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It seems to me that you and some others on here are doing the kicking. Conservative governments have always delivered for me, but of course, lefties will have a different view.

At least I accept that.

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What have they delivered for you personally? If your not a multi millionaire, a chum or alumni from school it'll be what they've delivered for the rest of us, sod all but like the rest of us you'll end up paying for it

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You do realise your statement shows your polarised viewpoint - if someone doesn’t agree with your viewpoint, they must be lefties…

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Sounds like your seeing the light over there on the left?

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Those who constantly criticise the Conservatives no matter what generally are, Hugh. You don’t have to have a polarised viewpoint to appreciate that.

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Sephiroth has been constantly criticising Johnson and other Conservatives - is he a leftie?

There have been a number of people who are/were active Conservative supporters/members who have criticised this Government for its behaviours - that doesn’t make us lefties, just people who disagree with their actions.

You seem to label anyone who doesn’t share your views as left-wing, when others may regard them as centrist or moderate.

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You are out of order. It’s not up to you to decide what or who, someone else should be voting for, just because you’re pissed off with them. :rolleyes:

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That may be your perception but it isn’t true.

I have never said Seph is a Leftie because he isn’t. Boris was a divisive figure within the party as well as outside it. One either liked him or they didn’t. But if they didn’t, that alone doesn’t make them lefties.

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My first post probably wasn't my finest moment tbf so if it's upset anyone please delete it, this one though I think is a perfectly reasonable question and it's one we should all be asking and it's exactly where our politicians have taken us, they can't be trusted with promises or what they might do and they certainly can't be trusted with what they'll do for the country, for me it's as basic as what have they done for me.

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It was your first post, I was referring to, I’d just used your 2nd follow up post, to indicate that I’d considered you, out of order.

It’s totally reasonable to ask someone why they’d chosen to vote the way they do, but your first post crossed a line, deriding someone for voting the way they do, not on.

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https://twitter.com/JAHeale/status/1552551146283323392

I wonder what the Tories think will happen if they continue to turn generations of people into renters rather than homeowners? The vote they're appealing to by preventing new homes is diminishing and the average age of a home buyer is ever increasing. I remember an article in The Spectator that said you can't expect people to be capitalists if they don't own any capital.

Meanwhile Truss is demanding police cut crime by 20% without more funding. Unless in addition to massively increasing spending on defence, and on the NHS, she is also going to give more funding to the police whilst giving out massive tax cuts.

These people aren't serious politicians.

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I'm confused as to what the actual topic is.

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I thought we were dealing with the fallout from Boris's resignation and what happens next, Maggy. Does the title need to be modified to reflect that, perhaps?

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We certainly need more housebuilding, but this should not be concentrating on the south of the country. We need to bring new workplaces and housing into the more deprived areas as part of the levelling up process, with good incentives for people to move there.

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What Truss is saying is that she wants the police to concentrate on solving cases involving criminals instead of the petty stuff that occupies their time now, such as disputes between individuals on the internet, for example.

There is still the bureaucracy and inefficiencies to deal with. The NHS is not the only public body with this problem.

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I agree here but you get the argument that people want to stay where they are. I can see this more in areas where families want to hand over to families (farms, small businesses) but we really do need to spread the load out away from the south. I had to move away from "home" for work, so what of it, surely it's part of growing up and leaving the family nest to build your own.



But then there is the issue that if work does move out from the south-east and people move with work they could end up causing inflation in the areas they move too and if care isn't taken still price "locals" out.

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