Cable Forum - Brexit

I'm getting a bit fed up with this, you posted an article about fishing quotas and that's been shown to be bull crap you've moved the goalposts and tried to say now it's about jobs, what will you attempt to change it to when that claim is proven to be nonsense to, it's been like this throughout, pin the likes of nigel down with a fact and he'll squirm around trying to say he meant this instead, it's part of the reason brexit is such a mess

1andrew1

07-07-2019 21:52

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36001773)

How can Parliament stop a no-deal?

So very many articles on this. Rather than reposting links, I suggest we wait till November when we can find out for ourselves.

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Lots of nonsense being talked about what business wants, especially by those advocating no deal. The Director-General of the CBI, Carolyn Fairbairn, kicked this into touch today.

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No deal is not a panacea, not a clean break and not an end to uncertainty. And Mr Hunt’s and Mr Johnson’s prescriptions for shoring up the UK economy are short on reason, as the Institute for Fiscal Studies has said. Businesses are not crying out for corporation tax cuts. Nor are they clamouring for red tape to be reduced. Yet we are sleepwalking into a no-deal Brexit on the back of these misconceptions.

https://www.ft.com/content/e41124f2-...6-a4640c9feebb

Dave42

07-07-2019 23:14

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36001773)

How can Parliament stop a no-deal?

government losing a no confidence vote before October and forcing a general election is one way they be other ways too

Sephiroth

08-07-2019 07:25

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36001786)

government losing a no confidence vote before October and forcing a general election is one way they be other ways too

But is thete time enough for all this to happen?

denphone

08-07-2019 07:31

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36001788)

But is thete time enough for all this to happen?

A week is a long time in politics so we are told..

pip08456

08-07-2019 07:42

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36001789)

A week is a long time in politics so we are told..

How many weeks does it take to organise and hold an election?
Will the result of said election guarantee no no-deal?
Clutching at straws comes to mind.

OLD BOY

08-07-2019 07:49

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36001771)

The negotiations are over, Old Boy, closed doors, open doors or no doors at all. There may be an opportunity for some window-dressing but nothing fundamental will be discussed or can alter. Parliament won't accept a no-deal, talk of that is just to win votes from the Party faithful.

We won't be accepting the backstop on the permanent basis that is currently on offer, Andrew. The EU is posturing on this.

denphone

08-07-2019 07:56

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36001790)

How many weeks does it take to organise and hold an election?

Ask Theresa May as she was telling us repeatedly there would not be one while behind the scenes she was already planning for one.

OLD BOY

08-07-2019 07:58

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36001776)

The article I posted was essentially about the UK's obligation to bail out countries of the Eurozone in the event of a financial crash. The fishing issue was the very last part of that article, which was not my focus.

My comment to you was in relation to your comment about foreign ownership of our fishing fleets, so no need to get your knickers in a twist.

denphone

08-07-2019 08:01

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36001790)

Will the result of said election guarantee no no-deal?

l doubt it..

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36001790)

Clutching at straws comes to mind.

Politics is like the wind as it can blow in a different direction very quickly...

OLD BOY

08-07-2019 08:02

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36001794)

l doubt it..

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Politics is like the wind as it can blow in a different direction very quickly...

Yes, I think it is pretty clear now that the electorate just want us to get on with it.

pip08456

08-07-2019 08:05

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36001792)

Ask Theresa May as she was telling us repeatedly there would not be one while behind the scenes she was already planning for one.

I have no need to ask her anything.

1andrew1

08-07-2019 08:15

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36001796)

Yes, I think it is pretty clear now that the electorate just want us to get on with it.

A second vote or an election? ;)

Hugh	08-07-2019 08:34

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36001796)

Yes, I think it is pretty clear now that the electorate just want us to get on with it.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36001798)

A second vote or an election? ;)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8991351.html

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The survey of 1,532 people found 41 per cent of the public thought there was not enough time to get a new Brexit deal by Halloween, with 39 per cent saying it could still be done.

When asked about each option individually if a deal cannot be brokered, revoking Article 50 emerged as the favoured option (43 per cent), followed by a second referendum (41 per cent) and leaving without a deal (38 per cent).

Ms May’s deal commanded the least support on (21 per cent), while 35 per cent would back an extension to try to find a new deal.

These views may have been influenced by the fact we’ve moved from

"easiest deal in the world"

to

"" Determined to leave come what may"

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