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Sephiroth 14-01-2021 17:41
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Like I said, the impeachment process is a divisive and self indulgent (by the Democrats) piece of vindictiveness. If Trump has transgressed the law or is reasonably suspected of same, the Attorney General can deal with that after 20-January. And, unlike one or two here, I don't like Trump - whether or not the election was rigged by the Democrats which the courts have rejected.

Chris 14-01-2021 18:06
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36066671)
From watching CNN last night the second impeachment has a better chance as the senate will be democrat controlled, the last was republican.
The impeachment has already occurred in the House. The question now is whether the impeachment results in a conviction. That is more difficult to achieve because impeachment only requires a simple majority in the House of Representatives. Once it gets to the Senate, a two-thirds majority is required for conviction. This is only marginally easier in the incoming Senate, because it's only Democrat-controlled on the casting vote of the Vice President. Otherwise, the new Senate is actually split 50/50. On these figures, 17 Republicans would have to vote for conviction. The NY Times has information suggesting 20 of them are open to the prospect of convicting Trump, so who knows.

papa smurf 14-01-2021 18:19
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36066675)
The impeachment has already occurred in the House. The question now is whether the impeachment results in a conviction. That is more difficult to achieve because impeachment only requires a simple majority in the House of Representatives. Once it gets to the Senate, a two-thirds majority is required for conviction. This is only marginally easier in the incoming Senate, because it's only Democrat-controlled on the casting vote of the Vice President. Otherwise, the new Senate is actually split 50/50. On these figures, 17 Republicans would have to vote for conviction. The NY Times has information suggesting 20 of them are open to the prospect of convicting Trump, so who knows.
But if there is a full blown blood n guts revolution in the coming days none of this will matter;)

Chris 14-01-2021 18:38
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36066677)
But if there is a full blown blood n guts revolution in the coming days none of this will matter;)
Yeah .. I think the gun fetishists are more interested in polishing their weapons than getting shot at. They talk a good game but when it comes to it there are now several thousand armed, professional soldiers between them and their wet dream. I think American democracy is safe (for now, at least).

papa smurf 14-01-2021 18:59
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36066678)
Yeah .. I think the gun fetishists are more interested in polishing their weapons than getting shot at. They talk a good game but when it comes to it there are now several thousand armed, professional soldiers between them and their wet dream. I think American democracy is safe (for now, at least).
These are American soldiers so expect 90% friendly fire kills if it kicks off, and who knows how many of them are Trump supporters:shocked:

Paul 14-01-2021 19:38
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36066677)
But if there is a full blown blood n guts revolution in the coming days none of this will matter;)
It would be a very short revolution.
Amateur gun lovers v professional soldiers.

I know who my money would be on. ;)

Hugh 14-01-2021 21:27
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36066690)
It would be a very short revolution.
Amateur gun lovers v professional soldiers.

I know who my money would be on. ;)
Yup - all that co-ordinated fire-team experience in urban warfare in the ‘Stans would give a significant advantage against a bunch of wannabe weekend Walts.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36066683)
These are American soldiers so expect 90% friendly fire kills if it kicks off, and who knows how many of them are Trump supporters:shocked:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36066613)
On that point...

Quote:
The US army and secret service is carrying out background checks on the national guard troops due to protect Washington during Joe Biden’s inauguration next Wednesday.

The forces, alarmed by reports that active-duty and reserve military personnel may have been involved in the assault on the Capitol last week, have begun a combined inspection of the 15,000 part-time soldiers.

Any hint that a national guardsman has political sympathies for the rioters is likely to mean an immediate withdrawal from the force, which is being prepared to line the capital city’s streets on January 20.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/n...iden-df8spwvld

heero_yuy 15-01-2021 16:50
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Quote from Politico: A rehearsal for Joe Biden’s inauguration scheduled for Sunday has been postponed because of security concerns, according to two people with knowledge of the decision.

After last week’s riots in Washington, security officials have locked down the Capitol complex, and the National Guard is expected to deploy more than 20,000 troops to assist with security. Top lawmakers and Homeland Security officials have been alarmed about the rising threats around the inauguration, and the FBI warned this weekend of armed protests in all 50 states.

The rehearsal is now planned for Monday, the people said.

The president-elect’s team has also canceled an Amtrak trip from Wilmington to Washington planned for Monday because of heightened security concerns.

The presidential inaugural committee declined to comment on the changes, and the Secret Service and the Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies did not respond to requests for comment.

Hugh 15-01-2021 17:13
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
1 Attachment(s)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1610730778

Damien 15-01-2021 17:23
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Yup and this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...207_story.html

A police officer led rioters away at the last moment but it was a matter of seconds that they avoided the Vice President.

papa smurf 15-01-2021 17:47
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
are these troops going to follow Biden around for the next 4 years

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...threats-459538

Hugh 15-01-2021 17:48
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36066775)
are these troops going to follow Biden around for the next 4 years
No

papa smurf 15-01-2021 17:50
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36066776)
No
He's not going to be very safe then is he?

pip08456 15-01-2021 18:11
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Interesting article from CNN.

Trump explodes at Nixon comparisons as he prepares to leave office

Hugh 15-01-2021 19:45
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36066777)
He's not going to be very safe then is he?
That’s what the Secret Service is for...

And, as has been posted before, the 3%ers and Qanon-ers are weekend Walts who spend a lot of time parading their penis extensions, rather than being a real threat...

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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...statement.html

Quote:
American Thinker and contributors Andrea Widburg, R.D. Wedge, Brian Tomlinson, and Peggy Ryan have published pieces on www.AmericanThinker.com that falsely accuse US Dominion Inc., Dominion Voting Systems, Inc., and Dominion Voting Systems Corporation (collectively “Dominion”) of conspiring to steal the November 2020 election from Donald Trump. These pieces rely on discredited sources who have peddled debunked theories about Dominion’s supposed ties to Venezuela, fraud on Dominion’s machines that resulted in massive vote switching or weighted votes, and other claims falsely stating that there is credible evidence that Dominion acted fraudulently.

These statements are completely false and have no basis in fact. Industry experts and public officials alike have confirmed that Dominion conducted itself appropriately and that there is simply no evidence to support these claims.

It was wrong for us to publish these false statements. We apologize to Dominion for all of the harm this caused them and their employees. We also apologize to our readers for abandoning journalistic principles and misrepresenting Dominion’s track record and its limited role in tabulating votes for the November 2020 election. We regret this grave error.

pip08456 15-01-2021 19:54
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Perhaps Dominion are going to sue them, they're suing Sidney Powell.

Quote:
Coomer, who is Dominion's head of product strategy and security, also filed suit last month against a number of pro-Trump figures, including Powell.

Dominion said Friday that the company may file future lawsuits as well against conservative media outlets and even potentially Trump himself.

"We have not ruled anyone out," said Tom Clare, an attorney representing Dominion. "We are looking very deliberately at the statements and actions of everyone."
Dominion Voting Sues Former Trump Lawyer, Seeking More Than $1.3 Billion In Damages

Mick 17-01-2021 13:03
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
BREAKING: U.S President-Elect Joe Biden’s first European destination will be to the UK. (Separate to G7 Summit visit in June). The UK is set to be the first international destination for the incoming U.S President.

Damien 17-01-2021 16:40
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Yeh we rule. Who wouldn't want to come here.

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Also means the Queen can rack up another President. I think she'll have met 25% of all U.S Presidents ever.

papa smurf 17-01-2021 18:09
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36066988)
Yeh we rule. Who wouldn't want to come here.

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Also means the Queen can rack up another President. I think she'll have met 25% of all U.S Presidents ever.
Hope he gets the same welcome the last president got.

Hugh 17-01-2021 18:23
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36066992)
Hope he gets the same welcome the last president got.
This is unlikely.

Really, if you think about it, they are thought of, by the British public, completely differently.

Obviously, this may change in the future.

Like Obama, Biden is seen as less extreme/abrasive than Trump.

Less likely that anyone will crowdsource a blimp lookalike as they did for Trump.

Mick 17-01-2021 18:30
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36066988)
Yeh we rule. Who wouldn't want to come here.

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Also means the Queen can rack up another President. I think she'll have met 25% of all U.S Presidents ever.
Biden will be the 11th U.S President to visit the UK and Monachy during Queen Elizabeth II’s reign. Every consecutive president since Jimmy Carter has visited. Before that Nixon, Kennedy visited, Lyndon B Johnson who succeeded the presidency after president Kennedy’s assassination, and even after winning the presidency in his own right in 1964, never visited nor did Gerald Ford.

Damien 17-01-2021 20:31
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Yes although she did meet Ford in the U.S and Truman before she was Queen so she has met 13 Presidents if she meets Biden. So 28% of all U.S Presidents :D

Stephen 17-01-2021 20:41
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Pentagon had said no to traditional armed forces farewell for Trump.

https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/202...-trump/171408/
Quote:
The Pentagon, in a break with recent tradition, will not host an Armed Forces Farewell tribute to President Donald Trump.

It’s a shame, but not a surprise. Trump will leave office in disgrace, one week after the House voted a second time for his impeachment, two weeks after his supporters staged a deadly siege in the Capitol Building, six months after he dragged his Joint Chiefs chairman into a political firestorm, and after four years of nonstop assaults on truth. One of those disgraces is how he is ghosting the U.S. troops that he commanded.

TheDaddy 17-01-2021 22:29
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36066992)
Hope he gets the same welcome the last president got.
You mean similar to a state visit, dinner with the Queen and a gaffe competition with Phil over cheese and brandy, don't sound that bad to me

papa smurf 18-01-2021 10:17
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
FBI vets 25,000 National Guard over fears of insider attack at Biden inauguration
Extra checks are being done to confirm there are no concerns over the thousands of personnel who will be protecting the event.


Guard members are also getting training on how to identify potential insider threats

How to identify a threat [man carrying flag- wearing a Trump 2020 hat- wearing a MAGA T-shirt-anyone with horns on head- anyone let handed] Hooah...

https://news.sky.com/story/fbi-vets-...ation-12191193

Paul 18-01-2021 15:14
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Who is vetting the vetters ?

papa smurf 18-01-2021 15:21
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36067053)
Who is vetting the vetters ?
Who indeed.

the main problem i can see is 20-30,000 armed troops all waiting for Armageddon, if some one simply farts i can see it going the way all American military interventions go :sniper::sniper::sniper:

Hugh 18-01-2021 15:39
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55709740

Quote:
US Capitol on lockdown due to 'security threat'

Mick 18-01-2021 15:53
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36067059)
US Capitol placed on lockdown due to security threat -- smoke seen rising from behind building. NBC News.

And this from Sky News:

Quote:
US Capitol Police issued a warning to all buildings within the complex.

A notice sent to House and Senate offices:  "All buildings within the Capitol Complex: Due to an external security threat located under the bridge on I-295 at First and F Streets SE, no entry or exit is permitted at this time. You may move throughout the buildings but stay away from exterior windows and doors. If you are outside, seek cover."


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This from U.S Secret Service:

Quote:
Public safety and law enforcement responded to a small fire in the area of 1st and F streets SE, Washington, D.C. that has been extinguished. Out of an abundance of caution the U.S. Capitol complex was temporarily shutdown. There is no threat to the public.

Hom3r 18-01-2021 15:54
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
A notice sent to House and Senate offices:  "All buildings within the Capitol Complex: Due to an external security threat located under the bridge on I-295 at First and F Streets SE, no entry or exit is permitted at this time. You may move throughout the buildings but stay away from exterior windows and doors. If you are outside, seek cover."

https://news.sky.com/story/us-capito...hreat-12191716


Bomb?

papa smurf 18-01-2021 15:58
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Live Updates: West Front of Capitol evacuated, staffers told to stay inside due to 'external security threat'
Washington D.C.. Fire and EMS says there was a fire at a homeless camp, which was extinguished

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/liv...tion-1-18-2021


Looks like we have reached maximum bum twitching and it's only monday

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36067069)
Paranoia?

Hom3r 18-01-2021 16:07
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Strangely nothing on CNN.com

Hugh 19-01-2021 18:12
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
1 Attachment(s)
From Senator McConnell, the the Republican Senate Majority Leader., on the Senate Floor just now.

Quote:
“The mob was fed lies. They were provoked by the President and other powerful people, and they tried to use fear and violence to stop a specific proceeding of the first branch of the federal government which they did not like.”
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1611080194

Mr K 19-01-2021 21:36
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
All that time worried about Islamic extremism; the real threat to the US is internal and from the far right. That the outgoing President is part that far right and encouraged a violent uprising is beyond belief.

They need a nice dose of calm from President Joe, all their guns taking away and some right wing nutters locking up. The rest, their bark is worse than their bite.

Then get on with the real issues facing the US, covid and climate change.

Mick 19-01-2021 22:10
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36067209)
All that time worried about Islamic extremism; the real threat to the US is internal and from the far right. That the outgoing President is part that far right and encouraged a violent uprising is beyond belief.

They need a nice dose of calm from President Joe, all their guns taking away and some right wing nutters locking up. The rest, their bark is worse than their bite.

Then get on with the real issues facing the US, covid and climate change.
Far left behave worse, they trash cities and burn things down. Joe Biden will not resolve Covid Crisis. His mandating of mask wearing will be ignored by the masses and he hasn't got that authority to do a country wide mandate. Just like Trump was sued in the courts over various policies, it will only take one Federal Judge to block Biden's Executive order.

You cannot take away hundreds of millions of guns in one foul swoop, it's about 200 years too late, the right to bear arms is a cherished right over there. While Democrats may hold Congress and Senate and White House after tomorrow, the right to bear arms is a Constitutional Amendment and requires significant hurdles to change. First, super majorities in both chambers, House and Senate are required and then 38 States out of 50 would need to approve or ratify of any new change.

Paul 20-01-2021 03:53
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
... and then you would have to actually get the guns off people, which would turn into a bloodbath ...

Damien 20-01-2021 07:09
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Biden doesn't want to ban weapons anyway.

OLD BOY 20-01-2021 09:10
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36067223)
Biden doesn't want to ban weapons anyway.
He knows he wouldn't succeed anyway. I can't see that happening anytime this century, to be frank.

Hugh 20-01-2021 09:58
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
This was in the Telegraph "Beyond Brexit Bulletin" today - not sure if it's meant to be funny or serious...

http://m.email3.telegraph.co.uk/nl/j...aign=DM1326706

Quote:
1. Biden "really cares about" the UK
Ted Kaufman, who has been heading up the Biden transition team, made clear in a rare BBC interview last November that Biden will not hold a 'grudge' against Johnson over his apparent closeness to outgoing president Donald Trump.

The former US senator said Biden "really cares about" the UK and will "want to establish close ties".

Biden's great, great, great grandfather, Edward Blewitt, left Ballina, co Mayo, Ireland for America during the Irish famine 170 years ago, which could mean he is well disposed towards Great Britain.

Sephiroth 20-01-2021 10:07
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Our relationship with the USA only matters seriously if we bring to the table something they don't have but which they need.

At the moment, Biden has enough on his hands for the UK to be a distraction/irrelevance if we start getting busy with them.

Damien 20-01-2021 11:03
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
For an American having a great, great, great grandfather from Ireland pretty much means you're fully Irish. If they have a great great great great grandfather whose brother once met someone whose cousin baked soda bread then they pretty much bring out the shamrocks and start celebrating St Patrick's Day.

Sephiroth 20-01-2021 11:46
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36067243)
For an American having a great, great, great grandfather from Ireland pretty much means you're fully Irish. If they have a great great great great grandfather whose brother once met someone whose cousin baked soda bread then they pretty much bring out the shamrocks and start celebrating St Patrick's Day.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/18...heeky-dig-bbc/



B'Jaysus!

Quote:
New York correspondent Nick Bryant requests “a quick word for the BBC” as the Democratic veteran passes through a crowded room.

“The BBC?” Biden responds, before adding with a smile: “I’m Irish.”

1andrew1 20-01-2021 11:56
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Don't forget his British roots.
Quote:
The great-great-great grandfather of Presidential hopeful , Joe Biden, was born in Sussex.

William Biden was born in 1787 to Joe and Anne Biden.
While the exact location of his birth has never been confirmed, a diary entry from a distant relative, Henry Biden, born in 1834, suggest the family had roots in Westbourne, near Chichester.
https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/1884...-roots-sussex/

Sephiroth 20-01-2021 12:45
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36067250)
Does Biden know about this?

Surely the name "Biden" trumps (!) "Blewitt".

Damien 20-01-2021 13:15
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Looks like Trump has left the White House

Hugh 20-01-2021 13:54
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
"We'll be back in some form."
Worst Terminator quote ever...:D

Damien 20-01-2021 13:55
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quite a quiet exit really.

denphone 20-01-2021 13:58
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
All l can say in regards to Donald Trump leaving the White House for the final time is hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah...:)

1andrew1 20-01-2021 14:20
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36067253)
Does Biden know about this?

Surely the name "Biden" trumps (!) "Blewitt".
He's spoken about it before. But if you want to get elected in America, pressing the Irish button works better than the British one. I'm sure he'll mention it at the G7 Summit in Cornwall over a few Proper Jobs and Doom Bars. (Cornish beers ;))

Damien 20-01-2021 15:10
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Trump has left a note for Biden!

Would love to see what it says.

jfman 20-01-2021 15:10
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Can't get YMCA out my head now. Feel like it's the 80s all over again.

denphone 20-01-2021 15:13
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36067272)
Can't get YMCA out my head now. Feel like it's the 80s all over again.
Those were the days..:D

Damien 20-01-2021 15:21
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
If Giuliani really does have this all under control he is leaving it REALLY late to pull it off...

Hugh 20-01-2021 15:40
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36067276)
If Giuliani really does have this all under control he is leaving it REALLY late to pull it off...
That’s what they want you to think...

https://www.ladbible.com/news/latest...ceoff-20210118

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1611157203

jonbxx 20-01-2021 15:41
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
I'm starting to worry that Trump's replacement for Obamacare might not be coming...

jfman 20-01-2021 15:49
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36067278)
I'm starting to worry that Trump's replacement for Obamacare might not be coming...
I'm more worried about the mini trade deal with the UK.

papa smurf 20-01-2021 16:21
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Bit of a poor turnout for joe:)

Hugh 20-01-2021 16:24
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36067284)
Bit of a poor turnout for joe:)
He doesn’t believe in "superspreader events" - he would rather protect his fellow countrymen than his ego..

Anyhoo, it was the voter turnout that mattered... ;)

papa smurf 20-01-2021 16:28
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36067285)
He doesn’t believe in "superspreader events" - he would rather protect his fellow countrymen than his ego..

Anyhoo, it was the voter turnout that mattered... ;)
Indeed, looks like all of his voters are there.

denphone 20-01-2021 16:33
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36067284)
Bit of a poor turnout for joe:)
Still a sore loser l see...;)

jfman 20-01-2021 16:33
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Covid is all just a ruse to mask (pun intended) the poor attendance.

papa smurf 20-01-2021 16:38
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36067287)
Still a sore loser l see...;)
What exactly did I lose?

denphone 20-01-2021 16:45
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36067289)
What exactly did I lose?
The reasoning to understand democratic democracy..

Chris 20-01-2021 16:54
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
And it’s done.

Goodbye, you narcissistic, sociopathic loser. Please do let the door hit you on the way out.

Damien 20-01-2021 17:15
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Things are about to get boring.

Dave42 20-01-2021 17:20
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36067297)
Things are about to get boring.
be good to have a normal USA again and not a dictator wanna be

Hom3r 20-01-2021 17:51
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36067271)
Trump has left a note for Biden!

Would love to see what it says.

I'd give it 5 minutes

heero_yuy 20-01-2021 17:57
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Don't press the wrong button.

Maggy 20-01-2021 17:59
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36067291)
And it’s done.

Goodbye, you narcissistic, sociopathic loser. Please do let the door hit you on the way out.
:clap:

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Back to maturity.:tu:

daveeb 20-01-2021 18:35
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36067310)
:clap:

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Back to maturity.:tu:
Absolutely, good to have a grown up in charge again over there. :cleader:

Pierre 20-01-2021 18:38
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36067298)
be good to have a normal USA again and not a dictator wanna be
And just like that a magic wand has been waved all the problems of the last 4 years are gone and all the problems of the previous 8 years that caused the last 4 years are sorted and the nation will come together as one under St Biden of Joe.


Can’t wait.

jfman 20-01-2021 18:51
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36067315)
And just like that a magic wand has been waved all the problems of the last 4 years are gone and all the problems of the previous 8 years that caused the last 4 years are sorted and the nation will come together as one under St Biden of Joe.

Can’t wait.
Great isn't it. Can sleep better know Vlad doesn't have his fingers on the pulse.

Mr K 20-01-2021 18:56
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36067315)
And just like that a magic wand has been waved all the problems of the last 4 years are gone and all the problems of the previous 8 years that caused the last 4 years are sorted and the nation will come together as one under St Biden of Joe.


Can’t wait.
Compared to Trump anyone is a Saint....

The damage of the last 4 years is going to take time to undo. The amount of hatred and division caused by Trump may never be undone. That will be his legacy.

Hugh 20-01-2021 19:07
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36067315)
And just like that a magic wand has been waved all the problems of the last 4 years are gone and all the problems of the previous 8 years that caused the last 4 years are sorted and the nation will come together as one under St Biden of Joe.


Can’t wait.
or....

At least the problems will be acknowledged and things will begin to happen to remedy them, rather than calling people names and being obsessed by ratings and wanting to be adored by the faithful at rallies.

One step at a time.

Mick 20-01-2021 21:57
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36067317)
Compared to Trump anyone is a Saint....

The damage of the last 4 years is going to take time to undo. The amount of hatred and division caused by Trump may never be undone. That will be his legacy.
Yet again, a post filled with non-accuracies.

There has been long division in America before Trump took office and there will be long division when Biden leaves office.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36067319)
or....

At least the problems will be acknowledged and things will begin to happen to remedy them, rather than calling people names and being obsessed by ratings and wanting to be adored by the faithful at rallies.

One step at a time.
Biden won't do jack shit except probably get us in to wars and he won't stop the spread of Covid. His Mask mandate will be ignored.

Damien 20-01-2021 22:00
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
It'll be interesting if he can get the minimum wage increase passed and if he can expand the coverage of medical care.

Mick 20-01-2021 22:03
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
The wage increase idea is a totally bad one - it will cripple businesses that cannot afford such increases.

jfman 20-01-2021 22:06
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Hopefully Trump's legacy isn't the spread of cancerous populism to the rest of the world, which America recovers from but the rest do not.

1andrew1 20-01-2021 22:14
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36067291)
And it’s done.

Goodbye, you narcissistic, sociopathic loser. Please do let the door hit you on the way out.
Sorry, late to the party, but spot on Chris!

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36067337)
Hopefully Trump's legacy isn't the spread of cancerous populism to the rest of the world, which America recovers from but the rest do not.
Apart from Italy, populist parties have pretty much lost their support.

Mr K 20-01-2021 22:16
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36067332)
Yet again, a post filled with non-accuracies.

There has been long division in America before Trump took office and there will be long division when Biden leaves office.

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Biden won't do jack shit except probably get us in to wars and he won't stop the spread of Covid. His Mask mandate will be ignored.
Is "non-accuracies" a word? :confused:

Covid is out of control in the US; they have the most deaths. Who's fault is that? Mr denier, non mask wearing, its not an issue, Trump perhaps?

Give Joe a chance Mick, there's a chance he's slightly competent, which will be a vast improvement.

1andrew1 20-01-2021 22:17
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36067336)
The wage increase idea is a totally bad one - it will cripple businesses that cannot afford such increases.
Except it was acknowledged to have gone well in the UK and the Conservative Party have retained and increased it.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36067298)
be good to have a normal USA again and not a dictator wanna be
Exactly.

Mad Max 20-01-2021 22:21
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36067298)
be good to have a normal USA again and not a dictator wanna be
Has it ever been....:D

Mick 20-01-2021 22:33
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36067346)
Except it was acknowledged to have gone well in the UK and the Conservative Party have retained and increased it..
Oh so the UK Government increased wage to £15 an hour?

When? :rolleyes:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36067345)
Is "non-accuracies" a word? :confused:

Covid is out of control in the US; they have the most deaths. Who's fault is that? Mr denier, non mask wearing, its not an issue, Trump perhaps?

Give Joe a chance Mick, there's a chance he's slightly competent, which will be a vast improvement.
I'll pass thanks - I have zero interest in U.S politics. Because like others that frequent on here, we're in the UK.

jfman 20-01-2021 22:44
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
£15 isn’t equivalent to $15. And what what equates to in your hands after health insurance, taxes etc it’d be interesting to know.

Mick 20-01-2021 23:10
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
What it equals to is irrelevant. The UK government has increased the living wage in increments over several years. Some U.S States pay as low $7.25 per hour as a minimum. To double it like that would cripple businesses, which would lead to job losses.

jfman 20-01-2021 23:16
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36067358)
What it equals to is irrelevant. The UK government has increased the living wage in increments over several years. Some U.S States pay as low $7.25 per hour as a minimum. To double it like that would cripple businesses, which would lead to job losses.
What it equals isn’t relevant? Of course it does. That’s why GDP per capita is often then adjusted to purchasing power parity to note that £1 in the UK isn’t the same as £1 in the Middle East and isn’t the same as £1 in Africa.

Some may argue a business that can’t afford to pay above $7.25 an hour is barely a viable business at all. Capitalism says it deserves to die, not survive on the backs of workers who cannot afford to live.

That said, I’ve zero interest in US politics. If they don’t want to address inequalities they can do as they wish, and live with the poisonous legacy that it generates.

Paul 20-01-2021 23:17
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
JFYI, $15 = £11, near enough.

jfman 21-01-2021 00:07
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36067361)
JFYI, $15 = £11, near enough.
I've deleted a number of posts because of my misunderstanding.

I didn't take "near enough" as rounding £10.9x to £11 - I took it as a comparison to $15 = £15.

Apologies for the misunderstanding and I've deleted intermediate posts to not waste anyones time.

Paul 21-01-2021 00:10
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Right, now I see - no wonder I was confused by your answer - all cleaned up, move on :)

jfman 21-01-2021 00:13
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36067377)
Right, now I see - no wonder I was confused by your answer - all cleaned up, move on :)
Thanks. :)

Damien 21-01-2021 07:17
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
America rejoins the Paris Agreement and the World Health Organisation.

Angua 21-01-2021 08:32
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36067346)
Except it was acknowledged to have gone well in the UK and the Conservative Party have retained and increased it.

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Exactly.
Yup. It has flattened pay at the bottom of the scale, with many who were just above NMW having pay freezes.

NMW has no regard for job skills.

Mick 21-01-2021 11:49
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
And we’re done in here. Time to move on. Thread closed and topic now open on Biden’s first 100 days in office.

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