practicality of it is debatable given a 10Gb NIC is £300, a 10Gb switch £6-700.

Chicken and egg again. If we don't have products to drive uptake of consumer grade 10Gb equipment we won't have any manufacturers mass-producing economical consumer-grade 10Gb equipment.

I ought to also point out the benefit of 10Gb internet is solely in multi-user scenarios right now, given virtually no single desktop will be able to consume that amount of bandwidth; you'd need something on the order of ten hard drives or four SSDs in RAID to sustain 10Gb levels of throughput. And if you can afford a £500+ storage setup to download at that speed you can afford a 10GbE NIC.

And you forget multi-GbE switches with 10Gb uplinks and/or GbE link aggregation are half that price, not to mention second-hand 10GbE NICs ranging from £50 to £150.

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35773769)
The population density thing has been done to death. It explains the suburbs, of course, London is a hugely spread out amalgamation of towns after all not a 'purpose built' city, but not MDUs in the centre of town and especially not new-builds that are getting copper.

The whole London thing has been done to death.

Nomatter how you twist it, it's cheaper and thus more economically feasible to cover an area considerably smaller than London with FTTH than it is to cover an area the size of Scotland and Northern Ireland combined.

That's the point I was getting at :)


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