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Oh ok so I'm potentially paying the same or more however receiving less.

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I never did say that, Den, and I have reminded you of that more than once.

I said that:

1. The number of traditional linear channels would start to decline from about 5 years' time;

2. The number of traditional linear channels existing in 20 years' time will be very small or non existent, due to the massively increased use of OTT services, which were easier and more convenient to use.

That was about a year ago, so you can take a year off the 5 years and 20 years predictions.

As it happens, I may have been too pessimistic about the speed of change. Two traditional linear channels have already taken the decision to go on demand only (BBC3 and ITV Encore) so things have started moving in that direction four years earlier than I thought at the time.

The posts on here clearly demonstrate a strong trend, both in the US and the UK (as well as Europe) towards OTT services, and yet you continue to bury your head in the sand and tell us this will never happen.

I am still waiting for your explanation as to why you do not agree with this prediction, particularly when the TV industry seems to have come around to this point of view also, and the evidence is building up month by month.

If you are able to provide me with an up to date link that supports your view on this matter, I would be very interested to read it.

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How do you make that out?

You would have all the terrestrials free of charge, the Sky channels via Now TV and however many streaming services you choose to subscribe to (on monthly contracts as well!).

If you chose Now TV for your Sky and Movie channels and you used an aerial or TV Player for the terrestrials, that would cost you about £18. Add Netflix and Amazon and that's another £16 or thereabouts. So that's £34 compared with £60, leaving you to spend £26 on other streaming services when they come, or alternatively you could save that money.

So why do you think it would be more expensive?

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On paper my streaming services are probably already more expensive than a TV sub when taking into account the cost of my VM broadband.
Off the top of my head its £3-£5 a month for Now TV Entertainment depending on what deals I find,
£5-£7 a month for Now TV movies again depending on what deals I find,
£20-£34 a month for Now TV Sports depending on whether I'm on a deal or not (9 months a year I'm probably on the £20 a month offer),
£4 a month for BT Sport,
£10 a month for Netflix,
£80 a year for Amazon Prime,
£130 a year for NFL Gamepass,
£20 a month for ESPN Player for the 5 months of the year of college football.

However I do share the cost of the services that allow more than one connection at once with trusted friends and family and if I was paying a full TV subscription I probably wouldn't be able to subscribe to the services I do that give me the content I want.


In other streaming news Channel 4 is making All 4 accounts mandatory early next year (all in the name of targeted advertising).

https://www.engadget.com/2017/11/15/...-targeted-ads/

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TV Player have just had a shake up of their streaming packages and prices. It's a shocker. Nearly double the price it was for the same content.

https://tvplayer.com/plus

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More channels are on way apparantly TCM, Universal, FOX and Syfy are joining tvplayer plus max soon.
Movies 24 is joining lite.

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What I would say is TV Player are now offering some of the channels in HD. Boxnation launching on there was a surprise. Still a stand alone subscription at £12 per month. I wonder if that paves the way for other subscription channels like Premier Sports launching on their platform?

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Yeah boxnation was a surprise one thing is for sure tvplayer aren't messing around and look like they're here to stay.
They also offer the ppv channel itv box office too, be very interesting to see what tvplayer add in the future.

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I think TV Player might end up being a major threat to Sky, Virgin Media, BT and Talk Talk. The price will go up with more channels, but it should remain far cheaper than traditional pay tv packages.

A Now TV/TV Player subscription sounds a very attractive proposition.

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Very interesting article on the back page of the latest edition of webuser. The writer recons SKY might be dead in 10 years time, he also confirmed what OB has been saying that Amazon are indeed intending to go for football rights in the UK.
His article suggests once SKY lose the football it will be the beginning of the end for SKY tv.
Me personally i don't think it'd be the end of SKY but losing the football will certainly hurt them and they would have to think greatly about their pricing structure.

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I don't think it'll be the end of them either. They have 11 million TV subscribers but only around 5 million SKY Sports subscribers across all TV platforms. That means the vast majority of their TV customer base are happy to have a sport free subscription. Would they lose subscribers? Of course, probably millions of them but they'd still retain more than enough to make a non sport service viable. They'd still remain the biggest pay TV provider in the UK.... for a while.

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Agreed i rejoined SKY recently never took sports or movies just joined them for entertainment channels and documentarys got a cracking deal too £15p/m for 18 months.

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Chad, 5 million sports subscribers is almost 50% of their total subscribers, so if they lost that many customers it would be a huge financial blow to them, I don't think they would go bust, but you never know.

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There's a few answers to that , who says all those 5 million are football viewers ?

Sky currently pays nearly £1.4 billion a year which would be money it could spend elsewhere.

Who says the winning bidder wouldn't want it's content available across other platforms.

Should this happen it's likely Sky will have already been snapped up by a bigger player even if it's not Fox so I'm pretty sure they'll still be here.