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passingbat 08-03-2011 11:44

Re: TiVo
 
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Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35189326)


I gather there are only two tuners?

The third will be activated this month, and, what's a massive plus over the V+, is that all 3 will record and buffer programmes.

BenMcr 08-03-2011 11:48

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35189329)
is that all 3 will record and buffer programmes.

Under certain circumstances (in apparently quite a cool way) ;)

Doug P 08-03-2011 11:53

Re: TiVo
 
Thanks.... and as have had an email thing and am current customer have the chance to change to the TIVO system?

The Radio Player would be amazing!

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Do the apps cost extra when you use them?

passingbat 08-03-2011 11:56

Re: TiVo
 
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35189116)
VM are still Working out the kinks in the epg data. For now I would keep it on new and repeats just in case. It won't record repeats if you still have the original one on your TiVo.

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That's usefull to know, thanks,


What will happen with shows like Law and Order SVU on Universal, where they're not just showing the latest series, but earlier ones as well?

If you set a series link for just the laest series and set it for 'new and repeats', does it ignore previous series?

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35189332)
Under certain circumstances (in apparently quite a cool way) ;)

Could you expand on what the 'Under certain circumstances' bit means please?

BenMcr 08-03-2011 12:01

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35189335)
Could you expand on what the 'Under certain circumstances' bit means please?

Not seen it action yet so can't be 100% certain how it works yet. As soon as I do I will lol

Andy C 08-03-2011 13:56

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35189113)
It depends on the output resolutions you've selected. If you've ticked all 5 boxes it passes through whatever it gets. Otherwise it will up- or downscale as necessary.

My TV doesn't support 576i over HDMI so I wouldn't be able to watch SD if it always passed through.

I did some experimenting last night and only enabled 576p output so the TV, menus, everything was forced out at 576 as confirmed by my TV which displays the current mode. The SD menus and SD TV looked no different than when forced to upscale to 720p or 1080i. Even the HD menus looked decent (the TV has to use it's internal scaler to fill the 1920x1080 screen res). I then forced 720p out only, still no difference in SD image quality whereas the V+ would have upscaled and sharpened the image. Finally I forced 1080i only and was definitely the worst for SD broadcasts. So to me it appears TiVo is making no effort to resize and sharpen the image when set to 720p or 1080i.

576i was blurry as hell. There again if there's motion on screen 1080i gives a less sharp and less smooth image than 1080p.


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Doug P 08-03-2011 14:27

Re: TiVo
 
Andy C your technical and learned post is exactly what scares me stiff about TIVO!

herby247 08-03-2011 14:28

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35189329)
The third will be activated this month, and, what's a massive plus over the V+, is that all 3 will record and buffer programmes.

Ok, so the current V+ box has 3 tuners, so i can record 2 things at once, while watching something other than the 2 things i am recording.

But your saying on the tivo post update, i ll be able to record 3 things while wtaching something other than the 3 things i am recording, or will i have to be watching 1 of the 3 things i am recording?

Ps how is this known if the update hasnt arrived?

Thanks in advamce guys.

Rattus 08-03-2011 14:28

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy C (Post 35189391)
I did some experimenting last night and only enabled 576p output so the TV, menus, everything was forced out at 576 as confirmed by my TV which displays the current mode. The SD menus and SD TV looked no different than when forced to upscale to 720p or 1080i. Even the HD menus looked decent (the TV has to use it's internal scaler to fill the 1920x1080 screen res). I then forced 720p out only, still no difference in SD image quality whereas the V+ would have upscaled and sharpened the image. Finally I forced 1080i only and was definitely the worst for SD broadcasts. So to me it appears TiVo is making no effort to resize and sharpen the image when set to 720p or 1080i.

576i was blurry as hell. There again if there's motion on screen 1080i gives a less sharp and less smooth image than 1080p.


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It's actually pretty important to get this clarified by VM. As if you have a decent TV or AV Amp which upscales you will be better off setting SD to output to 576 as setting it to 720p or 1080i will prevent the TV/Amp scaling.

With reguard to this, can you output HD stuff at 1080i while outputting SD at 576 or if you want HD are you forced to output everything at HD resolutions even if the box isn't scaling?

Doug P 08-03-2011 14:34

Re: TiVo
 
Ok Rattus now am really lost. Am I going to be able to work this thing?!

passingbat 08-03-2011 14:43

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by herby247 (Post 35189405)
or will i have to be watching 1 of the 3 things i am recording?

Ps how is this known if the update hasnt arrived?

Thanks in advamce guys.

It has three tuners only so if all three are recording, you can't watch a fourth channel,

It's been posted on this forum about all three tuners being recordable.

Andy C 08-03-2011 15:56

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by herby247 (Post 35189405)
But your saying on the tivo post update, i ll be able to record 3 things while wtaching something other than the 3 things i am recording, or will i have to be watching 1 of the 3 things i am recording?

If there's 3 tuners then I would imagine you'll be able to record 3 channels, but you would either have to watch one of the shows being recorded or watch a previously recorded show. If there is no 4th tuner then you can't watch a fourth channel.

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Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35189406)
With reguard to this, can you output HD stuff at 1080i while outputting SD at 576 or if you want HD are you forced to output everything at HD resolutions even if the box isn't scaling?

When I have all resolutions enabled the TiVo selects 720p for SD content. If you enable only 576p and 1080i then it chooses to output SD at 1080i. You can't seem to get it to choose 576p output unless you disable both HD resolutions.


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Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35189403)
Andy C your technical and learned post is exactly what scares me stiff about TIVO!

Don't worry about it mate, the TiVo is really easy to use. The majority of people wont worry or need to fiddle with the settings I'm messing with as the box will auto detect your TVs best input.

It's definitely worth getting, and should you not like it (which I very much doubt) then cancel during the cooling off period. Even though i'm not best pleased with the SD picture quality I'd never go back to V+ :)


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Doug P 08-03-2011 16:17

Re: TiVo
 
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Originally Posted by Andy C[[/COLOR

Don't worry about it mate, the TiVo is really easy to use. The majority of people wont worry or need to fiddle with the settings I'm messing with as the box will auto detect your TVs best input.

It's definitely worth getting, and should you not like it (which I very much doubt) then cancel during the cooling off period. Even though i'm not best pleased with the SD picture quality I'd never go back to V+ :)


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Many thanks that is most reassuring!

Digital Fanatic 08-03-2011 16:26

Re: TiVo
 
Series links can now be set for TiVo remotely on virginmedia.com tv guide :)

ntl.wotcha 08-03-2011 16:35

Re: TiVo
 
Can you set the padding though ? ;)

but seriously, change the default to add 3 mins padding to the stop time.


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