Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35279363)

I'd imagine customers who get TiVo, but don't actually request TiVo will get it free of charge?

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35279366)

TiVo is both software and hardware. Saying TiVo will be rolled out to the whole network does not mean giving/charging everyone for one of the two boxes out at the moment.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35279363)

I suppose it all depends when they decide to roll it our to every customer. I'd imagine customers who get TiVo, but don't actually request TiVo will get it free of charge? TiVo will be a success if Virgin claw back their costs for development, production and marketing before they start rolling it out across the whole network.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35279370)

Yeah I know but I was concerned about the £3.00 charge for the TiVo EPG, or whatever the £3.00 covers. Surely customers who don't request a TiVo update won't be expected to pay £3.00 per month for whatever version of TiVo they eventually receive.

Wow the above post finally pulls this thread back on topic, or as close to is as it's been for pages now.....mainly due to me:)

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35279373)

Virgin didn't develop anything they licensed TiVo and had it tailored to their needs. Remember Virgin is just one of Tivos customers as they are rolling this out to some of the smaller cable companies in the US and Europe. Even the box is the same one several other European cable companies are using so they didn't even have a custom box made.

This would have been far cheaper then developing one in house and as other cable companies ask for more tailoring we can expect more features being rolled out to us.

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35279373)

Remember that the EPG data is not provided by TiVo Virgin signed with Turbine who just happened to supply TiVo in the US. They could have signed with any number of providers for this service.

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35279378)

I think what would be more interesting to know is how many V+ box are out there versus standard V boxes. I would imagine that the V boxes are what the majority of customers still have.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35279379)

That would be interesting. Some of the Virgin staff who post might be able to help us out with some figures?

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35279378)

I think what would be more interesting to know is how many V+ box are out there versus standard V boxes. I would imagine that the V boxes are what the majority of customers still have.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35279379)

That would be interesting. Some of the Virgin staff who post might be able to help us out with some figures?

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35279361)

I'm not, seriously. I'm just trying to give an alternative opinion and view on this to provoke thought and debate. My opinions may not be liked by everyone, or even accurate, but that's the beauty of posting in a forum.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35279214)

From my recent posts people will think I've got a problem with Virgin but that's not the case. I'm a very happy customer however I'm concerned Virgin have all their eggs in the TiVo basket.

I totally agree with Muppetman, content is king especially in HD. Also Virgin should not under estimate the pulling power of SKY Atlantic.

I feel with TiVO Virgin are trying to telling us what we want when in fact what the majority of customers really want is new channels, not a fancy PVR.

Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35279425)

The irony being that Sky Atlantic launch statistics would make even worse reading than the Tivo numbers.

You're data mining. You already have an opinion in your head and you are twisting perfectly acceptable numbers to try to prove a point.

I'm surprised you seem to have completely taken VM statistics out of context yet Atlantic continues to underachieve and that has 'pulling power'.

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35279694)

In regards to Sky Atlantic I have to say is keep it, as I think that the channel is a pile of ?.

The only channel that I want is SCUZZ as Kerrang has become too:mad:
Also METAL SHOULD BE FOR THE MASSES AND NOT THE FEW THAT CAN HANDLE IT.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35279072)

Well the results are in:

http://investors.virginmedia.com/ima...DetailsID=1112

Page 5:

"The strong early demand for this service has matched our high expectations and, as of 26th July, we had approximately 50,000 installed TiVo customers."

As posted about 3 weeks ago on this thread I suspected Tivo was not a major sucess so far, and these figures prove it. 65,000 pre registers in April, plus a price slash at the beginning of this month and so far only 50,000 TiVo's have been installed. Got to remember there are people posting here and other forums who have 2 and even 3 TiVo boxes so it's not as if 50,000 unique customers have taken the service. Plus there was a couple of thousand customers who received TiVo free at the start too.

Poor, poor results. Maybe Virgin should refocus their attention to HD channels and other content. I suspect another price slash for TiVo will be coming soon!