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papa smurf 23-02-2021 17:00

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36071740)
I have a natural curiousity, and like to find answers - "some men see things as they are, and say why. I dream of things that never were, and say why not...",

I'm not a doughnut, though... :D

why not;)

Sephiroth 23-02-2021 17:13

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36071740)
I have a natural curiousity, and like to find answers - "some men see things as they are, and say why. I dream of things that never were, and say why not...",

I'm not a doughnut, though... :D

Nah - I don't buy that. You were setting someone up!
Eh?

Paul 23-02-2021 18:39

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36071735)
On the 'COVID Passport' thing, it looks like the IATA is working on something for travelling - https://www.iata.org/en/youandiata/t...for-travelers/

Makes sense to have something global and consistent and hopefully replaces the old Yellow Card documents.

Doesnt seem like much use unless you have a smart phone.

RichardCoulter 23-02-2021 20:36

Re: Coronavirus
 
I wonder if we'll ever see combined flu/covid vaccinations. It would make things easier for everybody.

pip08456 23-02-2021 20:37

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36071747)
Doesnt seem like much use unless you have a smart phone.

Don't need one.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1614112598

Hugh 23-02-2021 20:39

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36071752)
I wonder if we'll ever see combined flu/covid vaccinations. It would make things easier for everybody.

I wonder why no one has ever thought of combing vaccines before?

Sephiroth 23-02-2021 21:28

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36071752)
I wonder if we'll ever see combined flu/covid vaccinations. It would make things easier for everybody.

No it won't. Not everybody.

I always get a nasty flu like reaction to the flu jab; but no reaction whatsoever to the Covid vaccine.

jfman 23-02-2021 22:18

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Indeed the risks of side effects (and subsequent challenge in identifying what exactly caused it) and additional pressure on the immune system is undesirable. Probably could be done but would take years. Time, cost and effort better placed elsewhere.

My dad has problems with his immune system and had a minor fever the morning after the AZ vaccine. Minor bugs can put him in hospital for a couple of days and this happens every 18 months or so. Mum had it a few days later and was completely fine. No tiredness, nothing.

Paul 23-02-2021 22:19

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One of the questions they ask when you get the jab is have you had any other vaccinations in the last 7 days (like flu).

If you have you must rebook for a later date. So no, they wont be combined.

Hugh 23-02-2021 23:02

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36071743)
Nah - I don't buy that. You were setting someone up!
Eh?

Ich bin kein Berliner ;)

jonbxx 24-02-2021 08:41

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36071764)
One of the questions they ask when you get the jab is have you had any other vaccinations in the last 7 days (like flu).

If you have you must rebook for a later date. So no, they wont be combined.

That's just because we don't know what the effect will be yet in combining doses. We have lots of other mixed vaccines - DPT, its cousin DTaP, MMR for example.

The nice thing is that that mRNA and adenovirus vaccines are now looking to be proven technology which lays the ground for much more agile flu vaccine production. If we can just drop in the relevant antigen RNA or DNA in to the COVID vaccine platform, then that will be great! Less likely to give nasty side effects and saves a LOT of eggs as you only get three doses per egg right now for current flu vaccines.

1andrew1 24-02-2021 12:04

Re: Coronavirus
 
Survey from the university behind one of the vaccines, Oxford University.
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Vaccine support surges ‘massively,' but Brexit voters less likely to take it - study shows

A new study from Oxford University suggests over three quarters of people in the UK are now “very likely” to take the Covid vaccine, but Leave voters are seven percentage points less likely to take it than Remainers.

The survey of over 1200 Brits, found the proportion saying they would be “very likely” to take the vaccine has increased from 50 percent to over three quarters, between October and February.

Although around seven percent of the population say they are still “very unlikely” to take the jab, most people who said in October that they “didn’t know” or were “unlikely” to have the vaccine, say they are now “very likely” to do so.

Political factors were a “very strong predictor willingness to take the vaccine”, the study found.

Those who didn’t vote, or voted Brexit or Green party in the December 2019 election were least willing to take the vaccine, while SNP and Liberal Democrats were most positive about the jab.

Supporters of Nigel Farage’s new Reform UK party - formerly the Brexit Party - are the most hesitant, with just over 50% saying they will take the vaccine, compared to 100% of SNP voters.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/covid-vac...rd-university/

jfman 24-02-2021 12:20

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Well they've had enough of experts.

Interesting about the SNP too. Perhaps indicative of the value of good public messaging daily from the First Minister or the extent that other voters in Scotland would boycott it just to spite her.

nomadking 24-02-2021 12:26

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36071752)
I wonder if we'll ever see combined flu/covid vaccinations. It would make things easier for everybody.

The medical advice is that you can't have a covid jab, if you've very recently had a flu jab. A factor may be, how well can the immune system deal with 2 or more fake viruses at one point in time.

Sephiroth 24-02-2021 12:56

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36071800)
Survey from the university behind one of the vaccines, Oxford University.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/covid-vac...rd-university/

What a stupid survey. It's right up Andrew's street and that pains me even more.


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