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papa smurf 05-07-2019 09:18

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36001432)
Appropriately hosted by the Express ..

Originally hosted by BBC news night,but it's not about the messenger service it's about the message reaching the intellectually challenged,probably still went over some peoples heads but at least she tried to educate them.

Damien 05-07-2019 09:21

Re: Brexit
 
I can't really see the intellectual justification to compare the EU's membership of the EU to 'slaves rising up against their masters'. She seems to be more unhinged than usual lately.

OLD BOY 05-07-2019 09:51

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36001435)
I can't really see the intellectual justification to compare the EU's membership of the EU to 'slaves rising up against their masters'. She seems to be more unhinged than usual lately.

Really, Damien? You and your followers take everything so literally! You know what she meant, you know very well. We are not free while part of the EU.

Sephiroth 05-07-2019 09:58

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36001441)
Really, Damien? You and your followers take everything so literally! You know what she meant, you know very well. We are not free while part of the EU.

OB, I agree with Damien here. I find the EU to be highly undemocratic and we need to get our sovereignty back. However, we are not slaves and they are not oppressors.

Her grandstanding speech was unwisely phrased and she's made herself a laughing stock.

OLD BOY 05-07-2019 10:10

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36001442)
OB, I agree with Damien here. I find the EU to be highly undemocratic and we need to get our sovereignty back. However, we are not slaves and they are not oppressors.

Her grandstanding speech was unwisely phrased and she's made herself a laughing stock.

I agree it was over the top, Seph. But all this feigned 'offence' taken by the country's thought controllers has become rather ridiculous, don't you think?

Sephiroth 05-07-2019 10:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36001444)
I agree it was over the top, Seph. But all this feigned 'offence' taken by the country's thought controllers has become rather ridiculous, don't you think?

Whilst I understand your point about the country's 'thought controllers', their expressions of outrage are no stronger than mine.

I do not recognise Widdecombe as a reasonable ambassador for Brexit.


1andrew1 05-07-2019 10:55

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36001441)
Really, Damien? You and your followers take everything so literally! You know what she meant, you know very well. We are not free while part of the EU.

I'm not sure Damien is the Messiah nor is he a very naughty boy for that matter. :D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36001445)
Whilst I understand your point about the country's 'thought controllers', their expressions of outrage are no stronger than mine.

I do not recognise Widdecombe as a reasonable ambassador for Brexit.


Put it this way, she's a great asset to the campaign. To the remain campaign, I mean.:D

Sephiroth 05-07-2019 11:01

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36001450)
I'm not sure Damien is the Messiah nor is he a very naughty boy for that matter. :D

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Put it this way, she's a great asset to the campaign. To the remain campaign, I mean.:D

I don't think so. She's just a joke to both sides. Nothing she said protects the remain cause.

ianch99 05-07-2019 11:06

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36001445)
Whilst I understand your point about the country's 'thought controllers', their expressions of outrage are no stronger than mine.

I do not recognise Widdecombe as a reasonable ambassador for Brexit.


I tend to think the over-the-top, vindictive hyperbole by her and her Brexit Party colleagues will, in the long run, harm their cause. If they debated as adults rather than constantly try and excite their followers with patently childish descriptions: corrupt, cancerous, oppressors, feudal barons, etc, they would fare better in the long run.

I understand the strategy where you appeal to the base emotions with simplistic and vivid messages but this does not belong in serious political discourse.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36001434)
Originally hosted by BBC news night,but it's not about the messenger service it's about the message reaching the intellectually challenged,probably still went over some peoples heads but at least she tried to educate them.

No, it is *all* about the messenger service ...

Hugh 05-07-2019 11:06

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36001431)
Anne Widecombe explains speech for the intellectually challenged.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/11...y-nigel-farage

Or....

Justification for the intellectually gullible...

ianch99 05-07-2019 11:09

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36001450)
I'm not sure Damien is the Messiah nor is he a very naughty boy for that matter. :D

I thought Damien belonged to the "other" lot? :) :devsmoke:

papa smurf 05-07-2019 11:49

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36001464)
Or....

Justification for the intellectually gullible...

Those who think the EU is a democratic organisation.

Damien 05-07-2019 12:53

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36001465)
I thought Damien belonged to the "other" lot? :) :devsmoke:

Our lot is very happy with the Life of Brian. :devsmoke:

Mick 05-07-2019 14:47

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36001462)
I tend to think the over-the-top, vindictive hyperbole by her and her Brexit Party colleagues will, in the long run, harm their cause. If they debated as adults rather than constantly try and excite their followers with patently childish descriptions: corrupt, cancerous, oppressors, feudal barons, etc, they would fare better in the long run.

I understand the strategy where you appeal to the base emotions with simplistic and vivid messages but this does not belong in serious political discourse.

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No, it is *all* about the messenger service ...

And as per usual, I see you fail to highlight nothing absolutely wrong with the Lib Dem’s mantra and profanity laden attire.

OLD BOY 05-07-2019 14:52

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36001510)
And as per usual, I see you fail to highlight nothing absolutely wrong with the Lib Dem’s mantra and profanity laden attire.

I agree, Mick, my whole being was offended by that word! :D


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