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How many channels does he get? Its quite a limited number of subscribers as well is it not?

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I think he gets 10 channels. The movie channel isn't bad. To get them though you have to be in the US armed forces. His receiver is a Scientific Atlanta d9234 DVB.

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I'm suprised at the amount of people who think stealing cable can be justified as somehow right because they think it doesn't affect anybody or they dont think they are getting a good deal etc etc.

The simple fact of the matter is that it is illegal and it does effect people eventually. Stealing a service is stealing a service no matter what that service may be or how big the company is that is being stolen from.

Before I'm called a hypocrite, I will say that I have broken laws as has everybody, Nobody is completely innocent. I do have a strong sense of right and wrong and try to do right when I can.

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Well said mate, I'm not perfect by a long shot, but to go on a cable website and openly boast, as some people have, about stealing cable and how its OK to do so is beyond me.:shrug:

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I'm surprised that we hear a lot about hooky cable but little about hooky mobile phones (do they exist). Why can't the cable industry have the mobile industries record on closed systems?

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Never heard of dodgy mobiles, at a guess though I'd say its to do with pound notes.

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you can clone sims so im guessing there are

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Stealing is stealing, They would be the same ones that think its ok to steal anything as long as they get away with it. It has nothing to do with "for information purposes only or for education or to see how its done" It's ALL to do with them being thieving, stealing lowlifes who would steal from there own family given half the chance.

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There is a bloke in Gloucester thast got knicked and is no serving community service for these kind of dealings.

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So thats probably one transport stream. One PowerVu system. Virgin would need around 28, and more as new streams were added. As far as I can see nobody uses it for a large DTH system, its mainly used for distribution.

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and what is particularly annoying is these stupid illegal people who have tried to steal cable services have enforced VM into the deployment of new software which not only chops them out but also negates the workaround for the so called pin "protection" for Sky movies whereby you could for a period of hours only by the inseration of the pincode once only you could browse all the movie channels without nanny-hindrance until midnight

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Perhaps if Sky and VM gave people fair value for money with their subscriptions then people whould'nt feel the need to steal cable. I subscribe to the medium package which costs £11.50 a month for that - it's a small step up from Freeview... it's shocking value for money. But when you have Sky charging over £40 for a montly subscription to watch crap movies, you'd be best placed to go and join your local Blockbuster store. But what really hurts is is the extortionate prices they charge for viewing football matches, I mean over £10 just to watch a pay per view game ontop of your subscription you already pay!!!

If the ppv games were like £2.50 they'd probably get my business.

Sky and Virgin are the people who are pushing up prices, the people who steel cable are simply a byproduct of their (Sky and VM's) greed.

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£10 just to watch a PPV game! Even if it were £15 - £20 they'd still pay... Or maybe that's when a dodgy box would look very appealing? ;)

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Attitudes like that never fail to amuse me.

Nobody is putting a gun to these peoples' heads. No-one is forcing them to steal. They are doing it of their own free will. From experience usually these type of people are the sort who think nothing of buying stolen gear or fake designer stuff.

Now if that's how people want to do business then that's up to them, I'm not slagging them off. But to suggest it's the broadcasters who are at fault makes as much sense as Arsene Wenger after the Gunners lose a game.