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Pierre 05-03-2021 19:39
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36073241)
Isn't that what a visa is?
No.

A visa is issued by the destination state usually describing the terms of your visit. The U.K. Gov doesn’t issue a visa for me to visit India, the Government does.

The U.K. government issues me with a Passport and I make my own decision on where to go and when, within the boundaries of the law.

jfman 05-03-2021 19:50
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36073265)
Whilst I prefer you to leave me alone, that was quite funny.
:D you're one of the good guys, Seph.

jonbxx 05-03-2021 20:52
Re: Coronavirus
 
I would imagine most people travelling from the UK would need to have documentation showing their trip is necessary anyway. Certainly my work colleagues need it to travel across Europe and come back without quarantine/self isolation. They have to fill in an online form to get a letter from our work so it's just one more form to fill out.

1andrew1 07-03-2021 11:17
Re: Coronavirus
 
Looks like the US's lengthy process in approving the AstraZeneca vaccine could work to the advantage of the EU. They're in talks to permit supplies of the AstraZeneca vaccine to be exported from the US. A bit cheeky considering the EU was happy to let Italy bloc exports to Australia. ;)
Quote:
The EU will urge the US to permit the export of millions of doses of AstraZeneca’s Covid-19 vaccine to Europe as Brussels scrambles to bridge supply shortfalls that have hobbled its inoculation drive.

The European Commission plans to raise the matter in forthcoming transatlantic discussions aimed at boosting collaboration on the fight against Covid-19, EU officials said.

The EU also wants Washington to ensure the free flow of shipments of crucial vaccine ingredients needed in European production, including for groundbreaking mRNA technology vaccines.

The European push to access US production of the AstraZeneca jab — which was made in collaboration with Oxford university — comes as the company battles to meet first-quarter 2021 EU delivery targets already slashed because of production problems in the bloc.

AstraZeneca has also said it intends to source half of its planned second-quarter supply to the EU from elsewhere in the world.

The European Commission told the Financial Times: “We trust that we can work together with the US to ensure that vaccines produced or bottled in the US for the fulfilment of vaccine producers’ contractual obligations with the EU will be fully honoured.”
https://www.ft.com/content/e4aaf7a8-...9-4cd069a9dbf2

Julian 07-03-2021 21:09
Re: Coronavirus
 
Fans of a football club in glasgow prove themselves to be selfish, thick and complete assholes :td:

You really hope they all get covid and suffer. :mad:

IDIOTS

Mad Max 08-03-2021 00:20
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36073453)
Fans of a football club in glasgow prove themselves to be selfish, thick and complete assholes :td:

You really hope they all get covid and suffer. :mad:

IDIOTS

It's happened to both of the big clubs in Glasgow recently, you also seem to forget that Liverpool fans did exactly this last season when they won the EPL, did you post a comment about that? Just asking.

RichardCoulter 08-03-2021 01:06
Re: Coronavirus
 
Should we and other countries vaccinate those in poor countries? None of us is safe until we are all safe, unless we completely close our borders.

An interesting question posed by this mornings Hardtalk programme:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000t3l0

pip08456 08-03-2021 02:03
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36073463)
Should we and other countries vaccinate those in poor countries? None of us is safe until we are all safe, unless we completely close our borders.

An interesting question posed by this mornings Hardtalk programme:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000t3l0
Do these people go around with their heads in the sand? Have they never heard of COVAX and the WHO?

Published 19th Feb
Quote:
Commitments made at today’s Virtual G7 leaders meeting hosted by UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson, and at the Munich Security Conference later in the day, signaled significant progress in the global response to the COVID-19 pandemic with an important underscoring of the need for global equity in access to test, treatments, and vaccines.

Leaders recognised that no country can be safe until every country is safe and collectively committed over US $4.3 billion to the ACT Accelerator partnership to develop and distribute effective tests, treatments, and vaccines around the world.
Also

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The UK’s commitment to share vaccine surplus with developing countries is also welcomed and joins similar commitments made by Canada, France, Norway and the European Union.
https://www.who.int/news/item/19-02-...ccines-in-2021

Paul 08-03-2021 02:34
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36073461)
It's happened to both of the big clubs in Glasgow recently, you also seem to forget that Liverpool fans did exactly this last season when they won the EPL, did you post a comment about that? Just asking.
Being outside reduces the likelyhood of any spread.

I see they always trot out the "lives at risk" excuse (when it suits) - its a very small risk, and one we have been happy to accept in previous years without blinking.

Also, strange how all those BLM [and other] protests last year were not condemmed the same way ....

jfman 08-03-2021 03:32
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36073463)
Should we and other countries vaccinate those in poor countries? None of us is safe until we are all safe, unless we completely close our borders.

An interesting question posed by this mornings Hardtalk programme:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000t3l0
It’s not really “an interesting question” - it shouldn’t be a question at all. Hundreds of billions is put forward globally as international aid. It’d be quite a poor method of spending it to allow a global pandemic to rage in developing nations.

Sephiroth 08-03-2021 09:05
Re: Coronavirus
 
If only they were developing nations that weren’t lining the pockets of their top politicians. My father-in-law left Tanganyika with fresh water facilities in a number of tribal areas. Now it’s £3/month wanted to bring them fresh water.

In NZ he managed two hydro-electric plants that are still running and which I’ve visited.

jfman 08-03-2021 09:41
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36073476)
If only they were developing nations that weren’t lining the pockets of their top politicians. My father-in-law left Tanganyika with fresh water facilities in a number of tribal areas. Now it’s £3/month wanted to bring them fresh water.

In NZ he managed two hydro-electric plants that are still running and which I’ve visited.
That's certainly a strong argument for the developed nations taking more control of vaccination programmes through UN/other bodies.

Mad Max 08-03-2021 10:07
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36073468)
Being outside reduces the likelyhood of any spread.

I see they always trot out the "lives at risk" excuse (when it suits) - its a very small risk, and one we have been happy to accept in previous years without blinking.

Also, strange how all those BLM [and other] protests last year were not condemmed the same way ....
Well said, and spot on.:clap:

Hugh 08-03-2021 10:13
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36073468)
Being outside reduces the likelyhood of any spread.

I see they always trot out the "lives at risk" excuse (when it suits) - its a very small risk, and one we have been happy to accept in previous years without blinking.

Also, strange how all those BLM [and other] protests last year were not condemmed the same way ....
But not in crowds outside - close proximity for a longer period of time to lots of people increases the risk; it’s completely different from passing someone in the street.

In previous years we didn’t have a world-wide pandemic (except for last year), and the BLM protestors were equally in the wrong.

spiderplant 08-03-2021 11:28
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36073488)
Well said, and spot on.:clap:
Selective memories?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-protests.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-matt-hancock


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