Cable Forum - Post-Brexit Thread

The french and the germans have been trying to lure company's out of the city of london for a longtime it's not a new thing because we voted to leave the EU. The sticking point has always been the infrastructure to operate at the level london does both the french and german governments believe the bulk of the infrastructure cost be on the companys that will benefit from it and those companys want it in place beforehand. I'm not overly concerned at this point of a mass evacuation from london to the continent or even within the next ten years or so although I'm sure some operations may move to the continent but the bulk will continue within london.

How anyone can have read the leaving process and thought for one second we could maintain access to the single market is beyond me it's made very clear that leaving the EU means out of the single market but so many remain supporters seemed to think there was going to be a magical deal. Only way they could think that is either 1, they haven't actually read the whole thing or 2, read and completely misinterpreted the meaning of the process either way I won't be taking details from them as fact anytime soon.

it's because they didn't understand what the vote was about .

tweetiepooh

18-01-2017 10:35

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My thoughts are that tariffs imposed are at the discretion of the imposer so we don't have to put tariffs on imports from the EU, likewise they don't have to put tariffs on our goods. So while access isn't as easy or "free" from outside deals can still be struck, likewise with other trade partners.

The UK can also decide duty levels, visa/travel arrangements between ourselves and the EU just as we can with other nations. Again not automatic or as free and easy.

What we do have more freedom on is not having to always follow EU diktats on such matters. If the EU wants to impose higher duty on imports from certain countries and we don't we are free not too (this could already be there I don't know).

What I think will be interesting is do we have to deal with the EU as a whole or can we work with individual countries within the EU. This will be the fun side of things, especially with some of the other members who are less happy with the EU.

pip08456

18-01-2017 10:47

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No country outside of the EU can deal with only one member state. Any deals must be with the EU as a whole.

1andrew1

18-01-2017 15:53

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Let's hope every vehicle maker can be given the reassurances they require and not just Nissan. It looks like greater efficiency and productivity will be needed in order to compensate for the effects of Brexit.

Toyota warns of Brexit damage to UK operations

Leaving the European single market and customs union will damage the competitiveness of the UK operations of Toyota, the company’s chairman said on Wednesday, deepening the uncertainty facing its British workforce.

Takeshi Uchiyamada told the Financial Times at the World Economic Forum in Davos that while he still hoped for a bright future for Toyota’s operations in Britain, the plants needed to become more competitive if they were to survive the damage from Theresa May’s plans for a hard Brexit.

The warning from one of the world’s largest carmakers comes just 24 hours after the prime minister set out principles that include leaving the single market and the customs union and negotiating future ties and access.
Subscribers can access via https://www.ft.com/content/24ccc368-...c-be108f1c1dce and anyone can read by googling the headline.

It doesn't appear to be related to Brexit, but Toyota is now reducing agency staff at its Derbyshire plant. http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/toyota-c...ail/story.html

pip08456

18-01-2017 16:45

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35881127)

[I]Let's hope every vehicle maker can be given the reassurances they require and not just Nissan.

Yes, and let's include VW, Mercedes, BMW, Fiat, Renault, Citroen etc.

1andrew1

18-01-2017 17:09

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35881129)

Yes, and let's include VW, Mercedes, BMW, Fiat, Renault, Citroen etc.

I don't think we can make any promises to companies who don't manufacture in the UK so your list would just be VW and BMW.

pip08456

18-01-2017 18:22

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35881130)

I don't think we can make any promises to companies who don't manufacture in the UK so your list would just be VW and BMW.

As usual you miss the point. Just carry on being a remoaner and don't look at the world outside of the EU.

Trade deals affect more than UK companies, that is how a deal is struck, to the benefit of both parties.

papa smurf

18-01-2017 18:34

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35881130)

I don't think we can make any promises to companies who don't manufacture in the UK so your list would just be VW and BMW.

you should set yourself the task of posting something positive about your country and let go of the EU .

1andrew1

18-01-2017 18:49

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35881139)

you should set yourself the task of posting something positive about your country and let go of the EU .

I'm not sure you read my post. It's not a negative one and I've even gone so far as to say that recent Toyota job losses are not related to Brexit.
This is not about letting go of the EU, I've stated many a time that we're all leavers now. Finally, Therese May has informed us of her plans without giving away her negotiating strategy...which no one asked her to.
This is about Theresa May's promise to Nissan and how it should be made to other UK vehicle manufacturers as well to safeguard British jobs. Which I'm sure you'll agree is no bad thing.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35881136)

Less of the provocative name-calling please. I'm not moaning.
I agree with you about how trade deals are struck but I'm unsure of its relevance here when I was stating that all UK vehicle manufacturers should be treated the same as Nissan.

martyh

18-01-2017 19:39

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With the supreme court ruling on Tuesday i'm wondering if the problems in NI are going to delay invoking A50 assuming the supreme court rules against the government

1andrew1

18-01-2017 20:00

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35881153)

With the supreme court ruling on Tuesday i'm wondering if the problems in NI are going to delay invoking A50 assuming the supreme court rules against the government

It's going to be pretty tight if the election's on the 2nd March and the UK Government wants to hand in notice by 25th March. But I'm not sure Theresa May sees the election as an issue.

Hom3r

18-01-2017 20:44

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I've had a nightmare 2 days at work.

So cheering myself by winding up bremoaners ob facebook.

richard s

18-01-2017 20:49

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35881129)

Yes, and let's include VW, Mercedes, BMW, Fiat, Renault, Citroen etc.

Crying shame we did not sort out our car industry years ago.

pip08456