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Sephiroth 15-06-2020 19:51

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36039898)
Don’t worry - it will be a reassuringly superior quality virus.

As they say "You can taste when it’s Waitrose & Partners’ coronavirus"... :D

Beats "It's not just Coronavirus, it's M&S Coronavirus".

OLD BOY 15-06-2020 19:54

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36039842)
I'm now the only person wearing a mask when shopping at the supermarket/food shops..

A mask won't stop you getting it, Maggy. At least that's what the scientists say.

It will make you feel more secure, though.

RichardCoulter 15-06-2020 20:28

Re: Coronavirus
 
Masks are said to stop you passing on the virus if it turns out that you have it (which you might not ever be aware of).

Maggy 15-06-2020 21:28

Re: Coronavirus
 
And if everyone is wearing a mask surely that cancels everyone out.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52945210


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The World Health Organization (WHO) has changed its advice on face masks, saying they should be worn in public where social distancing is not possible to help stop the spread of coronavirus.

The global body said new information showed they could provide "a barrier for potentially infectious droplets".

Some countries already recommend or mandate face coverings in public.

The WHO had previously argued there was not enough evidence to say that healthy people should wear masks.

However, WHO director-general Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said on Friday that "in light of evolving evidence, the WHO advises that governments should encourage the general public to wear masks where there is widespread transmission and physical distancing is difficult, such as on public transport, in shops or in other confined or crowded environments".

downquark1 15-06-2020 21:36

Re: Coronavirus
 
Some have been calling for masks since the beginning of this. It is not a guarantee but it will reduce the spread and hopefully keep the r low.

Paul 15-06-2020 22:00

Re: Coronavirus
 
It still says "... should be worn in public where social distancing is not possible", so not general use.

Maggy 16-06-2020 09:03

Re: Coronavirus
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53060529

The other sad impact of this pandemic.

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The number of workers on UK payrolls dived more than 600,000 between March and May, official figures suggest.

The Office for National Statistics said there had been a record fall in the number of job vacancies in the period.

The early estimates reflect the impact of around six weeks of lockdown in the UK, in which almost nine million workers have been furloughed.

But economists say the full impact on employment will not be felt until wage support schemes end in October.

OLD BOY 16-06-2020 13:13

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36039920)
Some have been calling for masks since the beginning of this. It is not a guarantee but it will reduce the spread and hopefully keep the r low.

Wearing a mask steams up your spectacles, which is highly dangerous if you fall down an opened manhole!

Damien 16-06-2020 13:29

Re: Coronavirus
 
The first effective treatment for COVID has been found by a U.K research team: https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-12007880

An already available drug as well, so easy to roll out.

Stuff like this is why it's better to get this virus later than now, there will be more such advancements to come.

OLD BOY 16-06-2020 13:51

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36039986)
The first effective treatment for COVID has been found by a U.K research team: https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-12007880

An already available drug as well, so easy to roll out.

Stuff like this is why it's better to get this virus later than now, there will be more such advancements to come.

Unless it mutates. Incidentally, we cannot afford another lockdown, so sooner rather than later.

Pierre 16-06-2020 14:14

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36039986)
The first effective treatment for COVID has been found by a U.K research team: https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-12007880

An already available drug as well, so easy to roll out.

Stuff like this is why it's better to get this virus later than now, there will be more such advancements to come.

I still think we Should give bleach a try.

jfman 16-06-2020 14:38

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36039988)
Unless it mutates. Incidentally, we cannot afford another lockdown, so sooner rather than later.

We can't afford not to lockdown if the situation deteriorates. The public politically won't tolerate hundreds of thousands of deaths where other countries have successfully suppressed the virus and have sports stadiums open, let alone the NHS be able to cope with the circumstances that were projected when we went into lockdown the first time.

Incidentally, 'if it mutates' can equally apply to a vaccine. Why perform healthcare at all if we decide to live by the worst case scenario all the time?

Chris 16-06-2020 14:54

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36039988)
Unless it mutates. Incidentally, we cannot afford another lockdown, so sooner rather than later.

It’s a simple anti-inflammatory drug. It’s effective because it treats the symptoms that are frequently implicated in fatal cases. “Unless it mutates” may sound like a knowledgeable riposte in your ears, but it isn’t, because mutations are primarily a concern for their ability to render vaccines ineffective, not symptomatic treatments.

Sephiroth 16-06-2020 16:19

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36039999)
It’s a simple anti-inflammatory drug. It’s effective because it treats the symptoms that are frequently implicated in fatal cases. “Unless it mutates” may sound like a knowledgeable riposte in your ears, but it isn’t, because mutations are primarily a concern for their ability to render vaccines ineffective, not symptomatic treatments.

https://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/a27265/dexamethasone-uses-and-things-to-know/#:~:text=Taking%20dexamethasone%20daily%20helps%20 return,produce%20immune%20and%20allergic%20respons es.

The interesting (for me) aspect of the linked article is that the drug inhibits the immune response as well as inhibiting inflammation. This tells me, a complete layman, that the saved lives are those that would have suffered from a destructive immune response.

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Taking dexamethasone daily helps return the hormone levels to normal. Corticosteroid hormones are also involved in controlling inflammatory responses in the body. Dexamethasone reduces inflammation by stopping cells from releasing chemicals that normally help produce immune and allergic responses

pip08456 16-06-2020 16:42

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36040007)
https://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/a27265/dexamethasone-uses-and-things-to-know/#:~:text=Taking%20dexamethasone%20daily%20helps%20 return,produce%20immune%20and%20allergic%20respons es.

The interesting (for me) aspect of the linked article is that the drug inhibits the immune response as well as inhibiting inflammation. This tells me, a complete layman, that the saved lives are those that would have suffered from a destructive immune response.




That is it exactly as explained here.



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