re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

They are entitled to a holiday too.

But it wasn't bad enough that they needed to return, however now it is spreading they are springing in to action.

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No it doesn't, but this is clearly not an act of terrorism.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

I know. I just looked up its definition.

some people probably assume terrorism to be exclusive to muslims and the irish.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

Which isn't relevant here.. the crowds are not looking at inciting terror through violence, instead they're acting out for fun, excitement or greed... Nothing at all to do with terrorism though it does make me wonder if the government will use anti-terrorism laws to try to stem the riots

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

pay yes, does business insurance cover civil unrest? if it doesn't a lot of businesses there may just decide to move on, that'll really help the neighbourhood won't it.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

England v Holland called off.

Shame, I was looking forward to it. Probably for the best though.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

PM's speech said sod all :(

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

Dave has spoken.

he is going to bring more police in. to stand and watch probably.

and he said the people will face the consequences as predicted.

well done Dave. sorry to interrupt your holiday.

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Ok. if they're doing it for fun and not intentionally, then I withdraw my terrorism remark.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

Often, standing and watching is the best way to catch these idiots ... Gather the evidence and then pay them a 5am visit in a week or two when they think the heat's off.

Certainly it is usually safer to come after them when they are done rioting - less chance of anyone getting hurt in the ruck. Naturally the polis are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they wade in and people get hurt, it's police brutality. If they bide their time, collect useful evidence and make arrests after the rioting is finished, they are slow to react, incompetent, etc etc etc.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

Well sorry i am petrified about whats happening. I live in a Part of Birmingham where it was real bad.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

Trust me i know how you feel, I have been on the receiving end of riots in Londonderry and Belfast. They certainly are scary.

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All i wanted to hear was that he had authorised the use of the military to deploy there non lethal equipment to help stop the riots.

NOTE i had to say non lethal so i am not accused of inciting a shoot to kill policy :)

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

But what if it goes on for days like that?

we're assured that all those involved will eventually be 'prosecuted'

if anything it's going to spread to other cities.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

Sorry Chris,you're wrong.What the police should do,and can't cause of our liberal,lefty don't hurt anyone approach,is charge the rioters.Charge them and use water canons,tear gas and plastic bullets to disperse the rioters.
These pictures of anarchy and mayhem going round the world,sehen we are supposed to host the Olympics in a year are no good at all.

Having spent time in countries where the police do use these methods and go in HARD,I thought they were very effective.The state shouldn't allow people to loot as they please as not to 'hurt and offend' anyone.

What's needed now is robust and decisive action and cracking skulls.;)

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

I did not mean to be arsey. Just I dont think its something to joke about :(

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

Some people are ill-informed and simplistic.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

What did you think of Daves speech Hugh?

if like me, it sounds like sit tight and don't go out unless you really have to.

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That will probably only happen if they attack parliament or the palace.

as it's only the publics property that's affected at the moment. it's not such a high priority.
but we are assured that those involved will be punished with the good old 'Full Force of British Law' scary stuff Full Force is :)

if the students were to join in now we'd probably see some action from Dave. Dave won't tolerate the trouble students cause.