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1andrew1 18-02-2026 20:16
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What's that coming over the Hill? Is it a U-turn? ;)
Quote:
The chancellor has been speaking to broadcasters this morning - and didn't rule out a potential 16th U-turn from the government coming down the tracks.

This centres on the promise from Labour to bring up the minimum wage for 18 to 20 year-olds in line with the rest of the workforce.

However, there are reports this could be delayed or scrapped due to the impact it is having on youth unemployment.

Asked if the government is sticking to its manifesto plans on youth wages, Rachel Reeves dodges answering.
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...enoch-12593360

To me, if an increase in minimum wage is counter-productive, reacting to the evidence by not increasing it further is a sensible adjustment.

nomadking 18-02-2026 20:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36210775)
What's that coming over the Hill? Is it a U-turn? ;)

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...enoch-12593360

To me, if an increase in minimum wage is counter-productive, reacting to the evidence by not increasing it further is a sensible adjustment.
But as with so many of these u-turns, the evidence was readily apparent long before now.

papa smurf 18-02-2026 20:38
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gosh that's come as a shock :erm:

Anonymouse 19-02-2026 16:35
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As much as I agree about Starmer, he is at last talking some sense. In particular, that no-one is above the law.

In this country, that includes His Majesty (well, at least partly, and in principle, as I discovered to my surprise when it occurred to me to check), and so it should.

This only confirms that Reform must not get in - even if we end up with the damn Tories again. I'm inclined to employ my 'vote against' policy and vote for any party but Reform (and there's still no sign of None Of The Above, is there?).

Ladies especially: do you want this Nazi, a.k.a. Farage, telling you to go back to the kitchen and stay there? To provide a husband's "marital rights" - a.k.a. his right to screw, i.e. rape, his wife, whether she wants it or not (yes, kids, there was a time when a wife could not charge her husband with rape or even assault)? Do you want a return to the days as depicted in Remembrance Of The Daleks, where Ace had to take down a sign saying 'No Coloureds'?

Well, do you?!

Sephiroth 19-02-2026 16:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36210828)
As much as I agree about Starmer, he is at last talking some sense. In particular, that no-one is above the law.

In this country, that includes His Majesty, and so it should.

This only confirms that Reform must not get in - even if we end up with the damn Tories again. I'm inclined to employ my 'vote against' policy and vote for any party but Reform (and there's still no sign of None Of The Above, is there?).

Ladies especially: do you want this Nazi, a.k.a. Farage, telling you to go back to the kitchen and stay there? To provide a husband's "marital rights" - a.k.a. his right to screw, i.e. rape, his wife, whether she wants it or not (yes, kids, there was a time when a wife could not charge her husband with rape or even assault)? Do you want a return to the days as depicted in Remembrance Of The Daleks, where Ace had to take down a sign saying 'No Coloureds'?

Well, do you?!
You've taken leave of your senses.

Anonymouse 20-02-2026 08:44
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Uh, no, I don't think I have (though I admit after my stroke anything goes!). That is what Farage is implying. Starmer, at least, realises this.

1andrew1 20-02-2026 10:42
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Two bits of good news for the government in figures for January 2026 which exceeded predictions.
  • January saw the biggest budget surplus since records began in 1993. The government received £30.4bn more money than it spent.
  • Retail sales saw a far better than expected January, increasing by 1.8% . It was the largest increase since May 2024.This data gave "further evidence that economic growth picked up smartly in the New Year as budget uncertainty fades", Pantheon's chief UK economist Rob Wood said.
https://news.sky.com/story/record-br...rises-13509835

papa smurf 20-02-2026 10:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36210920)
Two bits of good news for the government in figures for January 2026 which exceeded predictions.
  • January saw the biggest budget surplus since records began in 1993. The government received £30.4bn more money than it spent.
  • Retail sales saw a far better than expected January, increasing by 1.8% . It was the largest increase since May 2024.This data gave "further evidence that economic growth picked up smartly in the New Year as budget uncertainty fades", Pantheon's chief UK economist Rob Wood said.
https://news.sky.com/story/record-br...rises-13509835


That's what happens when you over tax the public and business

1andrew1 20-02-2026 10:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36210921)
That's what happens when you over tax the public and business
Or when/as well as you have lots of successful self-employed people doing their tax returns. It could be a lucky blip.

Sephiroth 20-02-2026 12:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36210920)
Two bits of good news for the government in figures for January 2026 which exceeded predictions.
  • January saw the biggest budget surplus since records began in 1993. The government received £30.4bn more money than it spent.
  • Retail sales saw a far better than expected January, increasing by 1.8% . It was the largest increase since May 2024.This data gave "further evidence that economic growth picked up smartly in the New Year as budget uncertainty fades", Pantheon's chief UK economist Rob Wood said.
https://news.sky.com/story/record-br...rises-13509835
As mentioned already, self-assessment receipts. It’s only good news if they are higher than last year.

On retail sales - was that number for the Chrimbo period?

There’s nothing good news for the government. Their policies are causing joblessness.

Carth 20-02-2026 12:24
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Yes, but clutching at straws has become the National Pastime :D

nomadking 20-02-2026 12:53
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As the graph in this article shows, a surplus is a feature of every January.

Hugh 20-02-2026 13:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36210935)
As mentioned already, self-assessment receipts. It’s only good news if they are higher than last year.

On retail sales - was that number for the Chrimbo period?

There’s nothing good news for the government. Their policies are causing joblessness.
From the linked Sky article

Quote:
Self-assessed tax revenues were nearly £6bn more than planned for and capital gains tax receipts surged.
Also

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/gover...es/january2026

Quote:
This month saw the highest January combined self-assessed income and capital gains tax receipts on record (not adjusted for inflation).
Quote:
On retail sales - was that number for the Chrimbo period?
Not unless "the Chrimbo period" was in January or the New Year…

From the quote (and the linked Sky article)

Quote:
Retail sales saw a far better than expected January, increasing by 1.8% . It was the largest increase since May 2024.This data gave "further evidence that economic growth picked up smartly in the New Year as budget uncertainty fades", Pantheon's chief UK economist Rob Wood said.

---------- Post added at 12:00 ---------- Previous post was at 11:59 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210940)
As the graph in this article shows, a surplus is a feature of every January.

Also from that link

Quote:
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it was the highest surplus in any month since records began in 1993, without adjusting for inflation, and nearly double last January's £15.4bn surplus.

---------- Post added at 12:13 ---------- Previous post was at 12:00 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36210935)
As mentioned already, self-assessment receipts. It’s only good news if they are higher than last year.

On retail sales - was that number for the Chrimbo period?

There’s nothing good news for the government. Their policies are causing joblessness.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36210936)
Yes, but clutching at straws has become the National Pastime :D
https://media1.tenor.com/m/VaIiRqouG...d/nods-yes.gif

papa smurf 20-02-2026 13:18
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did we have the January sales this January

Mr K 20-02-2026 13:29
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Well done Rachel. I'm sure we can all congratulate her on a job well done ;)

Carth 20-02-2026 19:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36210951)
Well done Rachel. I'm sure we can all congratulate her on a job well done ;)
I'll drink to that . . . well I would if there was a decent local pub that wasn't now pretending to be a high class restaurant :D

Mr K 20-02-2026 20:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36210981)
I'll drink to that . . . well I would if there was a decent local pub that wasn't now pretending to be a high class restaurant :D
Drink at home for £1 a pint, or £6 in a pub with some bores telling you ' what they reckon', your choice ;)

Carth 20-02-2026 22:00
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The internet is full of bores telling you what they reckon*, I'd be off to the pub like a shot to get out of the way of her and the bloody TV :D



*yes yes I'm one

Chris 21-02-2026 09:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36210877)
Uh, no, I don't think I have (though I admit after my stroke anything goes!). That is what Farage is implying. Starmer, at least, realises this.
Maybe, maybe not. But your cultural reference points are … niche. Even for here. :D

Chris 27-02-2026 08:36
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May have to revert this thread’s title to ‘Sir Keir’s Kerfuffle’. :D

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1772177691

Chris Mason of the Beeb was opining last night that for Labour to be beaten by Reform would be a headache. For them to be beaten by the Greens would be a bigger headache. In the event they were beaten by both.

Hugh 27-02-2026 09:09
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Here’s Matt Goodwin’s reaction to the result…

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/02/6.gif

Sephiroth 27-02-2026 10:29
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Is that right?

Quote:
Mr Goodwin also addressed the results on X. He wrote: "We are losing our country. A dangerous Muslim sectarianism has emerged.

"We have only one general election left to save Britain. Vote Reform every chance you get.

"I will continue the fight. I will always fight for you. I will stand at the next general election."

Asked earlier at the count if the result showed that Reform's progress was 'faltering', Mr Goodwin said: "We have more than doubled our vote in Labour's backyard. I think we've embarrassed Labour in one of their strongest seats. I think if we can do this here, we can do this pretty much anywhere.

"Lucy Powell said Reform finishing ahead of Labour in Greater Manchester would be existential for the Labour Party. What you're seeing today is the rise of the new politics.

"On one side is Green. They want to legalise heroin and crack cocaine and have open borders. On the other side is Reform. We want to control the borders, invest in our own people and prioritise the British hard-working majority.

"This is the future of British politics. British people are going to wake up tomorrow and think we have a choice. Do we want to go with mad Zack and the Greens or do we want to go with Nigel Farage and a Reform government?

"Every Labour MP will wake up tomorrow, look at the Reform vote and think 'Oh gosh, we are in trouble'. We have planted a flag in northern England."
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...arage-33499496

Damien 27-02-2026 11:32
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Reform lost by quite a bit. Not really sure he has much of a leg to stand on here.

Hugh 27-02-2026 11:33
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Just to confirm, is he saying a "dangerous Muslim sectarianism" voted in a white woman from a Party led by a Jewish man?

Or is he just being a sore loser?

Sephiroth 27-02-2026 11:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211359)
Just to confirm, is he saying a "dangerous Muslim sectarianism" voted in a white woman from a Party led by a Jewish man?

Or is he just being a sore loser?
The former.

Hugh 27-02-2026 11:43
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If you believe that obvious fallacy, it explains why you are keen on Reform…

denphone 27-02-2026 11:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211359)
Just to confirm, is he saying a "dangerous Muslim sectarianism" voted in a white woman from a Party led by a Jewish man?

Or is he just being a sore loser?

Quite.

Carth 27-02-2026 11:58
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Will there now be a mass exodus of MP's to the Green Party?

nomadking 27-02-2026 12:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211359)
Just to confirm, is he saying a "dangerous Muslim sectarianism" voted in a white woman from a Party led by a Jewish man?

Or is he just being a sore loser?
Link
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Concerns were raised by Democracy Volunteers, a group of voluntary election observers who check voting processes are being followed correctly.
...
"In Gorton and Denton, we observed family voting in 68% of polling stations, affecting 12% of those voters observed."
Link
Quote:
Labour wants the authorities to look into claims of high levels of “family voting” in the Gorton and Denton by-election, with the party’s chairwoman describing the findings as “very concerning”.

Carth 27-02-2026 12:38
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OK, I'll admit I haven't got a clue.

What's Family Voting?

Taf 27-02-2026 13:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36211377)
What's Family Voting?
When the head of a family or extended family decides how the whole group will vote. No if, no buts.

It can also be referred to as Tribal Voting.

denphone 27-02-2026 13:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36211379)
When the head of a family or extended family decides how the whole group will vote. No if, no buts.

It can also be referred to as Tribal Voting.
Tribal Voting has been going on since the year dot and by all races and religions during that time.

Some families vote Tory, Labour, etc,etc all their lives.

papa smurf 27-02-2026 13:27
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Starmer admits by-election defeat 'very disappointing' but says he will 'continue to fight'


that'll be good news for rival parties, as starmer's popularity plunges as he circles the drain

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...enoch-12593360

Sephiroth 27-02-2026 13:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211365)
If you believe that obvious fallacy, it explains why you are keen on Reform…
Why? That's exactly what happened.

nomadking 27-02-2026 14:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211359)
Just to confirm, is he saying a "dangerous Muslim sectarianism" voted in a white woman from a Party led by a Jewish man?

Or is he just being a sore loser?
And yet the "dangerous Muslim sectarianism" voted for a party that is for drugs, when that religion is meant to be against them.

Sephiroth 27-02-2026 15:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36211388)
And yet the "dangerous Muslim sectarianism" voted for a party that is for drugs, when that religion is meant to be against them.
Shows you just what is going on. A further foothold in power. Mark my words (again), we'll all be facing east in 50 years ro so.

Carth 27-02-2026 15:38
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Well hopefully I won't be around to see it.

I'll be down below stirring a large cauldron of Sulphur and arguing with the horned boss man that it isn't my fault man created a better hell than his :D

Sephiroth 27-02-2026 16:02
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You really need to be up top so that you can pour that cauldron on certain so-and-sos.

Sirius 27-02-2026 16:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36211388)
And yet the "dangerous Muslim sectarianism" voted for a party that is for drugs, when that religion is meant to be against them.
It is also against murder but there are those who support that religion that seem happy to carry that out as well.

Taf 27-02-2026 16:27
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More on Family Voting....

https://youtu.be/rkQCSTKjcEM?t=405

Hugh 27-02-2026 17:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36211397)
More on Family Voting....

https://youtu.be/rkQCSTKjcEM?t=405

Strange how none of these observers reported the alleged acts to the Polling Officers or the Police as they happened, as the practice was made illegal by the Ballot Secrecy Act 2023 to prevent people from watching family members while they were voting, seeing how they cast their ballot and sometimes telling them how to vote.

In fact, their website says they should...

https://democracyvolunteers.org/about-us/

Quote:
We maintain strict impartiality and require our observers to abide by UK and international standards, as well as the relevant local legal framework, when acting as our observers.

nomadking 27-02-2026 19:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211398)
Strange how none of these observers reported the alleged acts to the Polling Officers or the Police as they happened, as the practice was made illegal by the Ballot Secrecy Act 2023 to prevent people from watching family members while they were voting, seeing how they cast their ballot and sometimes telling them how to vote.

In fact, their website says they should...

https://democracyvolunteers.org/about-us/
They're not the ones breaking any laws.
If they did report it there and then, it wouldn't be a true picture of what might be going on at the other polling stations. They were there to observe, not interfere and police any goings on.

Itshim 28-02-2026 21:28
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Another minster resigns . What's the betting , Starmer knew nothing

Paul 28-02-2026 23:50
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Who ?

Hugh 01-03-2026 21:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36211409)
They're not the ones breaking any laws.
If they did report it there and then, it wouldn't be a true picture of what might be going on at the other polling stations. They were there to observe, not interfere and police any goings on.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ction-33499275

Quote:
In response, the acting returning officer running the by-election has hit back at the claims, asking why the group issued their statement after polls closed at 10pm and not sooner. They also said staff were not told of family voting issues on-the-ground.

A spokesperson for the acting returning officer said: "Polling station staff are trained to look out for any evidence of undue influence on voters. No such issues have been reported today.

"If Democracy Volunteers were so concerned about alleged issues they could and should have raised them with us during polling hours so that immediate action could be taken. We have operated a central by-election hub which has been rapidly responding to reported issues during the day, in liaison with the police - who had a presence at every polling station - where necessary.

"It is extremely disappointing that Democracy Volunteers have waited until after polls have closed to make such claims."

nomadking 01-03-2026 22:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211503)
But then there wouldn't be a true reflection of what was going on in polling stations they weren't at. Instead of a figure of 12% of votes, it would've been a lot less at the stations they were at and intervened, but still 12% at the ones they weren't. That 12% would've been unknown because nobody was there to observe it. Just as with polling OBSERVERS around the World, their job is to observe, not interfere.

The controlling aspect over voting would still take place, just not necessarily in the voting booths.

Sephiroth 01-03-2026 22:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36211505)
But then there wouldn't be a true reflection of what was going on in polling stations they weren't at. Instead of a figure of 12% of votes, it would've been a lot less at the stations they were at and intervened, but still 12% at the ones they weren't. That 12% would've been unknown because nobody was there to observe it. Just as with polling OBSERVERS around the World, their job is to observe, not interfere.

The controlling aspect over voting would still take place, just not necessarily in the voting booths.
I only understood about 12% of that!

Carth 01-03-2026 22:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211506)
I only understood about 12% of that!
It's damn statistics again eh :D

Sephiroth 01-03-2026 22:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36211507)
It's damn statistics again eh :D
What about the other 88%?

nomadking 01-03-2026 23:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211506)
I only understood about 12% of that!
If instead of only simply observing, they intervened, then from that point on any other attempts would also have been intervened. As a result the number observed would've been less than 12%.
Now consider a polling station that they weren't observing, then the figure might've been 12%. The only way of knowing that the possible figure for unobserved stations was 12%, was by not intervening and seeing what happened naturally.
General principle of you can't properly measure natural behaviour by intervening.

Hugh 02-03-2026 10:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36211505)
But then there wouldn't be a true reflection of what was going on in polling stations they weren't at. Instead of a figure of 12% of votes, it would've been a lot less at the stations they were at and intervened, but still 12% at the ones they weren't. That 12% would've been unknown because nobody was there to observe it. Just as with polling OBSERVERS around the World, their job is to observe, not interfere.

The controlling aspect over voting would still take place, just not necessarily in the voting booths.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36211510)
If instead of only simply observing, they intervened, then from that point on any other attempts would also have been intervened. As a result the number observed would've been less than 12%.
Now consider a polling station that they weren't observing, then the figure might've been 12%. The only way of knowing that the possible figure for unobserved stations was 12%, was by not intervening and seeing what happened naturally.
General principle of you can't properly measure natural behaviour by intervening.

So, in summary, your proposition is by not doing something at somewhere where they were observing, they could have potentially affected something at somewhere else where they weren’t observing, thus potentially changing something that they couldn’t see or confirm was being changed, whilst having no idea if the possible figure of 12% was happening?

The general principle of you can’t properly measure natural behaviour by not being there to measure it…

btw, the Electoral Commission disagrees with your position on reporting any potential issues…

Quote:
The Electoral Commission said observers were expected to raise irregularities or incidents of potential fraud at the polls “on the spot”.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...eform-watchdog

nomadking 02-03-2026 11:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211518)
So, in summary, your proposition is by not doing something at somewhere where they were observing, they could have potentially affected something at somewhere else where they weren’t observing, thus potentially changing something that they couldn’t see or confirm was being changed, whilst having no idea if the possible figure of 12% was happening?

The general principle of you can’t properly measure natural behaviour by not being there to measure it…

btw, the Electoral Commission disagrees with your position on reporting any potential issues…

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...eform-watchdog
Usual nonsense. It's about MEASURING the level of incidents if no inventions are made. Interventions would reduce the level of incidents, but the level of incidents where there was no intervention would obviously be higher. How much higher would be completely unknown because nobody is monitoring it.
If you have no interventions for shoplifting as in parts of the US, there ends up being a free-for-all. Not everybody has the desire to shoplift, but with no interventions you get an idea of how many would shoplift.

Quote:
However, John Ault, director of Democracy Volunteers, said it was “a normal international standard not to issue a comment until after voting has finished”.

Sephiroth 02-03-2026 13:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36211526)
Usual nonsense. It's about MEASURING the level of incidents if no inventions are made. Interventions would reduce the level of incidents, but the level of incidents where there was no intervention would obviously be higher. How much higher would be completely unknown because nobody is monitoring it.
If you have no interventions for shoplifting as in parts of the US, there ends up being a free-for-all. Not everybody has the desire to shoplift, but with no interventions you get an idea of how many would shoplift.
Quite.

Anyway, now I understand your point. Thanks.

Hugh 02-03-2026 15:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36211526)
Usual nonsense. It's about MEASURING the level of incidents if no inventions are made. Interventions would reduce the level of incidents, but the level of incidents where there was no intervention would obviously be higher. How much higher would be completely unknown because nobody is monitoring it.
If you have no interventions for shoplifting as in parts of the US, there ends up being a free-for-all. Not everybody has the desire to shoplift, but with no interventions you get an idea of how many would shoplift.

Quote:
However, John Ault, director of Democracy Volunteers, said it was “a normal international standard not to issue a comment until after voting has finished”.
John Ault disagrees with you (and himself, on what he said previously…)

https://x.com/SamCoatesSky/status/20...661?ct=rw-null

Quote:
Sam Coates Sky
@SamCoatesSky

NEW: Democracy Voluteers hit back at Manchester Council

John Ault, the report author, tells @joncraig "We did raise the issue of family voting with individual presiding officers during the day before we left or when they were not busy."

nomadking 02-03-2026 20:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211539)
John Ault disagrees with you (and himself, on what he said previously…)

https://x.com/SamCoatesSky/status/20...661?ct=rw-null
If that is the case, then the 12% figure is really a lot higher.
I'm wasn't the one complaining that they should've intervened instead.

Hugh 02-03-2026 20:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36211561)
If that is the case, then the 12% figure is really a lot higher.

I'm wasn't the one complaining that they should've intervened instead.
No, you were the one saying they couldn’t…

And your first sentence has no basis in reality, reasoning, or logic…


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