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spankysmagicpian 10-11-2013 22:53

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Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35643030)
BT customers across the board are going to pay for what is a ridiculously ott payment for the Champions League...[COLOR="Silver"]

Was it OTT?

as someone pointed out - for the 3 year deal it's only 4 months of BT profit.

Mad Max 10-11-2013 23:16

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Was it OTT?
Over The Top!

paultrademark 10-11-2013 23:26

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It was a question asking if it was OTT not what is OTT lol

andy_m 11-11-2013 03:57

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Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35643195)
The ITV story was quite misleading, it said the sport had moved away from FTA TV and BT would charge for the matches. Well they already do as part of a monthly subscription or free to XL Virgin customers. ITV who were obviously a bit bitter from losing the rights chose to try and spin the story to make it sound like something it was not.

As for channels and new BT sport channels, what we have to remember is VM is not run by the morons who sold Bravo to Sky and then let them move some of the content to a channel they did not have the rights to. Being such a large player would LG really let a deal be negotiated for the BT channels that did not include any future channel launches?

I don't think that's misleading. BT said the matches would be "chargeable", and the interpretation of that word by ITV is the same as widely reported elsewhere.

The more I consider this deal the more I think it very unlikely it's included in the current Virgin deal. We shall see.

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Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 35643331)
Was it OTT?

as someone pointed out - for the 3 year deal it's only 4 months of BT profit.

That's profit from the entire business, presumably? It is difficult to see how it can make any money directly from the deal if Sky felt even they couldn't, and it's also ensured that the next Premier League rights auction will again be record breaking. Was it ott? I'd say yes. It can't pay for itself, it's more than double the previous cycle for nothing more and it has probably set us on a path of years of rights inflation that just cannot be sustainable.

Bust follows boom.

colin25 11-11-2013 04:05

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35643365)
I don't think that's misleading. BT said the matches would be "chargeable", and the interpretation of that word by ITV is the same as widely reported elsewhere.

The more I consider this deal the more I think it very unlikely it's included in the current Virgin deal. We shall see.

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That's profit from the entire business, presumably? It is difficult to see how it can make any money directly from the deal if Sky felt even they couldn't, and it's also ensured that the next Premier League rights auction will again be record breaking. Was it ott? I'd say yes. It can't pay for itself, it's more than double the previous cycle for nothing more and it has probably set us on a path of years of rights inflation that just cannot be sustainable.

Bust follows boom.

I think more so as the fees charged to punters is near saturation.

I had already decided (pre-BT) to drop espn, when I was only charged 10 pounds per month, as I didn't think it was worth it, as I was also paying sky.

I decided to try bt broadband, so bt sport was free.

Anything that dilutes this, or increases prices, means i will likely drop something.

I could afford to keep paying, but there is a point when i start thinking, is it worth it.

Worst case scenario, I follow online, and watch BBC highlights. Save myself a fortune, to waste elsewhere :D

johnathome 11-11-2013 10:06

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35642837)
Does anyone know what the next big set of sporting rights are that will be up for grabs? Football and non-football?

BT set to go after more sports rights

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/104...er-sports.html

nstokes 11-11-2013 10:18

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I want to see if BT will go for the F1 rights when the deal ends in 2018

denphone 11-11-2013 10:22

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35643414)
BT set to go after more sports rights

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/104...er-sports.html

The board is set now and Sky better prepare itself for a army of tanks to drive onto its lawn as the battle intensifies.

colin25 11-11-2013 10:23

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35643418)
The board is set now and Sky better prepare itself for a army of tanks to drive onto its lawn as the battle intensifies.

I am hoping both spend big.

More money to spend :)

Doug P 11-11-2013 10:29

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Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 35643331)
Was it OTT?

as someone pointed out - for the 3 year deal it's only 4 months of BT profit.

£81 per customer. Yes it is OTT. Bordering on obscene. Compare it to the price rises BT customers will get and the charge for the games when they come not the percentage of BT profits.

johnathome 11-11-2013 10:30

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With the comments about BT paying too much for sports rights does anyone remember when Sky moved into profit? They certainly weren't in profit from the get go.

I don't think they made a profit during the first few years of the PL rights?

Doug P 11-11-2013 10:30

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Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35643417)
I want to see if BT will go for the F1 rights when the deal ends in 2018

More channel launches to come then?

If so can our experts on here say if VM deal covers new channels?

Bet it doesn't!!

denphone 11-11-2013 10:33

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35643425)
With the comments about BT paying too much for sports rights does anyone remember when Sky moved into profit? They certainly weren't in profit from the get go.

I don't think they made a profit during the first few years of the PL rights?

No Sky did not make a profit in the first few years John.

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Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35643426)
More channel launches to come then?

If so can our experts on here say if VM deal covers new channels?

Bet it doesn't!!

That's hard to say as none of us will ever see the contract details Doug so like many other things its a guessing game.

Doug P 11-11-2013 10:37

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True Den but bet for example BT Sport F1 would be extra.....

denphone 11-11-2013 10:40

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Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35643433)
True Den but bet for example BT Sport F1 would be extra.....

Highly likely given that providers are out to grab as much money as they can.


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