Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35973040)

So I guess you are happy with how the government has performed since 2016 in this respect?

When almost all of the forecasts indicate a downturn in performance of the UK economy even with trade deals. For example, the recent government study takes in to account that we will have comprehensive trade deals according to government policy with United States, Australia, New Zealand, Malaysia, Brunei, China, India, Mercosur (Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay) and the Gulf-Cooperation Council (UAE, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait and Bahrain)

The question is, if almost all forecasts indicate a downturn in the economy then we need to talk about how much rather than whether it will happen. See climate change studies as a similar example.. If the methodology is flawed, then where are the 'correcting' studies by other groups or is the entire science of economics flawed?

I hope you are right and the negative impacts are low but we need to be ready in case this is not the case. Personally, in my situation, we can absorb a fair level of financial shock (Brexit proofing our mortgage with a really long term fixed rate for example) and most of my work comes from the EU rather than the UK. I am worried this will not be the case for everyone though.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35973058)

Why do you want no deal? It isn't plain and simple.

Hyperinflation, job losses, empty supermarket shelves, no health cover abroad. Either people genuinely don't realise or its a form of masochism.... The 'experts' can't do the impossible and make a crap situation good. Thankfully most MPs realise it, from all sides.

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35973081)

On what do you base this assumption?

Under WHO rules if WE don't impose tariffs on any EU goods without a deal, which is our perogative, then any other imports will also be free of tariff.

This doesn't mean we have to import from any other Country, just that if we do it must be on the same basis until a deal is made. A deal doesn't have to be with the EU either.

In essence, there won't be any empty supermarket shelves, oh and rice will come down in price as there will no longer an EU imposed tariff on it.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35973075)

The stockpiling of food as a contingency indicates that people are spending money now to mitigate against that likelihood. I fail to see how it warrants the dunce cap when preparations are being made.

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35973084)

No it indicates they have fallen to the project fear initiative.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35973068)

You are so funny, Mr K! You were trying to be funny, weren't you? This post of yours was hilarious! :D

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35973087)

stockpiling food? really? I must say I haven't heard of people doing that, maybe I read the wrong papers ;)

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35973088)

Well, OB empty shelves are a definite possibility in a no deal scenario, at least initially. Lorries getting stuck at the ports with checks and the public panic buying.

What is amusing though is your total devotion to TM and her achieving 'pure Brexit' :D