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Sephiroth 08-03-2023 07:26

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36147640)
Perhaps he is stepping down before he is voted out by his local electorate.:)


https://pollingreport.uk/seats/E14000532


Doesn’t make him a rat, though.

Mr K 08-03-2023 07:26

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
MP for Wokingham next? ;)

denphone 08-03-2023 07:48

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36147643)
Doesn’t make him a rat, though.

Not my words as you well know.

Sephiroth 08-03-2023 08:57

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36147644)
MP for Wokingham next? ;)

JR is the adopted candidate.

ianch99 08-03-2023 09:29

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36147638)
I’m pretty sure Seph wasn’t objecting to a literal use of ‘rat’. More likely the insinuation that Brady is unprincipled, jumping before he’s pushed, only interested in saving his own skin, etc etc etc. Any or all of which might be true or might not.

I suspect Seph has actually challenged you to back up that assertion in some way. What you’ve actually done is accuse him of wilfully misunderstanding you, and then responded by wilfully misunderstanding him. Which seems a bit pointless really.

You are also misinterpreting the phrase:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...a-sinking-ship

Quote:

used to refer to people leaving a place, organization, activity, etc. very quickly and in large numbers, because it is failing in some way
Brady is not a "rat" per se, rather he is leaving the failed Tory Party before he is possibly voted out at the next GE.

Hugh 08-03-2023 09:54

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36147634)
The rats are leaving the sinking ship…

Graham Brady: Tory Chair of 1922 committee to stand down as MP

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64880471

Graham Brady has been the MP for Altrincham & Sale West for over 26 years with a 6k+ majority, and is only 55 - unusual for someone in that position/age to stand down…

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36147640)
Perhaps he is stepping down before he is voted out by his local electorate.:)


https://pollingreport.uk/seats/E14000532

That was the point I was hoping that people would get…

(as he is amongst the 22 Conservative MPs (so far) who have said they are not standing again in the next General Election…)

1andrew1 08-03-2023 10:22

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36147657)
That was the point I was hoping that people would get…

(as he is amongst the 22 Conservative MPs (so far) who have said they are not standing again in the next General Election…)

To his credit, he's not joined the growing list of MPs holding down a job at a TV news broadcaster whilst being a sitting MP.

denphone 08-03-2023 10:26

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36147661)
To his credit, he's not joined the growing list of MPs holding down a job at a TV news broadcaster whilst being a sitting MP.

You wonder where Ofcom are in all this as sitting MPs of all political persuasions should not be using TV or Radio channels as a platform for their own politics.

Hugh 08-03-2023 10:41

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36147661)
To his credit, he's not joined the growing list of MPs holding down a job at a TV news broadcaster whilst being a sitting MP.

I’m sure they’ve all cleared it with ACoBA…

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...arding-talk-tv

https://www.civilserviceworld.com/pr...et-office-told

ianch99 08-03-2023 11:06

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
To be honest, I am surprised at Sunak. I had thought he was one of the more principled members of the current Government. He has, however, decided to front Braverman's doomed "Make Seeking Asylum In The UK Illegal" project. She seems to have convinced him that the only way the Tories can win the next GE is to embrace a full-on Goebbels-style "hate the foreigner" campaign.

This will blow up in their faces as they do not yet realise that there are more decent people in this country than those they are pandering to. Sunak has sold his soul to the Farage/UKIP/National Front cabal and will regret it.

Paul 08-03-2023 13:13

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Maybe the "decent" people are getting tired of illegal arrivals as well ?

Damien 08-03-2023 13:37

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
I think everyone is, especially on small boats, but the measures do seem draconian for show rather than a genuine plan to combat it. Cynically, I don't think they have a real idea of what to do so went with an over-the-top plan designed to caught up in legal challenges so they can pretend it's not their fault.

I mean you're excluded from modern slavery laws if you arrived by boat? No way in hell that happens.

Sephiroth 08-03-2023 13:43

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36147668)
To be honest, I am surprised at Sunak. I had thought he was one of the more principled members of the current Government. He has, however, decided to front Braverman's doomed "Make Seeking Asylum In The UK Illegal" project. She seems to have convinced him that the only way the Tories can win the next GE is to embrace a full-on Goebbels-style "hate the foreigner" campaign.

This will blow up in their faces as they do not yet realise that there are more decent people in this country than those they are pandering to. Sunak has sold his soul to the Farage/UKIP/National Front cabal and will regret it.

Er - Goebbels?

ianch99 08-03-2023 14:56

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36147673)
Maybe the "decent" people are getting tired of illegal arrivals as well ?

What are "illegal arrivals"? It is not illegal to arrive here via boat and claim asylum. Maybe these people are tired of being forced to travel on small boats since they are unable to claim asylum via any other means.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36147677)
Er - Goebbels?

Maybe you prefer the British Union of Fascists?

Quote:

"Under Fascism, no alien shall enter this country to take the jobs of Britons, and aliens already here who have abused the hospitality of this nation will be sent back whence they came."
- British Union of Fascists, '10 Points of #Fascism', 1933
If you aware of European history, you will see the similarity between the language & style used by 1930's Germany to demonise the Jews and the current Home Secretary's attempt to achieve a similar feat against the asylum seekers arriving here by boat.

Pierre 08-03-2023 15:55

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36147673)
Maybe the "decent" people are getting tired of illegal arrivals as well ?

Well I'm sick of it. If that makes me Racist, Fascist, Xenophobic, whatever. So be it.


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