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papa smurf 06-02-2026 14:10
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
where is the video:shrug:

1andrew1 06-02-2026 14:21
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36210150)
where is the video:shrug:
Truth social

Hugh 06-02-2026 14:58
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36210149)
Aren't they racist to point out such accusations?
No…

thenry 06-02-2026 15:15
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36210153)
No…
Why?

Stephen 06-02-2026 16:47
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Trump has now taken down that post. Now claiming it was not Trump that posted it

Quote:
Later on Friday, a White House official said that a staffer "erroneously" made the post, which has since been taken down.

papa smurf 06-02-2026 17:06
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
no video :shocked: case dismissed

thenry 06-02-2026 17:24
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
The Trump administration asked Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., for the Washington region’s Dulles International Airport and New York’s Penn Station to be named after President Donald Trump in exchange for releasing the federal funds required to build a long-delayed tunnel between New York and New Jersey, multiple sources told NBC News.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...sed-rcna257708

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ove-rcna247024
He must be thinking he might as well honour himself nobody else will :LOL:

Hugh 06-02-2026 17:40
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36210158)
Why?
Why are they?

thenry 06-02-2026 17:44
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36210168)
Why are they?
If it's not the intention of racism why are those calling it out not racist?

Hugh 06-02-2026 18:04
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36210169)
If it's not the intention of racism why are those calling it out not racist?
If the intention is racism those calling it out aren’t racist - like all those Republicans…

https://archive.ph/qGS3C

Quote:
The post was swiftly condemned Friday morning by Republicans in Congress, including Sen. Tim Scott (R-South Carolina), the sole Black Republican member of the Senate. Scott, who chairs the National Republican Senatorial Committee, called on the president to remove the post and said he was “praying” the video “was fake because it’s the most racist thing I’ve seen out of this White House.”
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Scott was not the only Republican in Congress to call for the removal of the video.
Rep. Michael Lawler (R-New York) wrote Friday morning in a post on X that Trump’s post “is wrong and incredibly offensive — whether intentional or a mistake — and should be deleted immediately with an apology offered.” Sen. Pete Ricketts (R-Nebraska) wrote on X that even if the post was a meme, “a reasonable person sees the racist context.” Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Mississippi) called the video “totally unacceptable.”
Do you think depicting black people as apes is racist?

nomadking 06-02-2026 18:07
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36210110)
The CBP internal assessment disagrees with your statement…

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/0...ew-immigration



Unless you think not moving is confronting someone…

And he was shot 5 seconds after someone called out "he’s got a gun!", and after the CBP agent took Pretti’s gun, so it wasn’t a split-second reaction…
Not moving when in the middle of the road and when ordered by law enforcement is aggressive and confronting. Pretti did approach the officer that used the pepper spray. Just look at the other videos of his aggressive and deranged manner. He had form when dealing with ICE.
When the agent reacted and then fired the shots, Pretti's gun was still on him and he was not lying flat down on the ground and was still struggling around. Still presenting a potential risk.
At the point where the agent has his hand on his own gun, Pretti is on his knees, and the agent that removed Pretti's gun is hunched over and hasn't yet got the gun. The start of the reaction process would've been a fraction of second before any of that.
Attachment 31724
Another protestor bit off the finger of an ICE agent. That's how deranged the protestors are.

nomadking 06-02-2026 18:15
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36210171)
If the intention is racism those calling it out aren’t racist - like all those Republicans…

https://archive.ph/qGS3C

Do you think depicting black people as apes is racist?
Chimpanzees have white skin.
Biden was also portrayed, so how that fit?
As your previous post points out, the full video is of Trump as "King of the Jungle", with Democrats featuring as various animals.
Now compare with all the things said about various Republicans.

Chris 06-02-2026 18:21
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210173)
Chimpanzees have white skin.
Biden was also portrayed, so how that fit?
As your previous post points out, the full video is of Trump as "King of the Jungle", with Democrats featuring as various animals.
Now compare with all the things said about various Republicans.
Your contrarianism is entertaining sometimes. Other times it’s just tedious. Comparing black people to primates is one of the most ancient of racist tropes. Nobody - nobody - in a country like the USA does *not* know that. “Hiding” this jibe against the Obamas in plain sight by surrounding it with other similar images does little more than give fodder to the useful idiots they know will jump in and defend it. Take away from that what you will.

nomadking 06-02-2026 18:23
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36210174)
Your contrarianism is entertaining sometimes. Other times it’s just tedious. Comparing black people to primates is one of the most ancient of racist tropes. Nobody - nobody - in a country like the USA does *not* know that. “Hiding” this jibe against the Obamas in plain sight by surrounding it with other similar images does little more than give fodder to the useful idiots they know will jump in and defend it. Take away from that what you will.
So what is comparing Biden to an ape mean?

thenry 06-02-2026 18:31
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
People are backwards I swear :rolleyes:

Chris 06-02-2026 18:37
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210175)
So what is comparing Biden to an ape mean?
It means there’s just enough camouflage around the racist insult to make total idiots think the racist insult isn’t there.

Stephen 06-02-2026 18:58
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210172)
Not moving when in the middle of the road and when ordered by law enforcement is aggressive and confronting. Pretti did approach the officer that used the pepper spray. Just look at the other videos of his aggressive and deranged manner. He had form when dealing with ICE.
When the agent reacted and then fired the shots, Pretti's gun was still on him and he was not lying flat down on the ground and was still struggling around. Still presenting a potential risk.
At the point where the agent has his hand on his own gun, Pretti is on his knees, and the agent that removed Pretti's gun is hunched over and hasn't yet got the gun. The start of the reaction process would've been a fraction of second before any of that.
Attachment 31724
Another protestor bit off the finger of an ICE agent. That's how deranged the protestors are.
There is absolutely nothing aggressive from Pretti at all. He simply tried to help a woman up and then got pepper sprayed multiple times and jumped on by 5-6 thugs, he was the one being assaulted. I suppose you think that ICE behaviour here was perfectly fine and acceptable? The actual police would not have behaved in that manor, as they actually have more training on how to deal with such situations and aren't just armed thugs.

nomadking 06-02-2026 19:26
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36210182)
There is absolutely nothing aggressive from Pretti at all. He simply tried to help a woman up and then got pepper sprayed multiple times and jumped on by 5-6 thugs, he was the one being assaulted. I suppose you think that ICE behaviour here was perfectly fine and acceptable? The actual police would not have behaved in that manor, as they actually have more training on how to deal with such situations and aren't just armed thugs.
He didn't go to help anybody. He approached and confronted the agent, who then pepper sprayed him. Have you seen his other examples of behaviour towards ICE?
Only 2 or 3 or perhaps 4, agents made any physical contact with him.
The struggles the agents had trying to restrain him, show how aggressive he was. If you're carrying a gun and get involved with law enforcement, you behave yourself, to avoid any potential misunderstandings.
Difficult to pin down examples, because different words that can be used and are ones that are commonly used elsewhere in other ways.
Link
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“Put your hands behind your back. Don’t move!” McGowan can be heard shouting in the video. “He’s got a gun, he’s got a gun!”
Despite the man’s repeated denials that he was carrying a weapon, officers later recovered a firearm from his waistband. A struggle ensued between the man and the officers, with McGowan repeatedly warning him that she would shoot if he continued resisting.

Stephen 06-02-2026 20:01
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210183)
He didn't go to help anybody. He approached and confronted the agent, who then pepper sprayed him. Have you seen his other examples of behaviour towards ICE?
Only 2 or 3 or perhaps 4, agents made any physical contact with him.
The struggles the agents had trying to restrain him, show how aggressive he was. If you're carrying a gun and get involved with law enforcement, you behave yourself, to avoid any potential misunderstandings.
Difficult to pin down examples, because different words that can be used and are ones that are commonly used elsewhere in other ways.
Link
None of that happened in Pretti's situation though. So it is totally irrelevant he was also not being aggressive at all. All the aggression was against him.

I am sure you would struggle and panic too having been pepper sprayed, beaten and then pinned to the ground by multiple people. You really are delusional in you views of the progression of events up till his murder.

nomadking 06-02-2026 20:56
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36210184)
None of that happened in Pretti's situation though. So it is totally irrelevant he was also not being aggressive at all. All the aggression was against him.

I am sure you would struggle and panic too having been pepper sprayed, beaten and then pinned to the ground by multiple people. You really are delusional in you views of the progression of events up till his murder.
Another protestor was pepper sprayed at the same time that Pretti was sprayed for the 2nd time and they didn't struggle and panic.
Any "beating" was BECAUSE was the resisting. Not sure of the timings, but if at that point, they had seen his gun, it might've been a distraction technique. Have you seen his other behaviour? Kicking and smashing tail lights and spitting. He resisted then, and even broke free of the agents. His intent was clear, to struggle free.
So do things in the picture match what I described?

1andrew1 06-02-2026 21:23
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210187)
So do things in the picture match what I described?
No.

nomadking 06-02-2026 21:28
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36210188)
No.
How?
Agent with hand on his own gun.Pretti still has his own gun. Only 2 officers tackling him. Pretti kneeling and resisting. Another agent bending and about to remove Pretti's gun. All there in a single image.

Hugh 06-02-2026 23:38
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210189)
How?
Agent with hand on his own gun.Pretti still has his own gun. Only 2 officers tackling him. Pretti kneeling and resisting. Another agent bending and about to remove Pretti's gun. All there in a single image.
2 agents?

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1770424693

I think this sums up your posts on this subject


Paul 07-02-2026 02:13
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36210184)
You really are delusional in you views of the progression of events up till his murder.
I refer you to my previous post, your still wasting your time here. ;)
Its like an AI programmed to defend ICE, no matter what anyone says.

nomadking 07-02-2026 05:42
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36210198)
2 agents?

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1770424693

I think this sums up your posts on this subject

Still only 2 agents in your picture restraining him. The legs on the middle, belong to Pretti himself.
As the annotation in your 2nd picture says,, "appears to". When he does finally remove Pretti's gun, he quickly moves away with it. The fact that he's still there, means he hasn't yet got hold of it. So in my picture, Pretti still has the gun on him, because the agent is still there.
Even your pictures show that Pretti was resisting and wasn't fully restrained and wasn't lying down on the ground.
So what of the 5 things I said about my picture aren't true?
The first shot occurs as the other agent runs away with Pretti's gun. Because of reaction times, and the time it takes to physically move, the trained autonomous actions were a result of the situation a fraction of a second before.
None of the agents were wildly brandishing their guns around looking for somebody to shoot, as so many seem to be implying.
It was only in that specific situation that a gun was drawn and fired. Whether an over-reaction or not, it was the situation Pretti created, that led to the result.
Here's a picture of Pretti being pepper sprayed. He's NOT helping the other protestor at the time, as is claimed.
Attachment 31726
Comedian Chris Rock made a video 20 years ago about how best to behave in a law enforcement encounter. Pretti broke just about every applicable rule in that video, and not for the first time.

1andrew1 07-02-2026 12:26
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210205)
Still only 2 agents in your picture restraining him. The legs on the middle, belong to Pretti himself.
As the annotation in your 2nd picture says,, "appears to". When he does finally remove Pretti's gun, he quickly moves away with it. The fact that he's still there, means he hasn't yet got hold of it. So in my picture, Pretti still has the gun on him, because the agent is still there.
Even your pictures show that Pretti was resisting and wasn't fully restrained and wasn't lying down on the ground.
So what of the 5 things I said about my picture aren't true?
The first shot occurs as the other agent runs away with Pretti's gun. Because of reaction times, and the time it takes to physically move, the trained autonomous actions were a result of the situation a fraction of a second before.
None of the agents were wildly brandishing their guns around looking for somebody to shoot, as so many seem to be implying.
It was only in that specific situation that a gun was drawn and fired. Whether an over-reaction or not, it was the situation Pretti created, that led to the result.
Here's a picture of Pretti being pepper sprayed. He's NOT helping the other protestor at the time, as is claimed.
Attachment 31726
Comedian Chris Rock made a video 20 years ago about how best to behave in a law enforcement encounter. Pretti broke just about every applicable rule in that video, and not for the first time.
I make that at least four agents around him, not two.

Was it an over-reaction to kill someone who was clearly no threat and then continue to fire shots into their prone body to ensure they couldn't live to tell the tale. Yes.

By being there, Pretti was helping the other protestor.

I'm not sure a 20-year-old video from a comedian in another country on the best way to deal with law enforcement encounters would have much credibility in dealing with such maverick ICE officers in 2026. This just sucks of victim blaming.

But I accept you've adopted a pro-ICE stance which won't be altered by posters providing information that runs contrary to your position.

nomadking 07-02-2026 18:57
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36209584)
https://archive.ph/7Y7oo

There’s a video showing him and a woman being shoved to the ground by ICE, he then tries to help the woman up, the ICE agents (5 or 6) throw him to the ground, where he is on his knees with his head to the ground (his arms are pinned behind him), it’s noticed by the agents he has a pistol in the back of his trousers (Minnesota is an "open carry" State), one of the ICE Agents remove the pistol (this is clearly visible in the agent’s hand), then a shot rings out, the victim falls flat to the ground, the agents scatter about five feet from the victim, then one of the ICE agents shoots him five or six more times.
You said 5 or 6.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36210210)
I make that at least four agents around him, not two.
Was it an over-reaction to kill someone who was clearly no threat and then continue to fire shots into their prone body to ensure they couldn't live to tell the tale. Yes.
By being there, Pretti was helping the other protestor.
I'm not sure a 20-year-old video from a comedian in another country on the best way to deal with law enforcement encounters would have much credibility in dealing with such maverick ICE officers in 2026. This just sucks of victim blaming.
But I accept you've adopted a pro-ICE stance which won't be altered by posters providing information that runs contrary to your position.
As you finally admitted, and I did specify("Only 2 or 3 or perhaps 4, agents made any physical contact with him.").
At no point did Pretti specifically try to help anyone, and certainly NOT before being pepper sprayed as people keep claiming. He went up to the agent, ignoring the woman. That is why and when he was pepper sprayed.
Clearly no threat? People on this planet are NOT mind-readers, and even if they were the deranged demeanour and behaviour of Pretti would indicate a possible threat. They had no idea of what he might do next.
They are TRAINED to respond, without having to get a Health & Safety Assessment, Disability impact assessment, criminal records check, and psych report for the person they're dealing with.
Nothing has happened by ICE, that wouldn't have likely happened around the World, with armed law enforcement in those SPECIFIC situations.
Chris Rock is American and was talking about the common sense things of how to behave when dealing with US armed law enforcement. Pretti broke each and every one of the applicable ideas in the video, and also had done so in a previous ICE encounter.
We don't know the reason, for the 2nd batch of shots, but that is IRRELEVANT. It is common in that situation for another officer to fire. DO THE RESEARCH.
ICE protestors are deranged. How else do you explain biting a finger off a federal agent?
I've adopted a Pro FACTS stance. Strange concept, I know.
ICE are NOT going around with handguns drawn and randomly shooting people. Very limited use in specific situations.


Was Pretti armed? Was he fully restrained and flat on the ground? Was he resisting? Did he heavily resist in a previous encounter with ICE? Did he go to help the woman and then was peppered sprayed? Or was it he went up to the agent and then was peppered sprayed? Was it 2 or 3 actively trying to restrain him, or was it 5 or 6 as you claimed?

jem 07-02-2026 19:36
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36210203)
I refer you to my previous post, your still wasting your time here. ;)
Its like an AI programmed to defend ICE, no matter what anyone says.
I always try to argue facts with people who see things a different way; but in this case, I fear you are quite correct and it is pointless to proceed.

nomadking 07-02-2026 19:59
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jem (Post 36210224)
I always try to argue facts with people who see things a different way; but in this case, I fear you are quite correct and it is pointless to proceed.
So have I said anything that is false, and that isn't backed up by videos, images, and research?


Eg People having been saying that Pretti went to help a woman and was then pepper sprayed. Video doesn't come close to showing that.


Renee Good incident. If it had been an ICE officer driving the vehicle and driven at a protestor and hit them, my observations about the movement of the car would've been the same. That would be because of the facts in the videos. The driving was at best, reckless, whoever was driving.

Hugh 07-02-2026 20:53
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210225)
So have I said anything that is false, and that isn't backed up by videos, images, and research?


Eg People having been saying that Pretti went to help a woman and was then pepper sprayed. Video doesn't come close to showing that.


Renee Good incident. If it had been an ICE officer driving the vehicle and driven at a protestor and hit them, my observations about the movement of the car would've been the same. That would be because of the facts in the videos. The driving was at best, reckless, whoever was driving.
Almost everything…

Even Stephen Miller thinks that the ICE agents may not have followed protocol, and this is a person who was expelled from Hell by Satan because he was too evil…

Dingbat 07-02-2026 21:17
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36210228)
Almost everything…

Even Stephen Miller thinks that the ICE agents may not have followed protocol, and this is a person who was expelled from Hell by Satan because he was too evil…
Well, if even Wormtongue says that….

1andrew1 08-02-2026 10:31
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210221)
At no point did Pretti specifically try to help anyone, and certainly NOT before being pepper sprayed as people keep claiming. He went up to the agent, ignoring the woman. That is why and when he was pepper sprayed.
By being there, he was helping the woman.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210221)
Clearly no threat? People on this planet are NOT mind-readers, and even if they were the deranged demeanour and behaviour of Pretti would indicate a possible threat. They had no idea of what he might do next.
You talk about evidence but here you are describing a protestor as having a deranged demeanour with no evidence to back that up! Malinformation. Enforcement officers should be trained to read the room, not shoot first and then ask questions afterwards.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210221)
They are TRAINED to respond, without having to get a Health & Safety Assessment, Disability impact assessment, criminal records check, and psych report for the person they're dealing with.
This is just waffle, do other forces need to get disability impact assessments, for example, before responding? If they're professional, any response should be to minimise the loss of human life.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210221)
Nothing has happened by ICE, that wouldn't have likely happened around the World, with armed law enforcement in those SPECIFIC situations.
And yet again, no evidence to back this statement up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210221)
Chris Rock is American and was talking about the common sense things of how to behave when dealing with US armed law enforcement. Pretti broke each and every one of the applicable ideas in the video, and also had done so in a previous ICE encounter.
I'm sorry but that's a ridiculous source for good practice for the general public. You're also back to victim-blaming again.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210221)
We don't know the reason, for the 2nd batch of shots, but that is IRRELEVANT. It is common in that situation for another officer to fire. DO THE RESEARCH.
Until we know the reason its relevancy cannot be conveniently discarded. It could show a lack of training, it could show ICE out of control and acting on emotions or something far worse.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210221)
ICE protestors are deranged. How else do you explain biting a finger off a federal agent?
An alien descending from Mars reading this statement would instantly know that the rest of the post should be taken with a severe health warning! You cannot extrapolate the behaviour of one protestor on one occasion and state that it applies to all protestors. No ifs, buts and maybes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210221)
I've adopted a Pro FACTS stance.
I really hope that you do not believe this and are just saying this to try and bolster your argument. Your post is riddled with malinformation and misinformation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210221)
Strange concept, I know.
ICE are NOT going around with handguns drawn and randomly shooting people.
We've not said that they are. A classic misinformation technique - deny something outrageous that no poster has actually said.

TheDaddy 08-02-2026 14:18
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36210236)

Until we know the reason its relevancy cannot be conveniently discarded. It could show a lack of training, it could show ICE out of control and acting on emotions or something far worse.
These guys have been with ICE over 10 years each iirc, one might be closer to 20 years, when it comes to training or lack there of these guys have no excuses, I did see one of the government lawyers Julie le iirc break down in court last week and begging to be put in jail because her job sucks and she can't keep up with the mountain of constitutional complaints which made me laugh

thenry 09-02-2026 14:40
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Bad Bunny has made history by becoming the first Super Bowl half-time show headliner to perform entirely in Spanish - and to host a wedding during the performance.

https://news.sky.com/story/bad-bunny...rible-13505139
It was shit :rolleyes:

Carth 09-02-2026 14:43
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36210266)
It was shit :rolleyes:
What did you expect?

thenry 09-02-2026 14:46
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36210267)
What did you expect?
Hugh thought I was a fan so I was optimistic only to be let down . I'll stick to my own guns.

Paul 09-02-2026 16:01
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
So trump called it the "Worst Ever" & "an affront to the Greatness of America".

How does he know, unless he watched it all anyway ? :rolleyes:

Also "nobody understands a word this guy is saying"

Well duh ... you dont speak Spanish :dozey:

I would imagine anyone who speaks Spanish was fine.

For the record, I did not watch the Half Time show, not a rap fan at all.

Dingbat 09-02-2026 16:30
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36210266)
It was shit :rolleyes:
You mean you didn’t subscribe to the Turning Point half time show, to see Kid Rock instead?

thenry 09-02-2026 16:32
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Nope. No idea it was on. I was streaming NBC for the whole superbowl experience.

Hugh 10-02-2026 18:24
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
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Mango Mussolini’s off his meds…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1770751428

Paul 10-02-2026 19:54
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
LOL, He's just completely unhinged.

Stephen 10-02-2026 21:05
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Isn't the bridge a deal between Ontario and Michigan, being 100% funded by Canada but it will be a 50/50 ownership with Michigan? Michigan would be hot the most of the bridge doesn't open as planned from what I read.

The rest is utter delusion and mental illness.

Hugh 11-02-2026 11:59
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Curious…

El Paso handles about 100,000 flights and around 5 million passengers a year.

The NOTAM states

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“The Federal Aviation Administration classifies the airspace defined in this NOTAM as ‘HTL Defense Airspace’. Pilots who do not adhere to the following proc may be intercepted, detained and interviewed by law enforcement/security personnel. The United States government may use deadly force against the airborne aircraft, if it is determined that the aircraft poses an imminent security threat
https://apnews.com/article/faa-el-pa...0e7003df709caa

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EL PASO, Texas (AP) — The Federal Aviation Administration is closing the airspace around El Paso International Airport in Texas for 10 days, grounding all flights to and from the airport.

A notice posted on the FAA’s website said the temporary flight restrictions were for “special security reasons,” but did not provide additional details. The closure does not include Mexican airspace.

The airport said in an Instagram post that all flights to and from the airport would be grounded from late Tuesday through late on Feb. 20, including commercial, cargo and general aviation flights. It suggested travelers contact their airlines to get up-to-date flight information.

The shutdown is likely to create significant disruptions given the duration and the size of the metropolitan area. El Paso, a border city with a population of nearly 700,000 and larger when you include the surrounding metro area, is hub of cross-border commerce alongside neighboring Ciudad Juarez in Mexico.

The airport describes itself as the gateway to west Texas, southern New Mexico and northern Mexico. Southwest, United, American and Delta all operate flights there, among others.
For comparison, the FAA only closed airspace for 2 days after 9/11…

https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/f...urity-concerns

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“All flights to and from El Paso are grounded, including commercial, cargo and general aviation. The FAA has issued a flight restriction halting all flights to and from El Paso effective from February 10 at 11:30 PM (MST) to February 20 at 11:30PM (MST),” said an airport spokesperson.

The spokesperson added: “Travelers should contact their airlines to get most up-to-date flight status information.”

It is understood that the airspace over a major US city has not been closed since the 9/11 terrorist attack unfolded in New York on September 11, 2026.

“All air traffic has been halted in a 10 nautical mile range around the airport, so encompassing El Paso and Fort Bliss, from the ground to 17,000 feet. So, no aircraft in or out, regardless of what they are, whether it’s air carriers, military, medevac helicopters, law enforcement. Nobody can fly as this thing is written up,” an undisclosed source told website El Paso Matters

1andrew1 11-02-2026 12:12
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36210297)
Mango Mussolini’s off his meds…
Aren't Trump's team meant to check his posts before they go out, so he can blame them if they're racist, sexist, exhibit signs of a mental disability, etc?

Looks like they messed up again then!

Hugh 11-02-2026 13:22
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36210316)
Curious…

El Paso handles about 100,000 flights and around 5 million passengers a year.

The NOTAM states



https://apnews.com/article/faa-el-pa...0e7003df709caa



For comparison, the FAA only closed airspace for 2 days after 9/11…

https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/f...urity-concerns
And….

It’s lifted.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1770819686

How very strange..

Chris 11-02-2026 13:40
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36210301)
Isn't the bridge a deal between Ontario and Michigan, being 100% funded by Canada but it will be a 50/50 ownership with Michigan? Michigan would be hot the most of the bridge doesn't open as planned from what I read.

The rest is utter delusion and mental illness.
I’ve seen this described this morning as ‘like dealing with Al Capone in his syphilitic stage’. :D

Stephen 11-02-2026 13:54
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36210325)
I’ve seen this described this morning as ‘like dealing with Al Capone in his syphilitic stage’. :D
Sounds about right. :D

Hugh 14-02-2026 16:12
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://wapo.st/4rVMmyp

Quote:
ICE officers suspended after making ‘untruthful statements’ about shooting

The federal immigration officers are facing a criminal inquiry after new evidence surfaced contradicting their accounts after the Jan. 14 shooting of a Venezuelan man.

Two immigration officers have been suspended and are facing a criminal investigation into whether they lied under oath about the shooting of a Venezuelan man in Minneapolis last month.


The Department of Homeland Security said Friday that a recent review of video evidence revealed that the officers “appear to have made untruthful statements” in sworn testimony given as part of a case charging two men — including the shooting victim, Julio Cesar Sosa-Celis — with attacking immigration agents.

A federal judge dismissed the charges against Sosa-Celis and his co-defendant Thursday after the U.S. attorney in Minneapolis said that “newly discovered evidence” was “materially inconsistent with the allegations” the officers had made…

… Since last summer, officers from ICE, Border Patrol and Homeland Security Investigations have been involved in at least 16 such shootings, including three that were fatal. None of the officers has faced criminal charges.

By contrast, federal authorities have pursued felony counts in 10 cases against people who were fired at by the officers, accusing them of being the aggressors.

In half of those cases, including the one involving Aljorna and Sosa-Celis, prosecutors have either dropped charges or a judge has dismissed them after evidence emerged contradicting the government’s narrative of events.
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/02/2.gif

Anonymouse 19-02-2026 13:57
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
In other news, he's getting out of hand again.

Now what do we call Trump trying to enlist Schumer's aid by unfreezing billions of dollars in federal funding?

I know: how about "BRIBE"?!

Why doesn't the prat (not the word I originally used, but on previewing the post, which I always do in case I've made a typo in the link, it censored said word) go all the way and rename the entire country - or, hell, why not the entire bloody world? - after himself?

There's Republican talk of adding his face to Mount Rushmore. That had better be just talk - there's no room for another face there. The only option would be to do a Zod and...I can't even type it. The four Presidents immortalised there deserved to be. They earned their place in history. What, other than ruining everything, has this moron done?

Hugh 19-02-2026 17:59
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...ed-2026-02-19/

Quote:
Trump said the United States will contribute $10 billion to the Board of Peace. He did not say where the money would come from or whether he would seek it from the U.S. Congress.
From a previous post in this thread

Quote:
Decisions of the Executive Board shall be made by a majority of its members present and voting, including the Chief Executive. Such decisions shall go into effect immediately, subject to veto by the Chairman at any time thereafter.
Quote:
Internal disputes between and among Board of Peace Members, entities, and personnel with respect to matters related to the Board of Peace should be resolved through amicable collaboration, consistent with the organizational authorities established by the Charter, and for such purposes, the Chairman is the final authority regarding the meaning, interpretation, and application of this Charter.

1andrew1 20-02-2026 09:05
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I see Trump is throwing his toys out of his pram again as the UK won't allow him to use its bases to attack Iran.

Surely he'd have been better off keeping quiet about this, as Iran now knows his threat is less easy to carry out?

Hugh 20-02-2026 09:20
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36210925)
I see Trump is throwing his toys out of his pram again as the UK won't allow him to use its bases to attack Iran.

Surely he'd have been better off keeping quiet about this, as Iran now knows his threat is less easy to carry out?
That would assume he’s compos mentis…

Carth 20-02-2026 09:53
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
The bloke has decided he's no longer paying towards NATO (or whatever it was/is) and yet now wants to use European bases for his latest fight.

I reckon we could loan him the bases at . . ooh . . let's say $1bn a day :D

Sephiroth 20-02-2026 10:26
Re: President Trump 2.0
 

Trump has his lucid moments. Like decrying (and I hope stopping) the Chagos travesty, albeit in retaliation for Starmer’s stupid refusal to allow the US to use Fairford as a bomber launch base.

Hugh 20-02-2026 10:49
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Yeh, just want we need from the Leader of the most powerful nation on the planet, with a military budget bigger than the nine next largest countries military budgets (and three times more than the next largest, China) - lucid moments…

papa smurf 20-02-2026 11:21
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36210937)

Trump has his lucid moments. Like decrying (and I hope stopping) the Chagos travesty, albeit in retaliation for Starmer’s stupid refusal to allow the US to use Fairford as a bomber launch base.
why would the words most powerful military need any help from "freeloaders"

Sephiroth 20-02-2026 11:57
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36210949)
why would the words most powerful military need any help from "freeloaders"
How are you, me and Carth going to successfully run the UK if you publicly question my words!?

No - seriously though; the UK hosts the USAF so less of a freeloader. Our closest ally needs our support, even though that narcissist is in charge. This one is a good cause, imo.

Hugh 20-02-2026 14:30
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Whoopsie!

https://wapo.st/4cEDyIH

Quote:
The Supreme Court on Friday struck down most of President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs, a ruling that deals a major blow to his signature economic policy and represents a stinging political setback.

The justices ruled the president did not have the authority under a 1977 emergency economic powers law to impose a vast array of import levies on goods from nearly all of the nation’s trading partners.

The decision is expected to reverberate widely, affecting global trade, consumers, companies, inflation and the pocketbooks of every American.

The stakes of the ruling are enormous: The tariffs affect trillions of dollars in trade and the government has collected nearly $134 billion in levies through Dec. 14 under the authority challenged in the case. The Tax Foundation estimated Trump’s trade war cost American households roughly $1,100 each in 2025.
This was a 6–3 decision - Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the majority opinion, joined by Justices Sotomayor, Kagan, Gorsuch, Barrett, and Jackson. Justice Kavanaugh dissented, joined by Justices Thomas and Alito.

From BBC

Quote:
The tariffs affected by Friday's ruling:

The country-wide tariffs Trump imposed on most of the world.

The ruling centres on Trump’s use of a 1977 law, the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA), that gives the president the power to "regulate" trade in response to an emergency.

Trump first invoked it in February 2025 to tax goods from China, Mexico and Canada, saying drug trafficking from those countries constituted an emergency.

He deployed it again in April, ordering levies from 10% to 50% on goods from almost every country in the world. He said the US trade deficit – where the US imports more than it exports – posed an "extraordinary and unusual threat".

The unaffected tariffs

The industry-specific steel, aluminium, lumber and automotive tariffs, which were implemented under Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962, citing national-security concerns.

---------- Post added at 15:30 ---------- Previous post was at 15:17 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36210955)
How are you, me and Carth going to successfully run the UK if you publicly question my words!?

No - seriously though; the UK hosts the USAF so less of a freeloader. Our closest ally needs our support, even though that narcissist is in charge. This one is a good cause, imo.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...Z16g/giphy.gif

thenry 20-02-2026 15:20
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36210963)
Whoopsie!
done a poopsie

Well that's shit news ain't it. To become more reliant on itself it has broken rules. How shitty trying to do right thing for its own cause. :shrug:

Chris 20-02-2026 15:27
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36210965)
done a poopsie

Well that's shit news ain't it. To become more reliant on itself it has broken rules. How shitty trying to do right thing for its own cause. :shrug:
Yeah, how awful that governments aren’t above the law. :erm:

Hugh 20-02-2026 16:28
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36210965)
done a poopsie

Well that's shit news ain't it. To become more reliant on itself it has broken rules. How shitty trying to do right thing for its own cause. :shrug:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36210967)
Yeah, how awful that governments aren’t above the law. :erm:
I think this article from King’s College last year sums it up…

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/trumps-tariffs...will-they-work

Quote:
“To me, the most beautiful word in the dictionary is tariff, and it’s my favorite word”, Donald Trump said in 2024*. He wasted no time following his inauguration on 20 January 2025 in announcing a 25 per cent tariff on Canada and Mexico, which he said were taking advantage of the US. “I look at some of these agreements" he continued*, "and I'd say ‘Who would ever sign a thing like this?’". Fun fact: the US-Mexico-Canada (USMCA) trade agreement was signed by Donald Trump in 2020.

And here is the central problem with trying to make sense of what the Trump administration is doing on trade. There is precious little coherence to the pronouncements he makes, and little exposition of precisely what the administration wants to achieve. Some of the claims are obviously nonsense, but are endlessly repeated by the administration regardless. An example is the assertion that the tariffs will be paid by foreign governments, not consumers – a claim that should be self-evidently false. Or the stated justification for targeting Canada being the flow of Fentanyl and migrants across the border, when both are insignificant.

And a second problem is the lack of direction. Tariffs are announced, then postponed, then put in place, then partially cancelled again, then increased when affected countries retaliate, and so on in an endless confusion of mixed messages and disorder.

This factor has prompted the question whether the Trump approach to tariffs is (i) strategic – in which the chaos is a deliberate ploy to make trading partners more willing to offer concessions, fearful of what is coming next from an president that is carefully crafting a reputation for unpredictability; or (ii) just chaos with no real underlying strategy, being made up largely on the hoof by a president who does not know much and is uninterested in the complexities of public policy. Alan Beattie at the Financial Times* examined this question, coming down on the side of the latter option.
Quote:
The model of manufacturing that underpins Trump’s approach simply hasn’t existed for the best part of 40 years, and is not coming back.

Moreover, the loss of manufacturing jobs is much more a result of increased productivity than foreign competition. The Center for Economic Policy and Research has done a rough calculation* on this that is a useful yardstick. If Trump were to succeed in balancing US trade exclusively through expanding manufacturing, they would need to increase production by around $906bn. This equates to an increase of 12.6% of current manufacturing production. Since roughly 12.8 million workers are currently employed within manufacturing, a 12.6% increase would lead to about 1.6 million new jobs. While this may sound significant, it is only around 1.0% of the current total US non-farm employment.

In short, manufacturing jobs are not coming back. Once upon a time the majority of people were employed in agriculture, but increased farm productivity put an end to that. The same is now happening in manufacturing. Reversing this trend is no more likely than great swathes of workers returning to farming.
tl;dr - Trump’s not trying to do the "right thing", because he keeps changing his mind about what the "right thing" is…

Hugh 20-02-2026 20:08
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Trump and Vance taking the Supreme Court ruling well…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c0l9r67drg7t

Quote:
Some of the first words we heard from Trump after he came to the podium were that the decision was "deeply disappointing" and that he was ashamed of "certain members of the court for not having the courage to do what's right for our country"…

… The president accused the Supreme Court of being "swayed by foreign interests", without providing any evidence…

…We're hearing from Vice-President JD Vance who has called the ruling "lawlessness from the court, plain and simple"…

… He is asked if he was surprised Justices Amy Coney Barrett and Neil Gorsuch, who he nominated in his first term, ruled against his tariff powers and if he regrets nominating them.

"I am," he says referring to being surprised by their ruling.

"I don't want to say whether I regret. I think their decision was terrible. I think it is an embarrassment to their families, you want to know the truth, the two of them."

Mr K 20-02-2026 20:34
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Diversionary tactics incoming...

He's authorised the release of files on UFOs and aliens. If that doesnt work, then bomb Iran.

daveeb 23-02-2026 15:20
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36210997)
Diversionary tactics incoming...

He's authorised the release of files on UFOs and aliens. If that doesnt work, then bomb Iran.
...and if that doesn't work bomb Area 51 ;)

Hugh 23-02-2026 15:33
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36211138)
...and if that doesn't work bomb Area 51 ;)
And if that doesn’t work, blame Iran for bombing Area 51…

jem 23-02-2026 15:55
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211139)
And if that doesn’t work, blame Iran for bombing Area 51…
No, no, no. Blame Greenland surely?

Dingbat 23-02-2026 15:56
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jem (Post 36211140)
No, no, no. Blame Greenland surely?
After they refused to accept his offer of two hospital ships to take care of their sick, too!

jem 23-02-2026 19:44
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36211141)
After they refused to accept his offer of two hospital ships to take care of their sick, too!
It’s really, really strange, he simply doesn’t have a clue does he about how the world works? I blame too many ‘yes men/women'

Hugh 28-02-2026 06:48
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Here we go again…

Quote:
President Donald Trump, in a video posted on Truth Social, has confirmed that the U.S. has begun “major combat operations in Iran." He said the objective of the operation is to “defend the American people by eliminating imminent threats from the Iranian regime.”
https://wapo.st/4aIefnS

Stephen 28-02-2026 06:54
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Take his 'peace' prize away. He seems way too eager to attack lately.

Hugh 28-02-2026 07:05
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36211419)
Take his 'peace' prize away. He seems way too eager to attack lately.
He’s framing this as a “preemptive attack” when the entire purpose is to provoke a response from Iran in order to justify ongoing and more extensive strikes…

Sephiroth 28-02-2026 07:51
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
With a bit of luck, the Iranian regime will be offed.

papa smurf 28-02-2026 07:52
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
This is drastic even for a friend of Jeffery, wasn't redacting the files working in his favour now he starts a war to distract the world

Hugh 28-02-2026 07:53
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211422)
With a bit of luck, the Iranian regime will be offed.
Hope is not a strategy…

1andrew1 28-02-2026 08:06
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
From what I've read, this could be a negotiating tactic by the Americans as talls are scheduled for Thursday. The meesage being, start negotiating!

One reason given for this was that the strikes were conducted in broad daylight and were not top military targets. A military-led operation would usually be under the cover of darkness and at military bases.

---------- Post added at 09:06 ---------- Previous post was at 09:04 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211425)
Hope is not a strategy…
You had me there Hugh, I thought I was on the Starmer thread for a minute! :D

Hugh 28-02-2026 09:06
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211422)
With a bit of luck, the Iranian regime will be offed.
Very unlikely, as this "surprise attack" has been in the very visible offing for the last week or so, give the senior people lots of time to get dispersed to different secure sites.

If the aim is to decapitate the Iranian leadership, it would have to be along the lines of the Reagan ‘86 surprise bombing of Libya (Operation El Dorado Canyon).

mrmistoffelees 28-02-2026 09:17
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211422)
With a bit of luck, the Iranian regime will be offed.
A shame the same can’t be said for the current Israeli regime

Sephiroth 28-02-2026 11:07
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211425)
Hope is not a strategy…
I don't make the strategy. I hope that Iran (regime) is offed - and any reasonable person would agree.

---------- Post added at 12:07 ---------- Previous post was at 12:04 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36211429)
A shame the same can’t be said for the current Israeli regime
Unlike Iran, democratic elections are due in Israel next October.

mrmistoffelees 28-02-2026 11:14
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211433)
I don't make the strategy. I hope that Iran (regime) is offed - and any reasonable person would agree.

---------- Post added at 12:07 ---------- Previous post was at 12:04 ----------



Unlike Iran, democratic elections are due in Israel next October.
So we’re deciding on if a regime is decent or not based on if they hold democratic elections ?

TheDaddy 28-02-2026 11:20
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36211435)
So we’re deciding on if a regime is decent or not based on if they hold democratic elections ?
Some democracy when systemic discrimination is at its heart

Sephiroth 28-02-2026 11:23
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36211435)
So we’re deciding on if a regime is decent or not based on if they hold democratic elections ?
I didn't say that and you know it. Israel's people have the democratic opportunity to change their regime in October 2026. That cannot be said for Iran's people, where their regime has promised to wipe Israel from the map. And Hamas was Iran's proxy.

mrmistoffelees 28-02-2026 11:34
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211437)
I didn't say that and you know it. Israel's people have the democratic opportunity to change their regime in October 2026. That cannot be said for Iran's people, where their regime has promised to wipe Israel from the map. And Hamas was Iran's proxy.
Ah so you’re advocating war for regime change ?

An assault spearheaded by two countries one of which has already done the same thing closer to home and the other country whose attitudes towards their own possession of nuclear weapons could be described at best as murky.

Seems legit…..

Let’s not pretend this is about saving the Iranian people from their regime

Sephiroth 28-02-2026 11:46
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36211438)
Ah so you’re advocating war for regime change ?

An assault spearheaded by two countries one of which has already done the same thing closer to home and the other country whose attitudes towards their own possession of nuclear weapons could be described at best as murky.

Seems legit…..

Let’s not pretend this is about saving the Iranian people from their regime
I didn't say that either. I merely hope that the Iran regime is offed as a result of the US/Israeli attack.

I've pretended nothing. Good try (not).

mrmistoffelees 28-02-2026 11:48
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211439)
I didn't say that either. I merely hope that the Iran regime is offed as a result of the US/Israeli attack.

I've pretended nothing. Good try (not).
From your perspective , the legitimate reason for the attack would be ?

Itshim 28-02-2026 13:43
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36211440)
From your perspective , the legitimate reason for the attack would be ?
Is there ever? Since the beginning of time the countries /tribes has always attacked each other. Nothing changes. But they will always find justification. The perverse side of my would like to see the manbaby get a bloody nose, :shocked:

Hugh 28-02-2026 18:29
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I wonder if the USA/Israel have an after-battle plan, or is it just going to be another power vacuum* that ISIS/AQ move in to fill (whilst they battle the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps and Ministry of Intelligence)?

*cf Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt…

thenry 28-02-2026 18:45
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Trumps not Kamala Harris

Itshim 28-02-2026 19:37
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211453)
I wonder if the USA/Israel have an after-battle plan, or is it just going to be another power vacuum* that ISIS/AQ move in to fill (whilst they battle the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps and Ministry of Intelligence)?

*cf Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt…
Thart would be a first.

Hugh 28-02-2026 19:39
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36211454)
Trumps not Kamala Harris
eh?

thenry 28-02-2026 19:48
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211464)
eh?
How many wars have broken out from Trumps strikes?

Hugh 28-02-2026 21:35
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36211465)
How many wars have broken out from Trumps strikes?
How many wars broke out under the Biden Administration?

thenry 28-02-2026 21:43
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211467)
How many wars broke out under the Biden Administration?
Google it.

Paul 28-02-2026 21:51
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36211465)
How many wars have broken out from Trumps strikes?
Google it. :dozey:

thenry 28-02-2026 21:53
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36211470)
Google it. :dozey:
None. Zero. :D

Sephiroth 28-02-2026 21:58
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36211440)
From your perspective , the legitimate reason for the attack would be ?
Depends on who’s interpretation of “legitimate” is in the frame. What I see is this:

1. An Israel that has been promised obliteration by Iran.

2. An American President who eants to exercise his power and has found a cause.

“Legitimacy”? If I could assign a definition for this purpose, you’d disagree. And before you say “try me” - no.

Sirius 01-03-2026 04:47
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36211468)
Google it.
Let me google that for you Thenry !

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=How+m...inistration%3F

mrmistoffelees 01-03-2026 11:35
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211472)
Depends on who’s interpretation of “legitimate” is in the frame. What I see is this:

1. An Israel that has been promised obliteration by Iran.

2. An American President who eants to exercise his power and has found a cause.

“Legitimacy”? If I could assign a definition for this purpose, you’d disagree. And before you say “try me” - no.
So, im trying to get an understanding.

You have no issue with a nation launching a strike on a sovereign nation because said first nations leader wants to exercise their power ?

Interesting

Sephiroth 01-03-2026 11:54
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36211482)
So, im trying to get an understanding.

You have no issue with a nation launching a strike on a sovereign nation because said first nations leader wants to exercise their power ?

Interesting
It looks more like you're trying to set me up for an infallible riposte!

"A nation" is two nations.

"First nation", if I may take that to mean the USA - I have no doubt that Trump wanted to exercise his power. Chest out.

"Sovereign nation": Hmm - Iran, the Devil's Disciple; murderer of its own people in big numbers; threatened to obliterate Israel.

In short, the Iran regime deserves what it is getting.

mrmistoffelees 02-03-2026 08:07
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211485)
It looks more like you're trying to set me up for an infallible riposte!

"A nation" is two nations.

"First nation", if I may take that to mean the USA - I have no doubt that Trump wanted to exercise his power. Chest out.

"Sovereign nation": Hmm - Iran, the Devil's Disciple; murderer of its own people in big numbers; threatened to obliterate Israel.

In short, the Iran regime deserves what it is getting.
That’s a long way of saying yes

Good morning :)

Sephiroth 02-03-2026 08:21
Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36211516)
That’s a long way of saying yes

Good morning :)
Good morning to you too.

I have no problem with Israel, supported by the USA, dealing with Iran militarily.


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