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muppetman11 11-12-2017 12:56
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35928358)
As long as it's better than their pathetic Skygo i'll be interested.
To be fair I never have issue with Sky Go but then I don't use it on a PC or Mac

theone2k10 11-12-2017 13:46
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35928361)
To be fair I never have issue with Sky Go but then I don't use it on a PC or Mac
On console it's great i just hope they drop silverlight soon as no browser supports it now apart from IE11 which is security flawed.

Stuart 11-12-2017 13:58
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35927840)
From info they've given me TCM is on it's way, they wanted a deal to bring SKY channels too but SKY are playing hardball at moment but BT are interested in AMC and BTsport being available on tvplayer, also premiersports are too.

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Mini windows pc has everything but they can be hit and miss and could mean messing around with browsers, but mini pcs are getting better and prices are coming down too.

Or, and this is nowhere near as cheap as a Roku box, Apple TV with a 3rd party media streaming app, such as infuse. The pro edition does cost money, but fire core (the authors) have licenced the Dolby and DTS codecs, which is what was getting the free media players kicked off the App Store. That particular setup will happily play most video and audio formats, including Apple sold ones. The exception being that there doesn't appear to be a Ultraviolet app for it, so most free downloads you get with Blu rays and DVDs won't play.

theone2k10 11-12-2017 14:58
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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35928372)
Or, and this is nowhere near as cheap as a Roku box, Apple TV with a 3rd party media streaming app, such as infuse. The pro edition does cost money, but fire core (the authors) have licenced the Dolby and DTS codecs, which is what was getting the free media players kicked off the App Store. That particular setup will happily play most video and audio formats, including Apple sold ones. The exception being that there doesn't appear to be a Ultraviolet app for it, so most free downloads you get with Blu rays and DVDs won't play.


It's interesting though reading about other peoples set ups as what might be right for me say might not be ideal for others and with posters posting details about their setups this might help people who are new to streaming etc.

Horizon 11-12-2017 21:27
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35928283)
It will be interesting to see how that works out. What exactly is "Sky's full tv service"? Will it include the FTA shopping channels and dross available on satellite or will Sky be a little more selective in providing a service where they have more control?
Will it even be a "tv" service as we know it?

What's the point of pumping hundreds of channels down a pipe, when you can just have catgories of shows/films like Netflix does?

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Originally Posted by love Virgin2013 (Post 35928331)
Could Now TV days be numbered then as dont see the point of it going on if Sky are bringing out there IPTV service?
I would take that query one step further and ask if Sky's satellite tv service could be numbered, albeit in the distant future?

Now TV was a stepping stone, to pick up some Freeview viewers and turn them into pay tv viewers, or to pick up some lapsed Sky viewers who cancelled their satellite tv subs.

I suppose the two brands could be ran side-by-side, one being the free/cheaper brand, the other being the premium one, but I'm not so sure. In part, it may depend if Sky ever become properly involved in networks, which they've always said they won't.

Sky still have their fibre joint venture going and with BT (Openreach) lowering their fibre to the premise prices, Sky may finally jump on that bandwagon too. Although with a potential Disney deal looming, it seems everything is up in the air at the moment.

If Sky were to offer a "proper" broadband package faster than 80mb coupled with a decent tv offering pumped down a fibre line, it could be killer app for them and a killer app against VM.

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35928358)
As long as it's better than their pathetic Skygo i'll be interested.
Sky still have the rights to all new films and if they become part of Disney, in effect they will give them control of one third of Hollywood's back library and future rights.

jj20x 11-12-2017 22:25
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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35928429)
Will it even be a "tv" service as we know it?

What's the point of pumping hundreds of channels down a pipe, when you can just have catgories of shows/films like Netflix does?
I guess that depends on whether Sky wants to compete, head on, with Netflix in an arena where Netflix is currently established.

ITV appear to be predicting that it will be linear tv and a source of additional income for them. Let's see how that goes.

RichardCoulter 11-12-2017 22:40
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35928283)
It will be interesting to see how that works out. What exactly is "Sky's full tv service"? Will it include the FTA shopping channels and dross available on satellite or will Sky be a little more selective in providing a service where they have more control?
Maybe they'll run it in the same way as VM where the niche/shopping channels can join if they pay them??

1andrew1 11-12-2017 22:56
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Originally Posted by love Virgin2013 (Post 35928331)
Could Now TV days be numbered then as dont see the point of it going on if Sky are bringing out there IPTV service?
Sky's premium full TV service will be available via satellite and fibre broadband. Now TV is a separate brand competing against TalkTalk and PlusNet's TV offerings, Netflix and other streaming services. It attracts those who wouldn't subscribe to Sky. No reason to ditch it just yet.

Horizon 11-12-2017 23:22
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35928437)
I guess that depends on whether Sky wants to compete, head on, with Netflix in an arena where Netflix is currently established.

ITV appear to be predicting that it will be linear tv and a source of additional income for them. Let's see how that goes.
There's no doubt that Netflix is emerging as a major media player with tons of their own content, but a Disney/Fox combo would own a third of everything that Hollywood has produced so far, with the rights to tons of stuff as yet unmade. That trounces Netflix into the ground.

Netflix gained popularity because you could watch loads of films from different Hollywood studios all on the same service, but that will change, starting with the removal of new Disney content from Netflix next year.

It maybe jumping the gun, but buying Sky maybe one of the reasons Disney is interested in merging/buying a lot of Murdoch's assets. Potentially they could use the Sky brand globally (it's easy to say and catchy) rather than the children/family orientated Disney brand.

jj20x 12-12-2017 00:28
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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35928448)
There's no doubt that Netflix is emerging as a major media player with tons of their own content, but a Disney/Fox combo would own a third of everything that Hollywood has produced so far, with the rights to tons of stuff as yet unmade. That trounces Netflix into the ground.
Assuming that the new Sky service is mainly chasing the movie market.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35928441)
Maybe they'll run it in the same way as VM where the niche/shopping channels can join if they pay them??
Maybe but many of the niche/shopping channels don't have the cash to support carriage on multiple platforms.

Horizon 12-12-2017 01:50
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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35928448)
Netflix gained popularity because you could watch loads of films from different Hollywood studios all on the same service, but that will change, starting with the removal of new Disney content from Netflix next year.
Correction:

Disney is only removing its stuff from the American Netflix service and that is in 2019, not 2018.

RichardCoulter 12-12-2017 02:39
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35928457)
Maybe but many of the niche/shopping channels don't have the cash to support carriage on multiple platforms.
Yes, all these emerging platforms are probably proving costly for them to keep up with as viewers are split between them.

muppetman11 12-12-2017 08:17
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35928457)
Assuming that the new Sky service is mainly chasing the movie market.
I'd say on the TV market as well don't forget Disney already have ABC Studios , ESPN they own Marvel which Netflix currently licenses off them for some of its originals.

You also need to factor in they'd then gain control of Nat Geo , Fox the Sky channels I'd say this would give it huge amounts of TV content and originals.

muppetman11 12-12-2017 12:59
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Anyone wanting the Amazon Fire TV 4K box it's only £55 from tomorrow.

https://www.pocket-lint.com/tv/news/...xa-for-just-55

jj20x 12-12-2017 13:21
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35928466)
I'd say on the TV market as well don't forget Disney already have ABC Studios , ESPN they own Marvel which Netflix currently licenses off them for some of its originals.

You also need to factor in they'd then gain control of Nat Geo , Fox the Sky channels I'd say this would give it huge amounts of TV content and originals.
Indeed, but there are many other TV broadcasters and independent producers in the TV market.


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