Cable Forum - Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Be good if we were just all nice to each other but the 'hate'/ xenophobia started in Little England. It's delivered up to us daily in our wonderful excuse for newspapers, who will settle for nothing less than war with Europe. Scottish independence has been made more likely by this toxic culture.

Sephiroth

01-04-2021 17:52

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36075938)

Be good if we were just all nice to each other but the 'hate'/ xenophobia started in Little England. It's delivered up to us daily in our wonderful excuse for newspapers, Who will settle for nothing less than war with Europe. Scottish independence has been made more likely by this toxic culture.

Since the highlighted statement is utter rubbish, the rest of your opinion is of similar standing.

What toxic culture? English reaction to Sturgeon's obvious hatred of all things English except our subsidy? Culture doesn't enter into this. It's out and out disagreement leading to SNP's hatred of the Boris regime and the average news-reading English people's disdain (not hatred) of the SNP.

I can wish a pox on the SNP (and do) without hating them. I hated Corbyn, though - just to put some perspective into this.

1andrew1

01-04-2021 18:12

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36075941)

Nicola Sturgeon has her faults but where is the evidence of her hating all things English?

jfman

01-04-2021 18:14

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First polls putting the Salmond party on 3%. Ouch that'll hurt his ego.

Sephiroth

01-04-2021 18:40

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36075942)

Nicola Sturgeon has her faults but where is the evidence of her hating all things English?

In the realms of the ... And the more she would deny that, the truer it would be.

Hugh	01-04-2021 19:30

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36075942)

Nicola Sturgeon has her faults but where is the evidence of her hating all things English?

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36075944)

In the realms of the ... And the more she would deny that, the truer it would be.

none, then...

Taf	01-04-2021 20:30

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It's nice to see that Salmond is helping get ABBA back together.

And wee Krankie is back on her soap box.

jfman

01-04-2021 20:34

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36075949)

It's nice to see that Salmond is helping get ABBA back together.

And wee Krankie is back on her soap box.

Just like shortarse Rishi.

Hugh	01-04-2021 20:55

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36075950)

Just like shortarse Rishi.

It’s OK, he just stands on piles of his wife’s money... :D

Sephiroth

01-04-2021 21:06

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36075951)

It’s OK, he just stands on piles of his wife’s money... :D

Tut, tut.

1andrew1

01-04-2021 21:35

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36075952)

Tut, tut.

At least it's hers and not the Conservative Party's.

1andrew1

03-04-2021 11:40

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The FT has costed Scottish independence at £1,765 per person per year. But didn't they say something similar about Brexit? ;)

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An independent Scotland would inherit a large hole in its public finances because lower than expected tax revenues, Brexit and the coronavirus crisis have increased the country’s budget deficit, according to a Financial Times analysis.

A significant deterioration in Scotland’s fiscal position since the country’s independence referendum in 2014 suggests it will face a persistent deficit of almost 10 per cent of gross domestic product — well ahead of international norms — if the country is to leave the UK by the middle of this decade.

Based on the pro-independence Scottish National party’s previous assumptions, this would mean Scotland needed to raise taxes or cut public spending annually by the equivalent of £1,765 per person in the period after exiting the UK so as to narrow the deficit to sustainable levels.

This in turn highlights how Scotland’s transition to a stable, advanced economy would be more difficult compared with when the 2014 referendum was held.

https://www.ft.com/content/ff6c0f6b-...a-878e2260cf3e
Non-subscribers shoud Google "Independent Scotland would face a large hole in its public finances"

Chris

03-04-2021 11:53

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36076045)

The FT has costed Scottish independence at £1,765 per person per year. But didn't they say something similar about Brexit? ;)

https://www.ft.com/content/ff6c0f6b-...a-878e2260cf3e
Non-subscribers shoud Google "Independent Scotland would face a large hole in its public finances"

The difference between the UK covering the cost of £1,765 per person, and Scotland doing so, ought to be obvious. The UK economy as a whole is broad and dynamic enough to cope. It has been designed to be that way by generations of policy choices. Scotland does not have that depth or breadth within itself ... there’s no reason why it should, because its economy is not designed to operate independently. It is designed as a component of the UK economy. That’s not a failing, it’s the whole point of the union (Scotland being effectively bankrupt in 1707).

Converting Scotland’s economic activity into ‘an economy’ would be a difficult and expensive process, causing a great deal of hardship to the very people presently in thrall to the SNP’s seductive promises of freebies for all.