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1andrew1 05-07-2019 15:12

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36001510)
And as per usual, I see you fail to highlight nothing absolutely wrong with the Lib Dem’s mantra and profanity laden attire.

You used to like that word until the LibDems started using it. :D

I'm not sure that if you criticise a controversy-filled speech in the EU Parliament (that leavers like Sephiroth have also criticised), you can only do so if you find fault with another party in the European Parliament.

Mick 05-07-2019 18:43

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36001517)
You used to like that word until the LibDems started using it. :D

I'm not sure that if you criticise a controversy-filled speech in the EU Parliament (that leavers like Sephiroth have also criticised), you can only do so if you find fault with another party in the European Parliament.

The difference is, I’m not professing to be a professional, adult political party. So your point is moot.

OLD BOY 06-07-2019 00:03

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36001517)
You used to like that word until the LibDems started using it. :D

I'm not sure that if you criticise a controversy-filled speech in the EU Parliament (that leavers like Sephiroth have also criticised), you can only do so if you find fault with another party in the European Parliament.

Whatever. That word is still offensive. However you spin it.

1andrew1 06-07-2019 00:08

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36001560)
Whatever. That word is still offensive. However you spin it.

No spin from me.

OLD BOY 06-07-2019 00:10

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36001562)
No spin from me.

Maybe not. Just approval, it seems.

1andrew1 06-07-2019 00:34

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36001540)
The difference is, I’m not professing to be a professional, adult political party. So your point is moot.

Surely it's ok for posters like Sephiroth and others to criticise a speech from Ann Widdecombe without having to dig up something from another party and criticise it in the same post?

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36001563)
Maybe not. Just approval, it seems.

Where is the approval? If someone like me or Sephiroth calls Ann Widdecombe out for a speech, there is no obligation for us to go back X number of days, minutes and hours and find something from someone else to criticise. Do you really want everyone to live in some kind of Orwellian 1984?

OLD BOY 06-07-2019 01:54

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36001564)
Surely it's ok for posters like Sephiroth and others to criticise a speech from Ann Widdecombe without having to dig up something from another party and criticise it in the same post?

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Where is the approval? If someone like me or Sephiroth calls Ann Widdecombe out for a speech, there is no obligation for us to go back X number of days, minutes and hours and find something from someone else to criticise. Do you really want everyone to live in some kind of Orwellian 1984?

So you are out to dredge up any nasty stuff on anyone who disagrees with you. H'mm, just as I thought.

Do you have the ability to make any constructive comments?

Anne Widdescombe could not be any further from 1984. What are you talking about exactly? Are you perhaps a little confused?

Sorry, but I can't quite understand where you are coming from. :beer:

1andrew1 06-07-2019 08:20

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36001568)
So you are out to dredge up any nasty stuff on anyone who disagrees with you. H'mm, just as I thought.

Do you have the ability to make any constructive comments?

Anne Widdescombe could not be any further from 1984. What are you talking about exactly? Are you perhaps a little confused?

Sorry, but I can't quite understand where you are coming from. :beer:

My apologies for any lack of clarity.
All I'm saying is that you can criticise Politician A without having to criticise Politician B.

denphone 06-07-2019 08:36

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36001574)
My apologies for any lack of clarity.
All I'm saying is that you can criticise Politician A without having to criticise Politician B.

Well that very much depends Andrew as if politician A and Politician B are both very much of the same cloth then you can criticise both of them.;)

Mick 06-07-2019 08:36

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36001574)
My apologies for any lack of clarity.
All I'm saying is that you can criticise Politician A without having to criticise Politician B.

Then you will have no issues with being accused of hypocrisy. Anyway...
Enough. Time to move on. Sick of this repetitive banal discourse about what Ann Widdecombe suppose to have said.

nomadking 06-07-2019 08:42

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36001370)
it not try living in a real dictatorship like North Korea then say that yes lots wrong with EU but it aint a dictatorship people have lots of freedoms you never ever get in a dictatorship

People have the vote in North Korea, but only one result is allowed. Sound familiar? Doesn't matter if 99% of this country wanted something, we wouldn't get it. That is undemocratic.

Hugh 06-07-2019 08:50

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36001577)
People have the vote in North Korea, but only one result is allowed. Sound familiar? Doesn't matter if 99% of this country wanted something, we wouldn't get it. That is undemocratic.

Because NK is renowned for it’s Freedom of Movement between it and other countries, has a hereditary Supreme Leader who murders opponents, and has millions of it’s people starving - sounds just like the EU... :rolleyes:

Mick 06-07-2019 09:05

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36001579)
Because NK is renowned for it’s Freedom of Movement between it and other countries, has a hereditary Supreme Leader who murders opponents, and has millions of it’s people starving - sounds just like the EU... :rolleyes:

Irrelevant- that narrow mindedness is back I see. Your defence of the EU is getting boring Hugh.

Regardless-They have an undemocratic system when only one candidate is put forward for confirmation by MEP’s. The EU is undemocratic and you cannot refute this fact, so perhaps, stop trying. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36001577)
People have the vote in North Korea, but only one result is allowed. Sound familiar? Doesn't matter if 99% of this country wanted something, we wouldn't get it. That is undemocratic.

Spot on. MEP’s got to vote on a nomination by someone not even on a ballot paper. A failing German minister. The EU Council ignored the lead candidate system, designed to stem the very concept of accusations of the EU being undemocratic.

papa smurf 06-07-2019 09:18

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36001582)
Irrelevant- that narrow mindedness is back I see. Your defence of the EU is getting boring Hugh.

Regardless-They have an undemocratic system when only one candidate is put forward for confirmation by MEP’s. The EU is undemocratic and you cannot refute this fact, so perhaps, stop trying. :rolleyes:

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Spot on. MEP’s got to vote on a nomination by someone not even on a ballot paper. A failing German minister. The EU Council ignored the lead candidate system, designed to stem the very concept of accusations of the EU being undemocratic.

It's all about standards and when the bar is set lower than a snakes belly people are fooled into thinking it's a democratic vote. [with only one candidate]

Mr K 06-07-2019 09:18

Re: Brexit
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36001582)
Irrelevant- that narrow mindedness is back I see. Your defence of the EU is getting boring Hugh.

Regardless-They have an undemocratic system when only one candidate is put forward for confirmation by MEP’s. The EU is undemocratic and you cannot refute this fact, so perhaps, stop trying. :rolleyes:

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Spot on. MEP’s got to vote on a nomination by someone not even on a ballot paper. A failing German minister. The EU Council ignored the lead candidate system, designed to stem the very concept of accusations of the EU being undemocratic.

We can't brag on democracy either. The next PM is being chosen by 0.2% of the population, some of whom have received more than one vote ! Way to go democracy UK !

As for the EU, the recent EU elections bases on a PR system is far more democratic than our first past the post, where depending on which constitutency you're in your vote is pointless.

Try moving the goal posts again as the EU win on democracy ;)


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