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muppetman11 29-01-2016 11:50

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Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35819400)
Interesting that there's no technical spec in the press release. For instance, does it have 'full' HD and/or - dare I say it - 4K capability? But more likely Sky are keeping 4K as an exclusive to their forthcoming Sky Q offering.

No idea the speculation is the box is the Roku 4 but who knows.

denphone 29-01-2016 14:13

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Netflix's confirms House of Cards to return for fifth season in 2017.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...dia_b-gdnmedia

passingbat 29-01-2016 14:31

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35819388)
Now TV launches most advanced box yet

https://corporate.sky.com/media-cent...vanced-box-yet

You have to hand it to Sky; they are embracing new technology and the trend towards streaming content with both Sky Q and Now TV.

Sky Q's features will help to prolong the satellite pay TV subscription side and the forthcoming Now TV help to keep cord cutters' business.

muppetman11 29-01-2016 16:57

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35819438)
You have to hand it to Sky; they are embracing new technology and the trend towards streaming content with both Sky Q and Now TV.

Sky Q's features will help to prolong the satellite pay TV subscription side and the forthcoming Now TV help to keep cord cutters' business.

What I find strange is surely it can't just be a hybrid box providing the Freeview Channels and Now TV content surely Sky will want to increase the ARPU on Now TV.

HD at 1080p is well overdue , whatever the box consists of its a certainty it will do something Sky can charge you extra for. They would make nothing off just the fact it's hybrid apart from charging more for the hardware initially.

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2016/...-advanced-box/

BenMcr 29-01-2016 17:56

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Personally I'd have to ask what would be the point of putting Freeview in the NOW TV box? I can't see the advantage for a couple of reasons.

Now TV requires an HDMI connection as far as I know meaning it's pretty likely you've either already got Freeview built into the TV, or receive broadcast channels through another provider, rendering the Freeview hardware pointless.

Also Now TV is rebranded Roku hardware, which doesn't do Freeview. So to add it in means that Sky would have to source their hardware from someone else - and they seem fairly happy with Roku to date for Now TV.

spiderplant 29-01-2016 18:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35819481)
Personally I'd have to ask what would be the point of putting Freeview in the NOW TV box?

It makes the most popular channels available without the need to stream them (= a huge saving in broadband data).

Besides, there are still plenty of HDMI-enabled TVs about that don't include a Freeview tuner.

muppetman11 29-01-2016 18:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35819481)
Personally I'd have to ask what would be the point of putting Freeview in the NOW TV box? I can't see the advantage for a couple of reasons.

Now TV requires an HDMI connection as far as I know meaning it's pretty likely you've either already got Freeview built into the TV, or receive broadcast channels through another provider, rendering the Freeview hardware pointless.

Also Now TV is rebranded Roku hardware, which doesn't do Freeview. So to add it in means that Sky would have to source their hardware from someone else - and they seem fairly happy with Roku to date for Now TV.

They are working with Roku ;)

http://advanced-television.com/2016/...for-operators/
https://corporate.sky.com/media-cent...vanced-box-yet
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35819496)
It makes the most popular channels available without the need to stream them (= a huge saving in broadband data).

Besides, there are still plenty of HDMI-enabled TVs about that don't include a Freeview tuner.

You always put things so much better than I can. I'd imagine this hybrid box will also feature Sky's own streamed live channels in the EPG with the broadcast channels. Many in here also seem to talk about a one box solution rather than having to keep changing inputs.

OLD BOY 29-01-2016 18:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35819496)
It makes the most popular channels available without the need to stream them (= a huge saving in broadband data).

Besides, there are still plenty of HDMI-enabled TVs about that don't include a Freeview tuner.

It would be good to have all the Freeview channels on the next Tivo box!

gregbeata 29-01-2016 21:09

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:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35819504)
It would be good to have all the Freeview channels on the next Tivo box!


zantarous 29-01-2016 22:26

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I would almost certainly say that the channels will be streamed which would be perfect for me as I get poor aerial reception. I have wondered why no one has managed to do this, all the mobile apps use such poor quality feeds would be nice to have a proper app to do this.

spiderplant 30-01-2016 10:08

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Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35819529)
I would almost certainly say that the channels will be streamed which would be perfect for me as I get poor aerial reception.

1) Streaming the channels wouldn't require a new box. That's what the current one does.
2) It would be a waste of bandwidth for the majority who can get good DTT reception
3) It would be rubbish for me as I get poor broadband ;) (as do many others)

passingbat 30-01-2016 10:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35819468)
What I find strange is surely it can't just be a hybrid box providing the Freeview Channels and Now TV content surely Sky will want to increase the ARPU on Now TV.

HD at 1080p is well overdue , whatever the box consists of its a certainty it will do something Sky can charge you extra for. They would make nothing off just the fact it's hybrid apart from charging more for the hardware initially.

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2016/...-advanced-box/

They could do with a few extra channels such as Alibi, Universal and Watch (though I think Watch's rebranding and new content skew to 'W' could end up standing for 'Wishy-washy')

But I wouldn't be prepare to pay more than 50p for their additions. I think Sky will keep 1080p and 5.1 the reserve of their satellite boxes for the time being. They could try an extra charge for it, but again, it would have to be minimal for me to pay it; the 720p picture on catchup/box sets, is not bad at all in my view.

steveh 30-01-2016 10:51

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Another reason for including Freeview in a Now TV box is that it could enable catch-up streaming via the EPG, which YouView and Freeview Play have and which consumers seem to like. Would seem to be less hassle just to licence YouView.

Here's Roku's announcement: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160129005301/en

The main problem with Now TV is Sky are navigating a path where it has to be good enough to make people subscribe but not so good that it starts eating into the main Sky product. The new entrants in the streaming market though are going all out to have the best experience possible. The recent press about the new Now TV UI seems to be positioning it as having more editorial rather than algorithmic input into how it suggests shows, but I don't think that's good enough. When even YouTube is doing 6+ Mbps 1080p video they need better than the current 3.2Mbps 720p video - which also doesn't look as good as the BBC manage for the same speed with iPlayer. Did read that someone had been told by customer services that live channels were all going up to 720p this spring.

zantarous 31-01-2016 02:48

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35819545)
1) Streaming the channels wouldn't require a new box. That's what the current one does.
2) It would be a waste of bandwidth for the majority who can get good DTT reception
3) It would be rubbish for me as I get poor broadband ;) (as do many others)

It does say the current app/box will get a new UI in Feb and you are right it doesn't need a new box I just hope it is a early miscommunication.

It is a easy way to get a load of channels in one simple box, also would be brilliant as a mobile app, the tuner in my second TV doesn't even work.

This product probably isn't aimed at people who have rubbish broadband, it is aimed squarely at people who want to cut the cord but have a cheap option. Imagine how attractive a Pay TV service would be bundled in with freeview? You would watch all those channels while Sky still get to advertise to you from within the app.

RichardCoulter 06-02-2016 18:59

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35818704)
I am sure your views on Ant and/or Dec cut them to the quick, and are only mitigated by their net worth of £62 million each... ;)

Measuring success purely in terms of wealth is so crass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35819504)
It would be good to have all the Freeview channels on the next Tivo box!

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35819545)
1) Streaming the channels wouldn't require a new box. That's what the current one does.
2) It would be a waste of bandwidth for the majority who can get good DTT reception
3) It would be rubbish for me as I get poor broadband ;) (as do many others)

If VM are no longer going to add Freeview additions to their TV service, why don't they do what Sky have done in another country (and considered here before ITV joined the Sky platform) and bring TiVo customers the channels via a DTT sidecar?

No fees either way, no carriage agreements to make...

NPower customers can get a free 3 month Now TV Entertainment pass:

http://www.npower.com/Campaigns/offer/nowTv/index.htm

RichardCoulter 10-02-2016 19:08

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http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201602104...#axzz3zml96eBm

Could this be useful for obtaining English Premier League matches without being ripped off by Sky?

Hugh 10-02-2016 20:05

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35820862)
Measuring success purely in terms of wealth is so crass.





If VM are no longer going to add Freeview additions to their TV service, why don't they do what Sky have done in another country (and considered here before ITV joined the Sky platform) and bring TiVo customers the channels via a DTT sidecar?

No fees either way, no carriage agreements to make...

NPower customers can get a free 3 month Now TV Entertainment pass:

http://www.npower.com/Campaigns/offer/nowTv/index.htm

How about adding their wealth to their popularity, the fact that their shows have high viewing figures, which are the reason for their success and wealth?

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35821420)
http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201602104...#axzz3zml96eBm

Could this be useful for obtaining English Premier League matches without being ripped off by Sky?

The Optus rights are for showing the matches in Australia....

RichardCoulter 10-02-2016 20:21

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35821430)
The Optus rights are for showing the matches in Australia....

Officially yes.

muppetman11 11-02-2016 23:02

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Netflix Original: House of Cards Season 4 trailer

https://youtu.be/NTzycsqxYJ0

harry_hitch 11-02-2016 23:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35821602)
Netflix Original: House of Cards Season 4 trailer

https://youtu.be/NTzycsqxYJ0

Cheers MM. Looking forward to it!

muppetman11 12-02-2016 00:22

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Sports Streaming ?

http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/4/109...ights-interest

denphone 12-02-2016 06:04

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35821608)
Cheers MM. Looking forward to it!

Yes us too.

muppetman11 12-02-2016 11:03

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Emilia Fox, Clarke Peters and William Ash join Stephen Dillane and Clémence Poésy in the cast of The Tunnel: Sabotage

All episodes will be available to binge watch from April 16 presumably available on Now TV also.

https://corporate.sky.com/media-cent...unnel-sabotage

theone2k10 14-02-2016 16:05

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Amazon now powers Netflix, the two companies put their differences behind them to start working together http://cordcuttersnews.com/amazon-now-powers-netflix/

MalteseFalcon 14-02-2016 17:26

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Just had an email saying that Unblock us will no longer be accepting PayPal payments.

johnathome 14-02-2016 17:31

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35821984)
Just had an email saying that Unblock us will no longer be accepting PayPal payments.

Yep, the studios and US government are leaning on the payment options of providers who allow people to get around geo-blocking.

theone2k10 14-02-2016 23:30

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35821984)
Just had an email saying that Unblock us will no longer be accepting PayPal payments.

Get a pre paid credit card like cashplus and use that instead this is what i do with ibvpn.

Horizon 15-02-2016 15:28

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35821984)
Just had an email saying that Unblock us will no longer be accepting PayPal payments.

Paypal will cut off the lot of them:

http://cordcuttersnews.com/paypal-mo...-dns-services/

mike_gain 16-02-2016 14:30

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I'm no advocate of piracy but surely if someone is happy to pay for content and have the knowledge to allow them to do it cutting them off increases the risk of them not paying and getting stuff for free. the only loser here would seem to be the industry not the consumer.

passingbat 16-02-2016 14:58

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Originally Posted by mike_gain (Post 35822244)
I'm no advocate of piracy but surely if someone is happy to pay for content and have the knowledge to allow them to do it cutting them off increases the risk of them not paying and getting stuff for free. the only loser here would seem to be the industry not the consumer.

I like the view that Netflix's Ted Sandros gave on this at the 2015 4th quarter results, a few weeks ago.

Quote:

'Geo-filter hacking and piracy are maybe distant cousins at best. Geo-filter hacking is hacking to pay. Whereas piracy is people hacking not to pay.'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvIsZxcV7Y0#t=2288

Around 38 minutes in.

theone2k10 25-02-2016 17:55

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Netflix have started rollng out trailers a banner will be at the top of your screen which will automatically play a trailer http://cordcuttersnews.com/netflix-ads/

passingbat 25-02-2016 19:01

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35823858)
Netflix have started rollng out trailers a banner will be at the top of your screen which will automatically play a trailer http://cordcuttersnews.com/netflix-ads/

I noticed that a few days ago. The banners have been their for ages. All they have done is added sound. It doesn't affect anything else. Not a problem for me.

zantarous 25-02-2016 20:33

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Yep not a problem as all they are doing is promoting content from their service and you can pretty much scroll past it.

muppetman11 27-02-2016 17:14

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35821984)
Just had an email saying that Unblock us will no longer be accepting PayPal payments.

I noticed Unblock us have now locked down their Twitter account and cleared their Facebook page any idea why ?

theone2k10 27-02-2016 17:45

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35824219)
I noticed Unblock us have now locked down their Twitter account and cleared their Facebook page any idea why ?

Probably just covering their backs and stopping netflix etc seeing anything as they used to do a weekly comp for a months free service which featured a lot of Netflix content across different regions.

Edit - from unblockus twitter it is still live just not as active.
Unblock-Us.com ‏@Unblock_Us Feb 25

Hey guys! Our twitter feed became a little noisy. To provide better support, we've moved all support to our website. https://support.unblock-us.com

heavyside 29-02-2016 15:11

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Bad news for Netflix VPN and DNS users. http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/29/n...-more-proxies/

MalteseFalcon 29-02-2016 16:43

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Damn, means I best get Season 4 of PoI and Season 3 of Crossing Lines watched soon then, otherwise I am stuck. Might seriously think about getting rid of Netflix if I cannot change regions.

theone2k10 29-02-2016 16:48

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Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35824552)
Bad news for Netflix VPN and DNS users. http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/29/n...-more-proxies/

Yup ibvpn smart dns now blocked and cactus, cactus already working on it, i've cancelled netflix personally i can see why they are doing this but sod it i'll go back to torrents it isn't me losing out.
Hope a lot of people go to torrents too and give the greedy studios a kick up the backside.
PS i was cancelling netflix anyway for a couple of months :p:

cimt 29-02-2016 16:49

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Crossing Lines is Amazon isn't it? I can still access other Netflix's atm so that's good.

passingbat 29-02-2016 17:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cimt (Post 35824568)
Crossing Lines is Amazon isn't it? .

It should be; they have the UK rights, but checked yesterday and season 3 isn't on Prime (yet?).

MalteseFalcon 29-02-2016 17:05

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US Netflix, and a couple of other series on there just started. Will free VPN services work?

denphone 29-02-2016 17:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35824552)
Bad news for Netflix VPN and DNS users. http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/29/n...-more-proxies/

It was inevitable.

passingbat 29-02-2016 17:18

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35824571)
Will free VPN services work?

Personally, I wouldn't trust free ones. theone2k10 posted a good while back that they pinch your bandwidth and you have no clue what it is being used for.

theone2k10 29-02-2016 17:53

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35824574)
Personally, I wouldn't trust free ones. theone2k10 posted a good while back that they pinch your bandwidth and you have no clue what it is being used for.

This: Never ever trust a free vpn they steal your bandwidth and sell it on, mostly to companies who use it to send spam or even viruses and randsomware, you can pick up a good vpn from ibvpn or cactus from as little as £3p/m.

RichardCoulter 29-02-2016 18:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35824566)
Yup ibvpn smart dns now blocked and cactus, cactus already working on it, i've cancelled netflix personally i can see why they are doing this but sod it i'll go back to torrents it isn't me losing out.
Hope a lot of people go to torrents too and give the greedy studios a kick up the backside.
PS i was cancelling netflix anyway for a couple of months :p:

Totally agree with and support you; i'm going to look into accessing content for free in the future.

Do Netflix give you offers when you cancel, to entice you to stay? Does Now TV?

paultrademark 29-02-2016 19:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35824566)
Yup ibvpn smart dns now blocked

Mines working fine, but I have the premier product and use the VPN :)

passingbat 29-02-2016 19:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35824580)
This: Never ever trust a free vpn they steal your bandwidth and sell it on, mostly to companies who use it to send spam or even viruses and randsomware, you can pick up a good vpn from ibvpn or cactus from as little as £3p/m.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35824587)
Totally agree with and support you; i'm going to look into accessing content for free in the future.

I do believe that the content suppliers are greedy; they don't seem to understand the concept of a fair profit and, additionally, how the internet has massively changed consumption. Actually, on that second point, they do understand, but don't care because it will affect their bottom line.

However, those are the rules we currently live under, which non of us like. But that doesn't justify stealing content.

RichardCoulter 29-02-2016 20:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35824594)
I do believe that the content suppliers are greedy; they don't seem to understand the concept of a fair profit and, additionally, how the internet has massively changed consumption. Actually, on that second point, they do understand, but don't care because it will affect their bottom line.

However, those are the rules we currently live under, which non of us like. But that doesn't justify stealing content.

I used to think the same way PB, but when millionaire MP's are claiming for porn PPV movies, having their moats cleaned etc and multinational companies are paying less tax than people on the minimum wage, I've had a change of heart.

passingbat 29-02-2016 21:15

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35824611)
I used to think the same way PB, but when millionaire MP's are claiming for porn PPV movies, having their moats cleaned etc and multinational companies are paying less tax than people on the minimum wage, I've had a change of heart.

I feel the same way about the greed of the content producers. I hear exactly where you are coming from. But there is the old saying, "Two wrongs, don't make a right."

theone2k10 29-02-2016 22:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35824588)
Mines working fine, but I have the premier product and use the VPN :)

Can confirm vpn is indeed working fine, also cactus vpn vpn is working too.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35824587)
Totally agree with and support you; i'm going to look into accessing content for free in the future.

Do Netflix give you offers when you cancel, to entice you to stay? Does Now TV?

Never ever recieved a offer from Netflix apart from my first month free, nowtv do email me with offers just recently i had a offer of sky movies for £4.99p/m for 4 months and another month free.

BTTV: i can confirm BT are letting people out of their tv contract due to fox being removed from BT, they allowed me to exit my tv contract without penalty today all i have to do is return the youview box but i can keep the multiroom box i had, i think that might be because i'd paid £99 for the extra box though.

RichardCoulter 29-02-2016 23:19

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Cheers for the info :)

theone2k10 02-03-2016 00:01

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TCM is now on BT TV apparantly.

denphone 02-03-2016 06:00

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They have some excellent old films on there in my opinion as l record quite a few sometimes.

MalteseFalcon 02-03-2016 08:36

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Netflix have already blocked Unblock-us, went to watch US region last night on the xBox One and got a message saying you need to disable your unblocker and/or proxy. Damn, the US region has so much better stuff. Now to find a decent alternative to Unblock so I can carry on watching US Netflix.

theone2k10 02-03-2016 10:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35824792)
They have some excellent old films on there in my opinion as l record quite a few sometimes.

Agree mate i watch the US version of TCM some movies i hadn't heard of but was glad gave them a chance as was pleasantly surprised.

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35824798)
Netflix have already blocked Unblock-us, went to watch US region last night on the xBox One and got a message saying you need to disable your unblocker and/or proxy. Damn, the US region has so much better stuff. Now to find a decent alternative to Unblock so I can carry on watching US Netflix.

It's just a case of bearing with the smart dns providers, they will hopefully find a way around it, i have got rid of netflix and if what i've seen across the web is anything to go by quite a lot of people are dropping netflix now too.

muppetman11 02-03-2016 10:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35824798)
Netflix have already blocked Unblock-us, went to watch US region last night on the xBox One and got a message saying you need to disable your unblocker and/or proxy. Damn, the US region has so much better stuff. Now to find a decent alternative to Unblock so I can carry on watching US Netflix.

You will find this is ongoing so you may subscribe to someone else only to find that ends up the same.

cimt 02-03-2016 11:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35824798)
Netflix have already blocked Unblock-us, went to watch US region last night on the xBox One and got a message saying you need to disable your unblocker and/or proxy. Damn, the US region has so much better stuff. Now to find a decent alternative to Unblock so I can carry on watching US Netflix.

Mines still working atm...

Chad 02-03-2016 13:43

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Fear the Walking Dead comes to Amazon Instant video on 27th March

denphone 02-03-2016 13:49

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Excellent news Chad.

BenMcr 02-03-2016 15:01

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35708623

Quote:

The culture secretary has vowed to end the iPlayer "loophole" soon, so those watching catch-up TV do not get "a free ride".

John Whittingdale said the licence fee would be extended so it no longer just applied to live television viewers.

passingbat 02-03-2016 17:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35824877)

Quote:

The culture secretary has vowed to end the iPlayer "loophole" soon, so those watching catch-up TV do not get "a free ride".

John Whittingdale said the licence fee would be extended so it no longer just applied to live television viewers.
As it should be.

denphone 02-03-2016 17:16

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Well l don't agree with much the government does but l agree with this.

Horizon 02-03-2016 17:29

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Little news snippet from CNBC:

"AT&T to go over the top on themselves"

AT&T, the US telecoms giant and owner of the satellite pay tv company Direct TV, is to offer a streaming version of Direct TV over its cable. There will be 3 different tiers to choose from and will be comparable to the full satellite service offered by Direct TV.

The thinkig being that the big media companies must now offer streaming services to prevent any more new entrants entering the market like Apple or Google.

CNBC also reported that their parent company, US cableco Comcast, are also looking at launching a streaming service too.

OLD BOY 02-03-2016 20:32

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Funnily enough, I've been wondering whether Sky will be doing just that in the not so distant future.

passingbat 02-03-2016 20:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35824933)
Funnily enough, I've been wondering whether Sky will be doing just that in the not so distant future.


They're already doing that with their own channels (plus a few others); it's called Now TV

OLD BOY 02-03-2016 20:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35824934)
They're already doing that with their own channels (plus a few others); it's called Now TV

Well, kind of. The full service isn't on there, though.

muppetman11 02-03-2016 20:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35824936)
Well, kind of. The full service isn't on there, though.

Probably because people don't want the expensive full service , Now TV is aimed at the pay tv lite market

OLD BOY 02-03-2016 21:00

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An interesting thought is whether VM might be contemplating using BT'S fibre optic cables as a cheap way of extending their services to the rest of the country. This could transform their fortunes and enable them to gain access to millions more customers.

Horizon 02-03-2016 21:22

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35824938)
An interesting thought is whether VM might be contemplating using BT'S fibre optic cables as a cheap way of extending their services to the rest of the country. This could transform their fortunes and enable them to gain access to millions more customers.

Absolutely, plus they still have the benefit of having their own network which only they can use. This could give them a significant advantage, but as I said on another thread last week, I expect within 5-10 years that Sky will become the UK's largest cableco.

theone2k10 02-03-2016 23:33

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35824933)
Funnily enough, I've been wondering whether Sky will be doing just that in the not so distant future.

They used to let you subscribe to SKYGO on it's own too at one time from as little as £15p/m

love Virgin2013 03-03-2016 03:59

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Any ideas on when the new Now TV box is coming out and if they will ever add anymore channels to the line up?

steveh 03-03-2016 10:36

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I think they were suggesting Q3 for the new Now TV box with Freeview built in.

I would say it is unlikely that the number of channels will grow much on Now TV as a) it will push the cost up beyond what is currently an attractive price point, b) they would prefer revenue to stay with channels Sky own or co-own in the UK, c) we'll probably see other content owners offering their own apps / services.

TV Player Plus for £4.99/month covers most of the popular channels that aren't on it and is rolling out to quite a few streaming devices over the next few months apparently : http://www.tvplayer.com/channels/.

muppetman11 03-03-2016 11:31

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Reality TV streaming service Hayu launches in the UK

http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/01/n...yu-reality-tv/

One for Den :D

denphone 03-03-2016 11:50

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No l think l will let you have first dibs my dear chap.;)

passingbat 03-03-2016 13:06

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Originally Posted by steveh (Post 35825026)
TV Player Plus for £4.99/month covers most of the popular channels that aren't on it and is rolling out to quite a few streaming devices over the next few months apparently : http://www.tvplayer.com/channels/.

For a similar price, upgrading from the free M TV pack on VM to the M+ TV pack adds many of the channels that are missing from Now TV.

Chad 03-03-2016 22:58

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35825037)
Reality TV streaming service Hayu launches in the UK

http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/01/n...yu-reality-tv/

One for Den :D

Thanks for the heads up. That's my wife signed up watching already. Pretty much all her favourite shows.

SnoopZ 04-03-2016 01:20

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35824798)
Netflix have already blocked Unblock-us, went to watch US region last night on the xBox One and got a message saying you need to disable your unblocker and/or proxy. Damn, the US region has so much better stuff. Now to find a decent alternative to Unblock so I can carry on watching US Netflix.

Still working for me on Xbox One, not sure what I will do to get around it when it goes pear shaped!

OLD BOY 04-03-2016 09:01

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35824798)
Netflix have already blocked Unblock-us, went to watch US region last night on the xBox One and got a message saying you need to disable your unblocker and/or proxy. Damn, the US region has so much better stuff. Now to find a decent alternative to Unblock so I can carry on watching US Netflix.

I have never used anything like Unblock-us, but I know there's a lot more on the US version of Netflix than on the UK one.

However, is it not true to say that pretty well everything on there is also available on Sky or elsewhere in this country? Is it not all down to cost rather than access? What sort of programmes are you watching on Netflix USA that we can't get here?

MalteseFalcon 04-03-2016 12:12

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Crossing Lines has season 3 on there. Plus Person of Interest season 4 is on there, whilst Channel 5 show it here they are so slow showing the episodes that PoI will be finished for about 4 years before we get to see the last ever episode of it.

denphone 04-03-2016 13:01

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BBC and Netflix expected to announce a new Top Gear deal “imminently”...

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...eal-imminently

OLD BOY 05-03-2016 13:08

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35824937)
Probably because people don't want the expensive full service , Now TV is aimed at the pay tv lite market

I agree, although I wouldn't be surprised if Now TV was to transform completely into something bigger over time.

denphone 05-03-2016 13:47

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Why should it? as its doing very well as it is in my book.

OLD BOY 05-03-2016 16:40

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35825274)
Why should it? as its doing very well as it is in my book.

It certainly is at the moment, Den, and I would be surprised if they changed Now TV substantially in the short term.

However, assuming I am right about the coming audience shrinkage to be experienced by the linear channels, I would see Sky looking at changing the way in which Now TV is presented. How this will manifest itself, however, I am not altogether sure, but if it is to compete against the big global streaming undertakings, they will have to keep on the ball and ensure that the service remains competitive.

theone2k10 05-03-2016 17:21

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35825300)
It certainly is at the moment, Den, and I would be surprised if they changed Now TV substantially in the short term.

However, assuming I am right about the coming audience shrinkage to be experienced by the linear channels, I would see Sky looking at changing the way in which Now TV is presented. How this will manifest itself, however, I am not altogether sure, but if it is to compete against the big global streaming undertakings, they will have to keep on the ball and ensure that the service remains competitive.

Maybe they will offer a basic entertainment pass which will be the channels currently available and leave it at £6.99p/m and introduce a premier entertainment pass for say £20p/m which will include many more channels such as syfy, universal, nat geo, the remaining uktv channels etc.

passingbat 05-03-2016 19:23

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35825304)
Maybe they will offer a basic entertainment pass which will be the channels currently available and leave it at £6.99p/m and introduce a premier entertainment pass for say £20p/m which will include many more channels such as syfy, universal, nat geo, the remaining uktv channels etc.

I agree they may offer separate tiers --- was thinking the same myself. But £20 is too high in my view. The pricing needs to be significantly less than the basic satellite subscription, especially as there is no recording functionality

The other thing is most cord cutters don't want is dross channels. The channels you mention are the types of channels most cord cutters want. I think an extra £3-4 is about right for those extra channels.

Chad 05-03-2016 21:43

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35825315)
I agree they may offer separate tiers --- was thinking the same myself. But £20 is too high in my view. The pricing needs to be significantly less than the basic satellite subscription, especially as there is no recording functionality

The other thing is most cord cutters don't want is dross channels. The channels you mention are the types of channels most cord cutters want. I think an extra £3-4 is about right for those extra channels.

Agree with you there mate. SKY themselves are now selling a 6 month NOW TV pass for £24.99. That's only £4.16 per month. Whilst NOW TV is advertised as 13 channels you actually get SKY Sports News to when you apply either an entertainment pass or sports pass. That works out at 30p per channel per month.

Then you've got TV Player plus offering 25 channels for £4.99 per month. That works out at 20p per channel. So between NOW TV and TV Player the going rate for a streaming channel is 25p per month. If I could pick and choose the channels to stream, the popular ones in our house, my subscription would only cost me about £4.00 per month!

Okay so my new dream PVR would include Freeview as standard, all the free catch up TV apps (iPlayer, ITV Hub, All 4, My 5, UKTV) NOW TV, TV Player, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, Youtube and the Boxnation app.

denphone 07-03-2016 14:38

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Ripper Street axed by Amazon Prime.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...dia_b-gdnmedia

theone2k10 08-03-2016 15:19

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HULU have started blocking pre paid credit cards http://cordcuttersnews.com/hulu-bloc...-credit-cards/

muppetman11 09-03-2016 11:04

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Sky takes $45m stake in Netflix rival iflix

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...flix-streaming

denphone 09-03-2016 11:48

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A finger in every pie it seems...

Horizon 09-03-2016 14:22

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I like how that article seems unaware that Sky is part of a much bigger entity. So, its not really Sky just buying a stake in a Asian streaming service, but Murdoch.

We wondered if the big media cos will get involve in streaming, now we're starting to get answers. Murdoch is taking on netflix, who next??

OLD BOY 09-03-2016 20:20

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35825826)
I like how that article seems unaware that Sky is part of a much bigger entity. So, its not really Sky just buying a stake in a Asian streaming service, but Murdoch.

We wondered if the big media cos will get involve in streaming, now we're starting to get answers. Murdoch is taking on netflix, who next??

Clearly, Sky have recognised that the future lies in video streaming. It will be interesting to see how this develops.

denphone 09-03-2016 20:26

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35825885)
Clearly, Sky have recognised that the future lies in video streaming. It will be interesting to see how this develops.

So that's why they still have 12 million TV customers then in the UK plus all the other TV customers in Europe?.

passingbat 09-03-2016 20:37

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35825888)
So that's why they still have 12 million TV customers then in the UK plus all the other TV customers in Europe?.

Sky are cleverly covering both aspects, and they started doing that a couple of years ago. Kudos to them for realising the growing interest in content delivered by streaming, independent of 12 month contracts.

OLD BOY 09-03-2016 20:41

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35825888)
So that's why they still have 12 million TV customers then in the UK plus all the other TV customers in Europe?.

I did say the future, Den, not the present. Linear broadcast channels are currently in rude health, and will probably remain so for the next few years. However, in the medium term, more people will increase their viewing to embrace the new ways of viewing, thereby diminishing revenues from advertising on the broadcast channels.

denphone 09-03-2016 21:12

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l see you are back tracking from your great claim that linear TV was dying then OB.;)

Mad Max 10-03-2016 00:13

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I now understand why you have so many posts Den................:D

OLD BOY 10-03-2016 09:10

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35825903)
l see you are back tracking from your great claim that linear TV was dying then OB.;)

Not at all, Den. I have made it clear throughout that I am talking about 20, not 2 years' time.

muppetman11 10-03-2016 10:46

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Fox and Sky invest in streaming service fuboTV

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...service-fubotv

denphone 10-03-2016 17:27

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BBC and ITV in talks to launch a Netflix-style streaming service.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...eaming-service


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