Re: Creationism vs Evolution, Equal?
 

Yes, it IS untrue. It's the classic case of taking one part of the bible out of context, adding a touch of ridicule and telling everyone it's right - typical armchair expert tactics.

Re: Creationism vs Evolution, Equal?
 

That'd explain why I've still got bits left over...

Re: Creationism vs Evolution, Equal?
 

So the universe was created in the dark, and after he'd created the universe he then thought, "Let's turn the light on and have a look at what I've done".

It was a bit a bit cocky of him wasn't it, what if he'd made a complete dogs breakfast of it. Mind you I suppose he is god, after all.

Re: Creationism vs Evolution, Equal?
 

Really? Don't see any reference to the bible, did you?
Are you certain there are no religious people who believe that humans alone have a soul which is why they can enter heaven?
Ever seen animals lie, libel, slander, devise pogroms, murder for recreation and peform crossword puzzles?

Re: Creationism vs Evolution, Equal?
 

You're right of course. But where do you think he gets his information from?

He says 'Religious people'. He'd be more accurate if he'd said "some" before that. But still, why let something as insignificant as the facts get in the way of a good....here it comes.....*agenda* :D

His 'meditation' relates to an idea shared by a minority.

Plus it takes more than just 'being a human' to be entitled to gain admittance to heaven. But you knew that anyway.

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Yes, and of course isn't subject to the same physical restraints as us, who obviously need light.

Re: Creationism vs Evolution, Equal?
 

In the UK maybe, but he came to this universe and plonked himself down in the US, and you know the majority over there believe the devil has red horns, a cape, pitchfork and pointy tail...

No, but I knew that it is believed by some, like yourself, and it is believed by others that just being good is enough, the list of entrances into heaven that I know people believe goes on and on.

Now, Noah's neandethal kids, how did they come about?

Re: Creationism vs Evolution, Equal?
 

The Bible doesn't say science as a discipline is wrong - it is however at odds with some of the things this generation of scientists have concluded about the universe.

As for the Meditations of Thorax - he's right, the human soul is corrupt. He is wrong to suggest that this corrupt soul is the basis for entrance to heaven. The cleansing of the soul by the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ on the Cross is the basis for entrance to heaven.

After all our discussions, I thought you knew that. ;)

Re: Creationism vs Evolution, Equal?
 

OK well in the interests of fairness, could you add to your sig that it's a view shared mostly by those across the pond? Perhaps by placing the word 'American' at the start?

So we're agreed that just by 'being human' is not the sole requirement?

Unfortunately I don't have a dateline of the flood so I'd have a bit of trouble working that one out. But I'm sure they would have been before Noah.

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Yes but never let something as insignificant as the facts...etc etc :D

Re: Creationism vs Evolution, Equal?
 

It all seems a little contrived for an omnipotent being. Didn't he have anything better to do, or is this his idea of a laugh?

Re: Creationism vs Evolution, Equal?
 

He doesn't actually say that you must lie, libel, slander etc in order to enter heaven though.

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You'd have to talk to Thorax about that.


Not at all.

Ok, Adam's neandethal decendants, how'd that happen then in your belief system of humans not evolving but animals evolving?

Re: Creationism vs Evolution, Equal?
 

There is a simple answer for ya ;). Anything unexplainable by religion was planted by Satan to make us think he does not exist after all that was his greatest feat ;) :D

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Got his number? :D

But I'd have thought that in the interests of fairness and objectivity (and to demonstrate that you don't have.....*cue sinister music*...an agenda) you'd make that amendment to reflect the true status quo?

It sure looks that way!

No idea - I'm not a scientist :D

Re: Creationism vs Evolution, Equal?
 

Yes, and in the interest of fairness and objectivity, it would be wrong of me to misquote someone, wouldn't you agree?
He can be contacted at 9 Chickweed Lane, C/O Brooke McEldowney.

I thought I made it clear I am aware of many beliefs on how to enter heaven, for most of them "just being human" is indeed the only entrance requirements.

You have to be a scientist to understand your own beliefs? :confused:

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No, but he seems to think that the fact that people do those things 'clarifies' the entrance requirements. I'm not sure what else he means by that, seeing as he doesn't appear to be considering Jesus at the same time.

Are we way off topic yet? :p:

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Yes it would. But you could point out where he's not quite got it right?

Biblical heaven? I don't know of any beliefs which states that just by being human is the entry requirement.

No - I don't have a view on it, I've never considered it.