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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35888363)

It's not rare at all, they stopped the Tax credit amendments last year.

Except that's not what happened.....
George Osborne found some money down the back of his sofa and decided he didn't have to quite as nasty after all ! The Lord's didn't stop it , the Govt.could have forced it through if they wanted. They can be very grateful the Lord's caused them to pause and reflect and avoid causing even more misery for low income families. This is a perfect example of why the Lord's is important, a very good example you've raised Mick ;)

Interesting times ahead for the EU. I've an idea where Trump will tell them to go.;)

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The European Parliament also warned that it could take the further step of bringing the European Commission to court if it continues not to stand up to Washington.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/w...imes&smtyp=cur

As if there weren't enough issue's for the EU.

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35888398)

As if there weren't enough issue's for the EU.

What??? :confused::confused::confused:

There are no issues! Didn't you know the EU is a safe haven? As safe from terrorism, social unrest and extreme right wing politics as the Greeks are safe from eternal debt. There are no issues within the EU - no unemployment, stagnation, unrest or division. It's only life outside the EU which is susceptible to any such negative forces as that virtuous crystal ball monger Tim Farron has clearly proved. Anyone who'd want to leave the warm embraced of the Brussels Bureaucrats must be insane - all the empirical evidence shows us that staying in the EU is the only way for the UK to be a prosperous, safe and harmonious nation...

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Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35888321)

Well hold on a moment there, that's just a little premature, unless you're Mystic Meg, how about we revisit that statement in 5 years and see.

Yup, I think that sums up where he's coming from.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35888326)

You forgot the other playground insults - "you smell of wee" and "your mum!"... ;)

What sort of school did you go to? Was it 'approved'?... ;)

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35888326)

You forgot the other playground insults - "you smell of wee" and "your mum!"... ;)

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35888417)

What sort of school did you go to? Was it 'approved'?... ;)

What a terribly awful place to receive an education. You'll be telling us next Hugh that you stuck your nob in a pig's mouth during detention ;).

Your buttocks should be spanked with a wet rasher. And we won't even mention your time at Sandhurst.

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35888324)

Only some sources support your prediction for the future Andrew and they are far from universally believed and there are others that paint a far better picture. Given the utter mess we were told we'd be in right now if we voted to leave you'll have to excuse people not taking doom and gloom at face value but your welcome to picture the future however you want doesn't mean it's realistic.

You're missing the point mate. I'm describing why people on either side of the debate could be called traitors. I'm saying it's equally invalid to describe either side as traitors because they have a different but valid opinion.

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35888417)

Yup, I think that sums up where he's coming from.

Nope. In response to why people one side of the argument could be described as traitors, I explained that this could apply to the other side. I stated it was incorrect to label one side traitors just because they felt differently from you on an issue.

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35888328)

You have no concrete evidence too support that. So called financial experts were totally discredited after the referendum.

Nigel Farage is a man for this time. It's most likely that without him, the referendum would not have happened. He (and Trump) get the battle that is going on between nation state Sovereignty and a globalist agenda.

I'm just showing that there are two sides to many arguments. There's no evidence to show that either side are traitors...which is my point.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35888394)

Interesting times ahead for the EU. I've an idea where Trump will tell them to go.;)

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/w...imes&smtyp=cur

Well according to Donald Trump, he is ‘totally in favour’ of ‘wonderful’ EU.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35888312)

Tony Blair and Ken Clarke are many things but not traitors. You could argue that Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage are traitors for pushing for Brexit which will leave the country poorer, more isolated and having less clout in the world. They're not. It's just people holding different and valid opinions.

what that there dicknery says .... traitor

a person who is not loyal or stops being loyal to their own country

traitor

Origin
Middle English: from Old French traitour, from Latin traditor, from tradere ‘hand over’.

brexit= take back
remain = hand over

not that i'm calling anyone names or giving them a label i wouldn't do that .

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35888440)

Based on your own subjective one eyed opinion l gather as am l a traitor because l did not vote for Brexit? at the time and now its going to happen my belief is we should try to do the best we can for the whole of the country going into the future so l gather IYO that does not make me a traitor now?.;)

calm down dear
i quoted the dictionary definition of traitor and its origin

as a brexiter i voted to take back control
not give away more control to a foreign power

what ever you voted for is i your business and on your conscience i have put no label on it .;)

l understand why yourself and others voted for Brexit but what you voted for and what you might get could well disappoint yourself and others papa but anyway there is far more to life as you and l know then Brexit as life is short and one must enjoy it as much as we can..:)

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35888443)

l understand why yourself and others voted for Brexit but what you voted for and what you might get could well disappoint yourself and others papa but anyway there is far more to life as you and l know then Brexit as life is short and one must enjoy it as much as we can..:)

can't argue with that;)

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
Tony Blair and Ken Clarke are many things but not traitors. You could argue that Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage are traitors for pushing for Brexit which will leave the country poorer, more isolated and having less clout in the world. They're not. It's just people holding different and valid opinions.

i think your wrong there Tony Blair is a traitor to humanity with the blood of millions on his hands.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35888449)

UK could quit EU without paying a penny, say Lords

Legally maybe, the reality might be different if we want to do any trade with the EU in future.
So the Lord's are worthwhile after all ;)

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35888449)

UK could quit EU without paying a penny, say Lords

That would be short term gain, long term pain I suspect, not to be recommended.

I certainly don't think we would leave without paying anything but I doubt it will be £50bn.