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OLD BOY 11-01-2017 11:20

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_gain (Post 35880060)
Not entirely sure why that is the case. The V6 has more tuners but that doesn't mean more recordings it just means more parallel recordings rather than recordings being rescheduled throughout a given week. However the end result, i.e. total number of shows recorded in a given week, is much the same give or take the odd show that is watched and deleted with the current 3 tuner box before a rescheduled recording is made.

It could also be argued with 6 tuners the non HD +1 channels won't be needed for recording as often but the 3 tuner Tivo is pretty good at finding alternative HD recordings so I can't see the ratio of HD to SD recordings changing much for people either.

I guess what I'm saying is to use even more space than is currently being used more series links will need to be scheduled over an above what is being scheduled at the moment.

I agree that (for us, anyway), having six tuners may not increase the actual overall number of programmes we record, but my point was that those who make full use of the three tuners on the old Tivo will find that they still have to record in SD in order to have enough room for all they want to record.

My box was always between 80% and 95% full, which meant that I had to delete some programmes that I wanted to watch in favour of things that were a higher priority at regular intervals.

I am not a telly addict; I only watch about 2-3 hours per night Sunday to Thursday, and 2 or 3 hours more on Fridays and Saturdays, when I have late nights. So my programmes do build up, it's not as if I spend all day watching the TV, as some do!

trickytree 11-01-2017 13:00

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35880044)
thanks for that. Apart from the box being quicker, doesn't seem to be much more in it for me. I've got a 500gb Tivo that has never got above 60 percent.
Does it have all the same outputs as Tivo i.e scart & hdmi , and does it output from both simultaneously? Currently use TiVo's scart to output to a video sender which wirelessly sends to another TV.

It has no scart.
Due to the reason and that reason alone I have 2 boxes in my house and I have kept 1 TiVo so I can continue to use my Slingbox as that uses Scart like your video sender.

I already had a 1Tb TiVo so the storage part to me is no difference but it was a joy to use iPlayer finally with fast access and the whole 1 hour programme worked with no buffering or cutting out completely.
I know that could be due to location etc but it is connected wirelessly and hand no issues at all.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35880071)
I agree that (for us, anyway), having six tuners may not increase the actual overall number of programmes we record, but my point was that those who make full use of the three tuners on the old Tivo will find that they still have to record in SD in order to have enough room for all they want to record.

My box was always between 80% and 95% full, which meant that I had to delete some programmes that I wanted to watch in favour of things that were a higher priority at regular intervals.

I am not a telly addict; I only watch about 2-3 hours per night Sunday to Thursday, and 2 or 3 hours more on Fridays and Saturdays, when I have late nights. So my programmes do build up, it's not as if I spend all day watching the TV, as some do!

I'm with you completely here my box is currently 88% full and this is 1TB and I record all HD if possible.
I watch a fair amount of tv and the wife says we should get more selective as we do watch what you could call trashy tv like Big Brother etc.
Anyway once the kids have gone to bed and we are settled down it's typically 8pm and we go to bed at 10pm to wake at 6am for work the next day. Therefore always steadily building a collection of peak time viewing material we can't watch in front of the kids typically.

I am currently using my new V6 to record HD versions of Sky Cinema films as they are not stored on demand in HD but don't get me started on that one.

simon125 11-01-2017 14:17

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PtolemyIV (Post 35875800)
So I had a little bit of a dramatic install today... not great when wife at home trying to deal with virgin media install guy herself!

Our basic setup is virgin media superhub 2c in modem mode connected to a netgear r7000 router that runs dd-wrt and connects to uk vpn itself to route all traffic through such

So at some point I get a call from the install guy saying "it's not working" - I ask why.. all he claims is "it has to be plugged in directly to the hub" - I ask if that is really true - "yes it is - hub only and other one has to connect to virgin wifi only". I complain and say that I'll cancel the order then since I refuse to be restricted to virgin's all-in router given its limitations etc. Then I wonder if the VPN is confusing the V6 box - so I get the wife to switch off the VPN.. box then seems to connect / install and the guys promptly leave (in the interim his manager turned up as well after the original install guy disappeared from the property for half an hour).

So I now get home - both boxes are showing the tv. The secondary V6 box is connected to the internal wifi on my own router and seems to be working okay. However both boxes are showing "On demand is temporarily unavailable. Please try again in a few minutes."

I ask the wife if she knows anything and apparently the guys made some claim that there is still a few things to be set up in the background... and that it should all be working by tonight! Seems a bit odd to me..

Has anyone else experienced similar after an install?

And, also, does anyone else run a VPN on their router and verified if they can re-enable it and actually use the V6 behind such?

Thanks

yes, i am running vpn on my router

dodgem22 11-01-2017 15:06

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I wonder if some time in the future this box can be cloud enabled? There is little technical information about the specification of this box in the public field so perhaps it is only 1Tb as later down the line Virgin plan a cloud function to be activated on it perhaps??

OLD BOY 11-01-2017 17:03

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgem22 (Post 35880113)
I wonder if some time in the future this box can be cloud enabled? There is little technical information about the specification of this box in the public field so perhaps it is only 1Tb as later down the line Virgin plan a cloud function to be activated on it perhaps??

Well, that would certainly be a good development, but only if our access to the programmes we wanted to retrieve through the Cloud were not time limited. If we could access them at any time (for at least two years after bookmarking them), this would certainly provide an answer for UHD programmes that you want to see at a time that is convenient to you.

Mr K 11-01-2017 17:51

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trickytree (Post 35880082)
It has no scart.
Due to the reason and that reason alone I have 2 boxes in my house and I have kept 1 TiVo so I can continue to use my Slingbox as that uses Scart like your video sender.

Probably a no go on the V6 for me then.

Seen a pic of the V6 connection and it does seem to have some sort of scart out. However its a round connection so guess it would need some sort of adapter. Question is does it output from this the same time as the HDMI ?
https://goo.gl/images/wrRKPm

carbon60 11-01-2017 18:05

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35880138)
Probably a no go on the V6 for me then.

Seen a pic of the V6 connection and it does seem to have some sort of scart out. However its a round connection so guess it would need some sort of adapter. Question is does it output from this the same time as the HDMI ?
https://goo.gl/images/wrRKPm

That port has been disabled.

Mr K 11-01-2017 18:07

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carbon60 (Post 35880142)
That port has been disabled.

Spoilsports, still it looks a lovely port !

Guess they don't want folks using it for another tv, they want them to get an extra box. Capitalist swine.

OLD BOY 11-01-2017 21:08

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
My two new Tivo boxes were installed today. It took just over an hour and they appear to be working perfectly. The two boxes communicate with each other and I can see all recordings on both boxes from each individual box. The only thing I am disappointed about is that you cannot see the planned recordings of both boxes from each box as well!

The speed is very good and well up to the standard you would expect. Straight into the Netflix and BBC i-Player apps, and no buffering!

The V6 is a seriously good box and I would certainly recommend it from my experience of this afternoon.

The installer changed my superhub to a more appropriate model and so I've had to change the passwords for all my i-phones, tablets, the smart TV, Netflix, Amazon and Now TV, but it was worth it!

If anyone gets stumped with the pin number for access to programmes after 9pm and certain channels, VM have pre-set this as 1234. It's very easy to change this in the settings to a pin no of your choice.

Raider999 11-01-2017 21:36

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35880174)
My two new Tivo boxes were installed today. It took just over an hour and they appear to be working perfectly. The two boxes communicate with each other and I can see all recordings on both boxes from each individual box. The only thing I am disappointed about is that you cannot see the planned recordings of both boxes from each box as well!

The speed is very good and well up to the standard you would expect. Straight into the Netflix and BBC i-Player apps, and no buffering!

The V6 is a seriously good box and I would certainly recommend it from my experience of this afternoon.

The installer changed my superhub to a more appropriate model and so I've had to change the passwords for all my i-phones, tablets, the smart TV, Netflix, Amazon and Now TV, but it was worth it!

If anyone gets stumped with the pin number for access to programmes after 9pm and certain channels, VM have pre-set this as 1234. It's very easy to change this in the settings to a pin no of your choice.


I assume the 2 V6 boxes are connected to each other?

Is this hard wired or by wifi?

RobboEdin 11-01-2017 21:39

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35880174)
My two new Tivo boxes were installed today. It took just over an hour and they appear to be working perfectly. The two boxes communicate with each other and I can see all recordings on both boxes from each individual box. The only thing I am disappointed about is that you cannot see the planned recordings of both boxes from each box as well!

The speed is very good and well up to the standard you would expect. Straight into the Netflix and BBC i-Player apps, and no buffering!

The V6 is a seriously good box and I would certainly recommend it from my experience of this afternoon.

The installer changed my superhub to a more appropriate model and so I've had to change the passwords for all my i-phones, tablets, the smart TV, Netflix, Amazon and Now TV, but it was worth it!

If anyone gets stumped with the pin number for access to programmes after 9pm and certain channels, VM have pre-set this as 1234. It's very easy to change this in the settings to a pin no of your choice.

If you want to manage both boxes from a single place, use the TV Anywhere app where you can see the Planned Recordings, Series Links, etc of both boxes.

Mad Max 11-01-2017 21:53

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35880178)
I assume the 2 V6 boxes are connected to each other?

Is this hard wired or by wifi?

Be WiFi i'd assume...

OhReally 11-01-2017 23:38

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35880044)
thanks for that. Apart from the box being quicker, doesn't seem to be much more in it for me. I've got a 500gb Tivo that has never got above 60 percent.
Does it have all the same outputs as Tivo i.e scart & hdmi , and does it output from both simultaneously? Currently use TiVo's scart to output to a video sender which wirelessly sends to another TV.

Nope, the new one has a built in Scart socket that has been deliberately disabled via software

Mad Max 12-01-2017 00:55

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35880210)
Nope, the new one has a built in Scart socket that has been deliberately disabled via software



Does anyone really use scart nowadays.......:D:D

passingbat 12-01-2017 01:12

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35880220)
Does anyone really use scart nowadays.......:D:D


Maybe OhReally does, he seems quite upset about it's absence. Mind you, he seems pretty upset about most aspects of the V6; it's probably just another thing for him to bleat about.


Actually, a scart would have been useful for some; those who want to archive to DVD/HD recorders and those who use video senders.


But the content provider want copying to end, so are pushing for scart to be left off new equipment.

OhReally 12-01-2017 02:19

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35880224)
Maybe OhReally does, he seems quite upset about it's absence. Mind you, he seems pretty upset about most aspects of the V6; it's probably just another thing for him to bleat about.


Actually, a scart would have been useful for some; those who want to archive to DVD/HD recorders and those who use video senders.


But the content provider want copying to end, so are pushing for scart to be left off new equipment.

I don't bleat about it, I cancelled the tv service a while back. I simply try and give honest replies from what I glean on here to others.

My reply was to an earlier poster who DOES use scart.

If I REALLY wanted to copy something, I would put my hd video cam on a tripod, the microphone next to the telly and simply record it :D

The port is there and functional bar a software block, seems pretty pointless doesn't it?

BenMcr 12-01-2017 02:28

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
It's the other way around based on what Spiderplant has said i.e. there was never work done to enable to socket on the hardware within the code, rather than specific work done to block it.

passingbat 12-01-2017 02:59

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35880231)
I simply try and give honest replies from what I glean on here to others.


Good for you. Now, if only I believed that. Strange how your replies seem to focus on (your perceived) negatives of the V6.

denphone 12-01-2017 07:34

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35880220)
Does anyone really use scart nowadays.......:D:D

No not even a old dinosaur like me.:)

OLD BOY 12-01-2017 08:58

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35880178)
I assume the 2 V6 boxes are connected to each other?

Is this hard wired or by wifi?

Yes, my boxes are connected by wi-fi. Quite amazing, really!

If you have two boxes installed, the connection is there for you when it is installed. The other device is shown at the bottom of the 'My Shows' menu, and when you click on that, the recordings made on your second box are displayed. Very impressive!

Stephen 12-01-2017 10:27

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35880210)
Nope, the new one has a built in Scart socket that has been deliberately disabled via software

Where is this scart socket you speak of?

Sky Q boxes no longer have scarts either.

Itshim 12-01-2017 11:24

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35880243)
No not even a old dinosaur like me.:)

This old one does.Have second TV almost back to back with another with a Tivo
As I move from room to room I use the scart to send picture to the second tv.;)

denphone 12-01-2017 11:26

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35880259)
This old one does.Have second TV almost back to back with another with a Tivo
As I move from room to room I use the scart to send picture to the second tv.;)

Well each to their own old boy as its nice to see you post as its always good reading your well thought posts.

Itshim 12-01-2017 11:32

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35880260)
Well each to their own old boy as its nice to see you post as its always good reading your well thought posts.

follow the post here all the time but as I use Virgin less and less these days and have no problems with it YES I did say that, I rarely comment ;)

But won,t be looking for V6 anytime soon:erm:

heero_yuy 12-01-2017 11:44

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
For those who need a SCART to feed DVD recorders and RF modulators there's always the option of (yet another box) an HDMI to SCART convertor though so far the ones I've looked at don't seem to support the latest HDMI 2.1 standard (most are 1.3) so may fail to handle HDCP (rights protected) encoded material properly.

jb66 12-01-2017 13:38

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35880263)
For those who need a SCART to feed DVD recorders and RF modulators there's always the option of (yet another box) an HDMI to SCART convertor though so far the ones I've looked at don't seem to support the latest HDMI 2.1 standard (most are 1.3) so may fail to handle HDCP (rights protected) encoded material properly.

I imagine it will work okay but the v6 won't allow you to chose 4k setting

Mr K 12-01-2017 13:42

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35880263)
For those who need a SCART to feed DVD recorders and RF modulators there's always the option of (yet another box) an HDMI to SCART convertor though so far the ones I've looked at don't seem to support the latest HDMI 2.1 standard (most are 1.3) so may fail to handle HDCP (rights protected) encoded material properly.

Or you could just stick with Tivo.

Point is that Tivo outputs to scart/hdmi simultaneously letting you use the HDMI for your main TV and the scart for other purposes (copying recordings to DVD, outputting to a video sender). In this respect the V6 is much less versatile - suspect there are commercial reasons behind it. Guess it depends on your set up and what you want to do. I'm glad I found about this issue before 'upgrading'.

snips1982 12-01-2017 14:13

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Just got my v6 install completed. How does everyone have their video output settings selected?

Having a 4k TV, I have noticed that having 720p ticked in the settings, will have all programmes showing in 720p (I can see this by selecting 'i' on my sony TV remote.

So I have currently 2160p, 2160p pass-through, 1080p, 1080p pass-through, 1080i selected.

When playing youtube 4k videos, my TV changes to 2160p fine. When I play the BBC 4k HLR test, my TV stays in 1080i.

Should I have just 2160p set in the video output so that any 4k content that does show up will be shown correctly?

heero_yuy 12-01-2017 15:30

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35880284)
Or you could just stick with Tivo.

Point is that Tivo outputs to scart/hdmi simultaneously letting you use the HDMI for your main TV and the scart for other purposes (copying recordings to DVD, outputting to a video sender). In this respect the V6 is much less versatile - suspect there are commercial reasons behind it. Guess it depends on your set up and what you want to do. I'm glad I found about this issue before 'upgrading'.

Our Cisco VHD box does the same. Apparently there's a dedicated downscaling chip inside that drives the SCART socket. Only composit though, not RGB.

spiderplant 12-01-2017 15:45

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35880312)
Our Cisco VHD box does the same. Apparently there's a dedicated downscaling chip inside that drives the SCART socket. Only composit though, not RGB.

The V-HD supports RGB. Check your video settings.

heero_yuy 12-01-2017 16:00

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35880316)
The V-HD supports RGB. Check your video settings.

Sounds like I've read some duff info. Will take a look. :tu:

Mr K 12-01-2017 16:07

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35880312)
Our Cisco VHD box does the same. Apparently there's a dedicated downscaling chip inside that drives the SCART socket. Only composit though, not RGB.

Yes I've got a VHD box as well. It's ideal for the bedroom and powers down nicely overnight. Wouldn't want flashing lights and a hard drive whirring away when trying to sleep. If I want anything recorded I can get via the tivo/video sender from downstairs. Surprised they've stopped offering the VHD as an option.

Rob King 12-01-2017 16:16

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
after getting my V6 box installed last week i thought i would check my Virgin Media today and was surprised to see some extra charges from the ones i had been quoted of £64

05 Jan Activation Fee £14.99
05 Jan Manned Installation Charg £40.00
05 Jan V6 Box Activation Fee £99.95

might have to ring them to see why

BenMcr 12-01-2017 16:46

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35880320)
Surprised they've stopped offering the VHD as an option.

The V box platform is basically 17 years old now, and the V HD itself is over 6 years old as a hardware design.

It was inevitable that V HD boxes would stop being sold at some point.

derekh 12-01-2017 16:55

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Probably a silly question but, if I get the V6 box is there any way of transferring all the recordings I have backed up on my Tivo box but not yet watched?

BenMcr 12-01-2017 17:05

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
No. You can transfer series links. recording Wishlists and Thumbs but recordings themselves

Some people have opted to keep their existing TiVo which can be done for £7.50 a month whilst they clear down the recordings they want to watch. If you connect the TiVo and V6 boxes together via your home network you can stream recordings between the two

derekh 12-01-2017 17:22

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Thank you for your quick response

Pster72 13-01-2017 10:41

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
What's the procedure to get a V6 box and has any one had the fitting charge removed

BenMcr 13-01-2017 10:48

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Customer Services can arrange for it to be installed.

Whether you'd get any fee reduction from the standard costs will be up to the conversation you have with Virgin Media. But there is no guarantee that you'll get any reduction - especially if you're on VIP so are already getting preferred costs for it.

Ultimate.Conj 13-01-2017 11:53

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I rec'd my email from VM regarding the V6 today lol

"It’s the news you’ve been waiting for – our smallest, smartest, fastest Virgin TV V6 box is here. Yep, the future of entertainment is ready and waiting for you.

To get your hands on it, all you have to do is:


1. Click ‘I want in’ below.


2. Register or Login to My Virgin Media.


3. Click the Offers and Upgrades tab, then click on the Virgin TV V6 box, see how much it costs and boom – your box is on its way!


We’ll get in touch to let you know when it’ll arrive – because it’s brand new, it could take up to six weeks. But the sooner you order, the sooner you’ll discover exactly where your epic Virgin TV V6 box can take you. So, what are you waiting for?

All the best,
The Virgin Media team"


I've already ordered my boxes and have an installation date...better late then never I guess lol

NoCableForMe 13-01-2017 12:26

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35880437)
I rec'd my email from VM regarding the V6 today lol

"It’s the news you’ve been waiting for – our smallest, smartest, fastest Virgin TV V6 box is here. Yep, the future of entertainment is ready and waiting for you.

To get your hands on it, all you have to do is:


1. Click ‘I want in’ below.


2. Register or Login to My Virgin Media.


3. Click the Offers and Upgrades tab, then click on the Virgin TV V6 box, see how much it costs and boom – your box is on its way!


We’ll get in touch to let you know when it’ll arrive – because it’s brand new, it could take up to six weeks. But the sooner you order, the sooner you’ll discover exactly where your epic Virgin TV V6 box can take you. So, what are you waiting for?

All the best,
The Virgin Media team"


I've already ordered my boxes and have an installation date...better late then never I guess lol

I got that email, when I click on "Offers and Upgrades tab" all I get is

"We're sorry, but we're unable to change your package online. We'll be happy to do it for you over the phone, and it'll only take a few minutes. Please call us on 0345 454 1111 to speak to someone who can help."

FFS, can't even fix their own web site.

OLD BOY 13-01-2017 12:28

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35880437)
I rec'd my email from VM regarding the V6 today lol

"It’s the news you’ve been waiting for – our smallest, smartest, fastest Virgin TV V6 box is here. Yep, the future of entertainment is ready and waiting for you.

To get your hands on it, all you have to do is:


1. Click ‘I want in’ below.


2. Register or Login to My Virgin Media.


3. Click the Offers and Upgrades tab, then click on the Virgin TV V6 box, see how much it costs and boom – your box is on its way!


We’ll get in touch to let you know when it’ll arrive – because it’s brand new, it could take up to six weeks. But the sooner you order, the sooner you’ll discover exactly where your epic Virgin TV V6 box can take you. So, what are you waiting for?

All the best,
The Virgin Media team"


I've already ordered my boxes and have an installation date...better late then never I guess lol

I don't think you will be disappointed, UC. I can't get enough of my new V6s. I am indeed a happy bunny!

Ultimate.Conj 13-01-2017 12:29

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoCableForMe (Post 35880439)
I got that email, when I click on "Offers and Upgrades tab" all I get is

"We're sorry, but we're unable to change your package online. We'll be happy to do it for you over the phone, and it'll only take a few minutes. Please call us on 0345 454 1111 to speak to someone who can help."

FFS, can't even fix their own web site.

Haha I get the same message too :D

That's why I always use the online chat service or call them if I want to upgrade/change anything. Things seem to get done a lot quicker that way too.

denphone 13-01-2017 12:32

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35880440)
I don't think you will be disappointed, UC. I can't get enough of my new V6s. I am indeed a happy bunny!

Nice to see one of our revered posters happy rather then miserable for once OB.;)

Ultimate.Conj 13-01-2017 12:32

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35880440)
I don't think you will be disappointed, UC. I can't get enough of my new V6s. I am indeed a happy bunny!

I've had my V6s on order a long time before this email came, OB. My installation date is 7th Feb, can't wait. Hearing everyone's positive feedback is really good too.

It's probably just a general email for all those that have registered their interest, but you would have thought by looking at their system, they could see I already have an order in place lol

OLD BOY 13-01-2017 12:33

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35880441)
Haha I get the same message too :D

That's why I always use the online chat service or call them if I want to upgrade/change anything. Things seem to get done a lot quicker that way too.

I find that it's better to phone anyway. The VM Team are always helpful, I find, and answer any queries very well.

Of course, if you ask them about anything 'coming soon', they don't have a clue because all of that is kept very hush hush. But we knew that, didn't we? ;)

Ultimate.Conj 13-01-2017 12:37

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35880445)
I find that it's better to phone anyway. The VM Team are always helpful, I find, and answer any queries very well.

Of course, if you ask them about anything 'coming soon', they don't have a clue because all of that is kept very hush hush. But we knew that, didn't we? ;)

The same here, OB. The customer service I have received whether on the phone or the online chat has always been really good and they seem willing to help. I know everyone has different experiences, I've just been lucky I guess.

NoCableForMe 13-01-2017 12:56

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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All I get on chat is this, tried several times this week

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Ultimate.Conj 13-01-2017 13:23

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoCableForMe (Post 35880448)
All I get on chat is this, tried several times this week

Attachment 26856

I just signed into My Virgin Media to have a look and it seems to be working fine. I didn't get that message.

denphone 13-01-2017 13:29

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35880451)
I just signed into My Virgin Media to have a look and it seems to be working fine. I didn't get that message.

We used chat ourselves and it worked tickety boo thankfully.

OLD BOY 13-01-2017 14:04

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoCableForMe (Post 35880448)
All I get on chat is this, tried several times this week

Attachment 26856

Maybe they noticed your pseudonym, old bean!

1701-e 13-01-2017 14:43

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
V6 due to arrive 1 Feb. AS I don't want to wreak havoc in the house would https://www.amazon.co.uk/MobileFDL-V..._cd_al_qh_dp_t make my current TiVo wireless negating the need for a mile for ethernet? Ta.

jonandmarkuk 13-01-2017 15:14

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 35880462)
V6 due to arrive 1 Feb. AS I don't want to wreak havoc in the house would https://www.amazon.co.uk/MobileFDL-V..._cd_al_qh_dp_t make my current TiVo wireless negating the need for a mile for ethernet? Ta.

Unfortunately not, it would be far too slow a connection. I used to use one of those and they were also really unreliable.
Better option is the Powerline plugs, when I looked before Christmas Virgin were selling them cheaper than Amazon.

david_w2k 13-01-2017 19:35

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
2 x V6's installed today. Really happy and deliver everything I wanted (so far!)... Fast (instant pretty much), seamless search is worth using now and jumps into Netflix etc quickly and it is just as quick as the 4K app on our Panasonic TV (if not quicker). Now have Netflix on our bedroom TV also which is a bonus.

Still need to test the recording sharing between boxes etc but so far I am very pleased, well worth £114 as it'll stop me throwing the remote at the TV in frustration :-)

As most people agreed, no issue what so ever connecting to my ethernet switch rather than moving the SuperHub etc.

As an aside they look much better in real life. The pictures make it look quite bulky but in fact it is small.

Friendly installer arrived on time (and was patient as we did not hear the doorbell first time!) and got everything set up quickly.

---------- Post added at 18:35 ---------- Previous post was at 17:26 ----------

One question - I have gone only to copy the Series Links etc to one of the new boxes... It said it would take 30 mins to appear but they have not yet. Is that normal?

spiderplant 13-01-2017 19:54

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by david_w2k (Post 35880504)
One question - I have gone only to copy the Series Links etc to one of the new boxes... It said it would take 30 mins to appear but they have not yet. Is that normal?

Yes, it can take hours. You might be able to hurry it along by going into the Network settings and do "Connect to Virgin Media Service now"

AndyCambs 13-01-2017 20:02

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoCableForMe (Post 35880439)
I got that email, when I click on "Offers and Upgrades tab" all I get is

"We're sorry, but we're unable to change your package online. We'll be happy to do it for you over the phone, and it'll only take a few minutes. Please call us on 0345 454 1111 to speak to someone who can help."

FFS, can't even fix their own web site.

Maybe because you have a discount already.
But in my case, well worth ringing as it reduced my cost by £10 per month

Raider999 13-01-2017 23:52

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by david_w2k (Post 35880504)
2 x V6's installed today. Really happy and deliver everything I wanted (so far!)... Fast (instant pretty much), seamless search is worth using now and jumps into Netflix etc quickly and it is just as quick as the 4K app on our Panasonic TV (if not quicker). Now have Netflix on our bedroom TV also which is a bonus.

Still need to test the recording sharing between boxes etc but so far I am very pleased, well worth £114 as it'll stop me throwing the remote at the TV in frustration :-)

As most people agreed, no issue what so ever connecting to my ethernet switch rather than moving the SuperHub etc.

As an aside they look much better in real life. The pictures make it look quite bulky but in fact it is small.

Friendly installer arrived on time (and was patient as we did not hear the doorbell first time!) and got everything set up quickly.

---------- Post added at 18:35 ---------- Previous post was at 17:26 ----------

One question - I have gone only to copy the Series Links etc to one of the new boxes... It said it would take 30 mins to appear but they have not yet. Is that normal?

Same here, 2 V6 boxes installed today (ordered last year - 31st Dec to be precise)

Minor wobble with install window, but engineer did the job (hope wife gave him a cuppa as I was on a course)

Been hammering both boxes with recordings - only problem so far was downstairs box crashed when I tried to watch a recording from upstairs box - really hope this feature works as I hate sitting upstairs to watch.

Can I watch a recording from upstairs box when wife is watching live TVs upstairs or even a different upstairs recording?

Bit disappointing I cannot watch live to on my iPad via 3G connection as I could with sky.

Can I download a recording to my iPad as you can with SkyQ?


Overall impression - good quality, responsive box.

OhReally 14-01-2017 00:02

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyCambs (Post 35880523)
Maybe because you have a discount already.
But in my case, well worth ringing as it reduced my cost by £10 per month

I've not got any discounts at all and I get the same message (BB only)

---------- Post added at 23:02 ---------- Previous post was at 23:01 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35880543)
only problem so far was downstairs box crashed when I tried to watch a recording from upstairs box

Oops, off to a good start then. No doubt someone will be along in a minute to say I only point out the bad bits...

denphone 14-01-2017 06:07

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35880545)
I've not got any discounts at all and I get the same message (BB only)

---------- Post added at 23:02 ---------- Previous post was at 23:01 ----------



Oops, off to a good start then... No doubt someone will be along in a minute to say I only point out the bad bits.

Well you seem to be doing that job just fine.;)

Mr K 14-01-2017 11:03

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I always get that message in 'my vm' upgrades. Maybe it's because I've things that they don't offer any longer - 150mb bb, free extra box with XL/Tivo. When I rang up to renegotiate this week it took them ages to work out. You nearly always get a better deal ringing anyway.

marlman 14-01-2017 14:53

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
My V6 is coming Tuesday looking forward to getting rid of my TiVo which has become virtually unusable.
One thing the TiVo does is give a good HD picture I have not seen many reviews actually mention the picture quality.
So for those of you who already have it what is the HD picture like?
Is it better than the TiVo or comparable?

david_w2k 14-01-2017 15:17

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35880521)
Yes, it can take hours. You might be able to hurry it along by going into the Network settings and do "Connect to Virgin Media Service now"

Thanks for the advice. Yep by this morning was updated :-)

---------- Post added at 14:17 ---------- Previous post was at 14:16 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35880543)
Same here, 2 V6 boxes installed today (ordered last year - 31st Dec to be precise)

Minor wobble with install window, but engineer did the job (hope wife gave him a cuppa as I was on a course)

Been hammering both boxes with recordings - only problem so far was downstairs box crashed when I tried to watch a recording from upstairs box - really hope this feature works as I hate sitting upstairs to watch.

Can I watch a recording from upstairs box when wife is watching live TVs upstairs or even a different upstairs recording?

Bit disappointing I cannot watch live to on my iPad via 3G connection as I could with sky.

Can I download a recording to my iPad as you can with SkyQ?


Overall impression - good quality, responsive box.

Yeah pretty sure you can stream a recording whilst the other box is in use/watching live TV

cress11 15-01-2017 11:09

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Hi,
First time on the forum for me - hello to all!

I received a v6 yesterday and now have a problem....

Previously I was able to send the Tivo image from the ground floor to the loft room, allowing me to watch recordings etc on a second TV. I controlled this using the TV anywhere app. The image was sent by linking the Tivo scart to a Mercury RF Modulator. Via coax and a Labgear distribution unit the signal was sent to the second TV.

The V6 doesn't have a working SCART out...

So, is there a way of:
1. Using some kind of SCART adapter to connect the V6 to the Mercury modulator?
2. Linking the V6 and the second TV via ethernet? The two TVs are both linked to the home network (via a gigabit switch) using CAT 5 or 6 (I don't know which and I don't know how to check).

Any ideas would be hugely appreciated.

Many thanks

david_w2k 15-01-2017 11:54

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cress11 (Post 35880691)
Hi,
First time on the forum for me - hello to all!

I received a v6 yesterday and now have a problem....

Previously I was able to send the Tivo image from the ground floor to the loft room, allowing me to watch recordings etc on a second TV. I controlled this using the TV anywhere app. The image was sent by linking the Tivo scart to a Mercury RF Modulator. Via coax and a Labgear distribution unit the signal was sent to the second TV.

The V6 doesn't have a working SCART out...

So, is there a way of:
1. Using some kind of SCART adapter to connect the V6 to the Mercury modulator?
2. Linking the V6 and the second TV via ethernet? The two TVs are both linked to the home network (via a gigabit switch) using CAT 5 or 6 (I don't know which and I don't know how to check).

Any ideas would be hugely appreciated.

Many thanks

Easiest way is probably to get a second V6 and connect via WiFi or Cat5/6 I reckon.

Mr K 15-01-2017 12:03

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
This is the main reason I'm sticking with Tivo for now. The scart out allows feeds to other TVs and record to DVD/hard drive.

cress11 15-01-2017 14:15

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cress11 (Post 35880691)
Hi,
First time on the forum for me - hello to all!

I received a v6 yesterday and now have a problem....

Previously I was able to send the Tivo image from the ground floor to the loft room, allowing me to watch recordings etc on a second TV. I controlled this using the TV anywhere app. The image was sent by linking the Tivo scart to a Mercury RF Modulator. Via coax and a Labgear distribution unit the signal was sent to the second TV.

The V6 doesn't have a working SCART out...

So, is there a way of:
1. Using some kind of SCART adapter to connect the V6 to the Mercury modulator?
2. Linking the V6 and the second TV via ethernet? The two TVs are both linked to the home network (via a gigabit switch) using CAT 5 or 6 (I don't know which and I don't know how to check).

Any ideas would be hugely appreciated.

Many thanks


HI,

After a bit of research, a bit more detail around my specific question:

I would like to watch content from my Tivo V6 box in 2 different rooms. I achieved this with my old Tivo box using the scart out and a RF modulator over coax.

I'm now looking at the ESYNIC HDMI Extender and ESYNIC HDMI splitter (The V6 has only one HDMI port) . The two TVs are connected via Cat 5 or Cat 6 (I don't know how to tell the difference, but it was fitted in late 2011) via a gigabit switch.

Given the specification I have noted above, do you imagine this will work well? If the gigabit switch is and issue, I could connect directly using a coupler - what do you think?

FYI: I have tested the connection by temporarily moving a second Tivo box to one of the rooms I'm working on. By linking the two boxes over my network (via the gigabit switch) I can stream full1080p recorded content between the two boxes.


Any thoughts or ideas appreciated......

Joedm45 15-01-2017 15:03

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cress11 (Post 35880716)
HI,

After a bit of research, a bit more detail around my specific question:

I would like to watch content from my Tivo V6 box in 2 different rooms. I achieved this with my old Tivo box using the scart out and a RF modulator over coax.

I'm now looking at the ESYNIC HDMI Extender and ESYNIC HDMI splitter (The V6 has only one HDMI port) . The two TVs are connected via Cat 5 or Cat 6 (I don't know how to tell the difference, but it was fitted in late 2011) via a gigabit switch.

Given the specification I have noted above, do you imagine this will work well? If the gigabit switch is and issue, I could connect directly using a coupler - what do you think?

FYI: I have tested the connection by temporarily moving a second Tivo box to one of the rooms I'm working on. By linking the two boxes over my network (via the gigabit switch) I can stream full1080p recorded content between the two boxes.


Any thoughts or ideas appreciated......

Exactly the set up I have had for around 4 years on my TiVo and works well.

The only difference is my HDMI extender doesn't need power but does need two Cat 5/6 cables the same length to work. Probably all that was available without spending a fortune at the time. I also need to use an IR sender for the remote to work in the other room.

I'm looking to use the same setup when I eventually order a V6, should work the same with the added bonus of ditching the IR sender due to the V6 remote being RF

spiderwebb46 15-01-2017 15:23

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Not a regular poster on here, but I try to read as much as what interests me. At the risk of asking questions that may have answers elsewhere here goes. I ordered my Tivo V6 before Christmas but unless I accepted a NYE install date they could not offer me any other install dates until 1st Feb, which in the end I accepted. I am a long standing loyal XL customer who started out life with NTL and still have an ntlworld.com email address. When the guy comes to take away by existing 1tb Tivo box and replace it with the new V6 will he have the ability to switch over all of my saved programmes to the new V6 box ? Also will he be able to switch over to the new V6 box all of my Series Link list as well or do I have to start again. I suspect I know the answer to this but thought I would enquire of the community for their experiences. I am further being charged £50 for this new V6 box even though I am a long standing loyal XL customer. I can but wonder if this will be refunded eventually in same way as the refund was sent to me when I was originally asked to pay for the Tivo 1tb box. I have no idea what the new V6 is going to bring me but from what I can glean it seems to be a big leap forward to the existing setup which is getting very slow and "clanky" - I invite your comments please. - Roger;)

Ryo 16-01-2017 00:33

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35880329)
No. You can transfer series links. recording Wishlists and Thumbs but recordings themselves

Some people have opted to keep their existing TiVo which can be done for £7.50 a month whilst they clear down the recordings they want to watch. If you connect the TiVo and V6 boxes together via your home network you can stream recordings between the two

Hope you can help BenMcr

I had the V6 installed sat 7th and apart from It being superfast, and easy to DL settings from my old TiVo with series links etc, I'm very underwhelmed with what I was promised I can do with it, I kept my TiVo box and was hoping to stream shows from it I still had, but I've been told that can't be done without paying for a powerline connection, I wasnt left with the new HDMI cable and the setup steaming device doesn't work, never gets past step one and then says set up problem, set up did not complete successfully please try again, can anyone hek me, as I rang installs and faults and customer service, but nobody knows anything and all reps seem clueless, and don't seem trained on the V6

OhReally 16-01-2017 01:09

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cress11 (Post 35880691)
Hi,
First time on the forum for me - hello to all!

I received a v6 yesterday and now have a problem....

Previously I was able to send the Tivo image from the ground floor to the loft room, allowing me to watch recordings etc on a second TV. I controlled this using the TV anywhere app. The image was sent by linking the Tivo scart to a Mercury RF Modulator. Via coax and a Labgear distribution unit the signal was sent to the second TV.

The V6 doesn't have a working SCART out...

So, is there a way of:
1. Using some kind of SCART adapter to connect the V6 to the Mercury modulator?
2. Linking the V6 and the second TV via ethernet? The two TVs are both linked to the home network (via a gigabit switch) using CAT 5 or 6 (I don't know which and I don't know how to check).

Any ideas would be hugely appreciated.

Many thanks

Welcome to progress, our overlords have decreed that us minions are no longer worthy and despite building in all the hardware have decided to deliberately disable it. :dozey:

Ultimate.Conj 16-01-2017 10:59

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35880775)
Welcome to progress, our overlords have decreed that us minions are no longer worthy and despite building in all the hardware have decided to deliberately disable it. :dozey:

They have probably disabled it so customers don't have the option of sending the tv signal around their homes using their own tech and have to buy more V6 boxes :angel::D

Mr K 16-01-2017 11:06

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35880775)
Welcome to progress, our overlords have decreed that us minions are no longer worthy and despite building in all the hardware have decided to deliberately disable it. :dozey:


Disabling the scart is progress (for VMs extra box sales/profits...)

BenMcr 16-01-2017 11:16

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryo (Post 35880773)
Hope you can help BenMcr

I had the V6 installed sat 7th and apart from It being superfast, and easy to DL settings from my old TiVo with series links etc, I'm very underwhelmed with what I was promised I can do with it, I kept my TiVo box and was hoping to stream shows from it I still had, but I've been told that can't be done without paying for a powerline connection, I wasnt left with the new HDMI cable and the setup steaming device doesn't work, never gets past step one and then says set up problem, set up did not complete successfully please try again, can anyone hek me, as I rang installs and faults and customer service, but nobody knows anything and all reps seem clueless, and don't seem trained on the V6

It's never good when you can't get the support you need.

In regards to the V6 to TiVo connection, it should have been discussed at the point of order that to stream between the two boxes a home network connection is required so you can plan appropriately for any additional kit that you would need.

For the HDMI cable, do you mean that you weren't given one to allow both your boxes to work, as the V6 itself doesn't normally need a different type of HDMI cable to what you already have for TiVo.

And for the app, the only thing I can suggest is ensure that your device is completely update to date for all apps and system service e.g. Android System WebView and other OS updates.

1andrew1 16-01-2017 11:27

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35880775)
Welcome to progress, our overlords have decreed that us minions are no longer worthy and despite building in all the hardware have decided to deliberately disable it. :dozey:

Hardware's only part of the equation, VM has saved money on the software costs for SCART but probably more on content licensing costs. I'm sure content owners would prefer it if customers didn't archive their favourite films and series to DVD. Annoying for a few but I can understand why VM have done this. Maybe it's a pre-condition for getting Sky Atlantic? ;)
As others have indicated, there are work-around HDMI-SCART adapters available.

arcimedes 16-01-2017 11:33

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Minor question. I have a V6 on order for installation in February. I have a shub 2 running in modem mode. Is the installer likely to want to change it for a shub 3?

BenMcr 16-01-2017 11:47

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
No. If you had a SH1 or a older modem + router it would need to be swapped, but the 2 or 2ac are fine.

mike_gain 16-01-2017 13:27

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcimedes (Post 35880800)
Minor question. I have a V6 on order for installation in February. I have a shub 2 running in modem mode. Is the installer likely to want to change it for a shub 3?

I have a shub2 in modem mode. Installer didn't swap the shub or need it to be in router mode either. Just plugged in the ethernet that was already in place.

jonandmarkuk 16-01-2017 14:41

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35880797)
Hardware's only part of the equation, VM has saved money on the software costs for SCART but probably more on content licensing costs. I'm sure content owners would prefer it if customers didn't archive their favourite films and series to DVD. Annoying for a few but I can understand why VM have done this. Maybe it's a pre-condition for getting Sky Atlantic? ;)
As others have indicated, there are work-around HDMI-SCART adapters available.

I'm certain when Tivo was first launched by Virgin the USA software had to be coded to add Scart support (I don't think the USA Premier boxes which ours were loosely based on had scart).
I guess dropping scart support brings some of the base code in line with the USA version of the Tivo software.

I use a Slingbox with my v6, simply needed a HDMI splitter and a converter box (in my case convert to RCA)

OhReally 16-01-2017 14:44

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35880797)
Hardware's only part of the equation, VM has saved money on the software costs for SCART but probably more on content licensing costs. I'm sure content owners would prefer it if customers didn't archive their favourite films and series to DVD. Annoying for a few but I can understand why VM have done this. Maybe it's a pre-condition for getting Sky Atlantic? ;)
As others have indicated, there are work-around HDMI-SCART adapters available.

It's easier just to find a torrent and d/l it...I know you are only kidding about saving on the s/w costs, they will have to have paid to get the code redacted out and then fully regression tested.

Didn't I read somewhere on here they do or plan to use the same box in Europe and it's enabled there?

passingbat 16-01-2017 15:36

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35880775)
Welcome to progress, our overlords have decreed that us minions are no longer worthy and despite building in all the hardware have decided to deliberately disable it. :dozey:


Scart outputs will disappear; manufacturers have been pushed on this for several years by content producers. Why are you surprised that it has been left off the new V6?


Actually, I suspect that you aren't surprised; you're just using it an excuse to bash the V6.

---------- Post added at 14:36 ---------- Previous post was at 14:29 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35880824)
Didn't I read somewhere on here they do or plan to use the same box in Europe and it's enabled there?


You are correct, with a new version of Horizon software that will also be in the UK.


People on here seem to be suggesting that there could be some Tivo functionality on it.

1andrew1 16-01-2017 16:43

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonandmarkuk (Post 35880823)
I'm certain when Tivo was first launched by Virgin the USA software had to be coded to add Scart support (I don't think the USA Premier boxes which ours were loosely based on had scart).
I guess dropping scart support brings some of the base code in line with the USA version of the Tivo software.

I use a Slingbox with my v6, simply needed a HDMI splitter and a converter box (in my case convert to RCA)

Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35880824)
It's easier just to find a torrent and d/l it...I know you are only kidding about saving on the s/w costs, they will have to have paid to get the code redacted out and then fully regression tested.

Didn't I read somewhere on here they do or plan to use the same box in Europe and it's enabled there?

As jonandmarkuk said above, the Tivo SCART code may not be there in the first place. And I'm not sure how many countries in Europe have the SCART output enabled on the V6 boxes. I suspect it's probably just a couple of Eastern European countries. The likes of Germany and Switzerland probably don't have the functionality enabled.

Mobes 16-01-2017 19:54

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35880697)
This is the main reason I'm sticking with Tivo for now. The scart out allows feeds to other TVs and record to DVD/hard drive.

Eeeer yeah. If i invest in an new V6 box how on earth do/can i connect it to my HDD recorder???????

If not can anyone recommend another way i can 'video' tv output.

I'm a bit of a sad tennis match collector lol

Raider999 16-01-2017 22:15

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35880884)
Eeeer yeah. If i invest in an new V6 box how on earth do/can i connect it to my HDD recorder???????

If not can anyone recommend another way i can 'video' tv output.

I'm a bit of a sad tennis match collector lol

Similar problem myself (rugby rather than tennis)

Suggestions are

1) getting an old TiVo box and sending it over wifi then scart to DVD.

2) getting a hdmi cable which splits output into scart and hdmi.


This problem was one of the reasons I didn't want SkyQ which has same problem.

OhReally 17-01-2017 00:39

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35880829)
Scart outputs will disappear; manufacturers have been pushed on this for several years by content producers. Why are you surprised that it has been left off the new V6?


Actually, I suspect that you aren't surprised; you're just using it an excuse to bash the V6.

---------- Post added at 14:36 ---------- Previous post was at 14:29 ----------




You are correct, with a new version of Horizon software that will also be in the UK.


People on here seem to be suggesting that there could be some Tivo functionality on it.

So from your post we take from that

1. The box has a functional (electrically and connection wise) Scart socket

You seem to be suggesting that the Scart will work elsewhere in europe? hence the decision to cripple it in the UK was a *deliberate* one.

OLD BOY 17-01-2017 08:48

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35880926)
So from your post we take from that

1. The box has a functional (electrically and connection wise) Scart socket

You seem to be suggesting that the Scart will work elsewhere in europe? hence the decision to cripple it in the UK was a *deliberate* one.

We seem to be going around in circles on this one. It has already been explained that the scart is not activated by the manufacturers. That means that VM would have had to activate it before it could be used. The scart is there for use in Europe, not here, for reasons that have also been explained. VM did not 'cripple' the scart as you seem to be suggesting.

For those who have a scart device that they want to connect to the Tivo, my understanding is that all they need to do is buy an HDMI to scart converter, which you can get on e-bay for less than £15. Surely, this is a non-problem.

jonandmarkuk 17-01-2017 09:20

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
If you need to output a signal elsewhere, as other people have mentioned the only option is via a HDMI Splitter and a HDMI to SCART or RCA convertor.

Such as https://www.amazon.co.uk/iSolem-1080.../dp/B006KZBC92

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Neoteck-Con...=hdmi+to+scart

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tendak-Comp...omponent&psc=1

The key thing is that the Tivo will have to be set to output the correct signal via the 'test' option.
I don't have my v6 and Slingbox hooked up to a 4K TV, but I'd think you can't have 2160p as an output option on the Tivo.
I know by default the Tivo outputs 1080p at 60hz and I had to down it to 30hz as Slingbox doesn't support 60hz.

Yes the V6 doesn't have a scart socket, but really it's not the end of the world :)

Joedm45 17-01-2017 11:35

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Word of warning with HDMI splitters guys from my personal experience.

They split the picture fine but be careful with sound, especially for those with Amps. You can either have 5.1 OR stereo to both TVs, you cannot mix the two, all splitters just work that way.

The work around is to set to stereo and use optical out for 5.1 between the TiVo and the Amp. This is why I was beyond annoyed that VM took a year to reactivate the optical out socket they broke after a software update in 2015.

Worth considering for those that are looking to go down the splitter route

passingbat 17-01-2017 12:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35880926)
So from your post we take from that

1. The box has a functional (electrically and connection wise) Scart socket

You seem to be suggesting that the Scart will work elsewhere in europe? hence the decision to cripple it in the UK was a *deliberate* one.


I guess the countries where scart is still prominent, it will be enabled, other countries, where HDMI has become the standard, won't.


But you're aiming your vitriol in the wrong place; it is content providers who are pushing to eradicate scart outputs, to prevent (in their mind) piracy.

Mobes 17-01-2017 14:27

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35880901)
Similar problem myself (rugby rather than tennis)

Suggestions are

1) getting an old TiVo box and sending it over wifi then scart to DVD.

2) getting a hdmi cable which splits output into scart and hdmi.


This problem was one of the reasons I didn't want SkyQ which has same problem.

Cheers for the ideas!

My HDD recorder only has HDMI Output, which is pretty standard from what I can see.

I've decided to buy a HDMI to scart converter and see If i can go:-

From the TIVO Box HDMI OUT into the converter --- scart OUT into to my HDD player Scart IN and see what im recording via the HDD HDMI output to the telly.

We'll see if that works and I'll just rig it up when i need to....If it doesn't I'll probably give the V6 a miss.

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Originally Posted by jonandmarkuk (Post 35880936)

The key thing is that the Tivo will have to be set to output the correct signal via the 'test' option.


Is that a setting in the V6 Menu?

OLD BOY 17-01-2017 20:05

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
This evening, I tried to watch a recording from my upstairs box while in the lounge. However, I couldn't access the recording, and a V401 message is displayed. I then went upstairs - the programme played fine on that box.

The same happens when I try to watch a programme from the box in the lounge from the bedroom.

Does anyone know what a V401 error message means? Was something perhaps not connected correctly by the installer and is this something I can put right myself?

spiderplant 17-01-2017 21:33

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35881049)
Does anyone know what a V401 error message means? Was something perhaps not connected correctly by the installer and is this something I can put right myself?

I think it's insufficient network bandwidth. Are one or both boxes on Wi-Fi?

OLD BOY 17-01-2017 21:39

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35881057)
I think it's insufficient network bandwidth. Are one or both boxes on Wi-Fi?

Both of them are on wi-fi. What can I do to increase my network bandwith, spiderplant? I'm on 200MB.

theone2k10 17-01-2017 21:54

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35881058)
Both of them are on wi-fi. What can I do to increase my network bandwith, spiderplant? I'm on 200MB.

powerline adaptars might help you can get ones with wifi extenders on. https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Computers...erline+adapter

jb66 17-01-2017 22:01

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35881058)
Both of them are on wi-fi. What can I do to increase my network bandwith, spiderplant? I'm on 200MB.

Why are both on WiFi, isn't one close to the hub?

arcimedes 17-01-2017 22:07

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I run my downstairs Tivo over wifi but using the 5GHz band. It wont run very well over powerlines at all. Are there many wifi networks close to you which could give you problems if they and yours are used heavily.

OLD BOY 17-01-2017 22:19

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35881064)
Why are both on WiFi, isn't one close to the hub?

The hub is in an adjoining bedroom. They are pretty solid walls, having been built in the 1950s, so maybe the signal isn't getting through at sufficient strength.

Clearly, I will need to call Customer Services to get this sorted out!

jb66 17-01-2017 22:29

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35881067)
The hub is in an adjoining bedroom. They are pretty solid walls, having been built in the 1950s, so maybe the signal isn't getting through at sufficient strength.

Clearly, I will need to call Customer Services to get this sorted out!

Maybe not, what hub are you using, if a 2ac please check they are both connected to 5G

OLD BOY 17-01-2017 23:46

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35881068)
Maybe not, what hub are you using, if a 2ac please check they are both connected to 5G

Sorry, I don't know which hub it is - there is no identification on the hub itself. However, the engineer installed it and so I assume it's a superhub 3.

As for checking whether both are connected to 5G, I wouldn't have a clue how to do that!

I think I will have to ask CS to sort this out as it's beyond me!

Thank you all for your help, though! :dunce:

OhReally 18-01-2017 02:29

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35881058)
Both of them are on wi-fi. What can I do to increase my network bandwith, spiderplant? I'm on 200MB.

Get a decent router?

I have the TP-Link Archer, current connection speed 292 mbps or about 6x faster than my VM internet connection.

How much do you need?

jb66 18-01-2017 08:45

Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OhReally (Post 35881084)
Get a decent router?

I have the TP-Link Archer, current connection speed 292 mbps or about 6x faster than my VM internet connection.

How much do you need?

This is virgins responsibility. They could give you homeplugs


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