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linwelin 21-04-2015 04:18

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I think virgin is going to lose the fastest broadband badge soon, if any of this is to be believed of course. http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...band-2020.html

pip08456 21-04-2015 05:37

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Originally Posted by linwelin (Post 35772816)
I think virgin is going to lose the fastest broadband badge soon, if any of this is to be believed of course. http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...band-2020.html

Late 2016 at the earliest.

General Maximus 21-04-2015 08:33

Re: 200Mbit coming soon? (According to a survey)
 
sweet, it can only be a good thing and make VM pull their finger out and get docsis 3.1 going

Martin_D 21-04-2015 09:00

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There is still no certified DOCSIS 3.1 hardware yet, We are looking at late 2016 before virgin begins the roll out

Liberty Global is preparing trials of DOCSIS 3.1 technology across Europe later this year. This technology could extend Liberty Global’s speed leadership to up to 10Gb when it is fully deployed in the future.

Sephiroth 21-04-2015 09:09

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35772826)
sweet, it can only be a good thing and make VM pull their finger out and get docsis 3.1 going

As I understand it, VM are steadily moving to DOCSIS 3.1 readiness at the CMTS level, with said servers supporting DOCSIS 3.0 and 3.1 simultaneously. Again AFAIK, the BSRs are being replaced by Arris CMTSs.

A new modem (Arris perhaps?) will be required as has already been mentioned and it seems to me that the upcoming 300/15 tier will be supplied in this way. The trick then would be to make the DOCSIS 3.1 introduction as seamless as was the move from DOCSIS 1.1 to DOCSIS 3.0.

Interesting times ahead.

Martin_D 21-04-2015 09:56

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35765706)
Doesn't mean that the top tier will start of with 16 DS. You know how VM do it - 4 then 6 then 8; so maybe 12 DS first. According to my information it will be a gateway. Are they so dumb as not to have a modem mode?

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Or it may be a non-VM branded product. I've no hard information on that though.

DOCSIS 3.0 AC1900 Voice and Data Cable Gateway, C7000B

http://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder-..._to=2015-04-21

Sephiroth 21-04-2015 10:10

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Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35772838)
DOCSIS 3.0 AC1900 Voice and Data Cable Gateway, C7000B

http://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder-..._to=2015-04-21

Definitive for VM or suggested?

Martin_D 21-04-2015 10:34

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35772841)
Definitive for VM or suggested?

No it's just a suggestion sorry, But it just looks like they have drop the name VMDGxxx

Pierre 21-04-2015 10:40

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http://www.fibre-systems.com/feature/cable-conundrum

Ignitionnet 21-04-2015 11:25

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Originally Posted by linwelin (Post 35772816)
I think virgin is going to lose the fastest broadband badge soon, if any of this is to be believed of course. http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...band-2020.html

The 1000Mb isn't G.fast, and the G.fast deployment will start at 'hundreds' of Mb ramping up to 500Mb within 10 years.

VM can be 600Mb capable by 2016/2017 if the commercial need is there.

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35772826)
sweet, it can only be a good thing and make VM pull their finger out and get docsis 3.1 going

VM still don't need DOCSIS 3.1 and the kit still isn't available. Early trials starting at the back end of this year with early commercial deployments among some cable companies starting next year.

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Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35772838)
DOCSIS 3.0 AC1900 Voice and Data Cable Gateway, C7000B

http://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder-..._to=2015-04-21

As I understand it there are multiple vendors being considered for the equipment. It's far from impossible VM will use the same kit as the rest of the LGI family.

Kushan 21-04-2015 11:29

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I thought that the rollout plan for 3.1 was to start at the CPE level and work backwards?

Ignitionnet 21-04-2015 12:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35772854)
I thought that the rollout plan for 3.1 was to start at the CPE level and work backwards?

There are no DOCSIS 3.1 CPE available and this was never the plan. Moving to CCAP gives an element of DOCSIS 3.1 readiness.

http://www.cisco.com/web/solutions/s..._ccap_2013.pdf
http://www.arriseverywhere.com/wp-co...DOCSIS-3.1.pdf

Kushan 21-04-2015 19:22

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35772856)
There are no DOCSIS 3.1 CPE available and this was never the plan. Moving to CCAP gives an element of DOCSIS 3.1 readiness.

http://www.cisco.com/web/solutions/s..._ccap_2013.pdf
http://www.arriseverywhere.com/wp-co...DOCSIS-3.1.pdf

I don't disagree, I can only go by some PDF someone posted way last year about the rollout plans. Come to think of it, that might have been a Comcast PDF or something.

Foo Fighter 21-04-2015 19:22

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/04/12.png

Its coming :O

From a survey this morning but sadly lots of mentions/hint about bandwidth limits?

telfordcable 21-04-2015 19:54

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^^ yeah rite! Rubbish!


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