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BenMcr 25-07-2022 19:51

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36129156)
I cannot see how BJ would be back, surely that would require the current winner to resign, followed by another leadership election he would win - that seems .... unlikely.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-tory-members/

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Boris Johnson tells friend: I don’t want to resign and will stay on if Tory members back me
Premier would ‘wipe away everything that stops me being PM in a second’ as he says unequivocally that he wishes to carry on

Damien 25-07-2022 21:14

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Sunak is so much better at this. I don't understand what the Tory Members see in Truss.

peanut 25-07-2022 21:18

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36129487)
Sunak is so much better at this. I don't understand what the Tory Members see in Truss.

Maybe because of what they see in Sunak is the reason Truss is the favourite.

Mr K 25-07-2022 22:02

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36129487)
Sunak is so much better at this. I don't understand what the Tory Members see in Truss.

They see tax cuts for themselves, at a time of massive national debt, and the next generation having to pay for it. The most selfish generation ever.

Sunak is certainly the most realistic of the two.

1andrew1 25-07-2022 23:18

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36129487)
Sunak is so much better at this. I don't understand what the Tory Members see in Truss.

Maybe there's other reasons apart from ability? Someone who's not so wealthy? A female leader in contrast to Johnson and Starmer?

Personally, I rate Sunak far higher than Truss.

OLD BOY 26-07-2022 07:41

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Wealth shouldn't come into it. Sunak is a self made man and he has shown through his success that he can get results.

What should matter to people is getting the person with the clear ability to run the country successfully in good times and bad. Where they came from and how much wealth they have, by themselves, are pretty irrelevant, really.

papa smurf 26-07-2022 08:22

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36129496)
Maybe there's other reasons apart from ability? Someone who's not so wealthy? A female leader in contrast to Johnson and Starmer?

Personally, I rate Sunak far higher than Truss.

He'd be more at home in the labour party so he could tax and tax till the pips squeak.

ianch99 26-07-2022 08:35

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I think Truss did far better last night than anyone expected. She must have prepped like mad for this. She pitched the things the (predominantly old, xenophobic & wealthy) membership want to hear. Yes, she will trash the place even more than now but I guess we do sometimes get the Leaders we deserve.

Sunak came across as snappy and petulant. Tried to peddle the aspirational, self-made man shtick but no one is buying that rubbish.

Truss it is then ..

Hugh 26-07-2022 10:55

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36129501)
Wealth shouldn't come into it. Sunak is a self made man and he has shown through his success that he can get results.

What should matter to people is getting the person with the clear ability to run the country successfully in good times and bad. Where they came from and how much wealth they have, by themselves, are pretty irrelevant, really.

He paid his own way through Stroud Prep, boarding at Winchester College Private school, for his PPE at Oxford, and his MBA at Stanford, California? (and his £13,000 a month beachfront apartment whilst he was at Stanford).

Impressive…

btw, at the time he was a partner at a Hedge Fund, he was also a Director at his Father-in-law’s* investment firm Catamaran Ventures - I’m sure that had no bearing on the Hedge Fund offering him a position…

I think most people would find it easier to be "self-made" and "get results" if some else paid for them to go to Private School & Oxbridge, gave them a £100,000 interest-free loan to buy a flat in London, then married a billionaire’s daughter…

Just to be clear, I prefer Sunak over Truss (much like I’d prefer a broken arm to an amputation), but let’s not romanticise his past or diminish the advantages he has had to get where he is.

*the multi-billionaire Nagavara Murthy

papa smurf 26-07-2022 13:10

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I started out with nothing and i've still got most of it left.

Hugh 26-07-2022 14:02

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"As far as I’m aware" doing a lot of heavy lifting in that statement…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1658840087

Two days previously, he had attended a high-level Nato summit that focused on Russia.

Pure coincidence, I am sure…

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I wonder if he was ambushed by coke, sorry, by cake?

Mr K 26-07-2022 17:01

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36129366)
I still have a maroon passport, as do many other people.
Stamped, yes, a reason and funds ? nope wasnt asked about either.

You might well be asked in the future.
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British tourists may need to show Spain’s border officials that they have €100 (£85) for every day they spend on holiday in the country, the Spanish Government says.

Post-Brexit regulations mean that Brits will be treated as citizens from ‘third countries’ – different to those from the EU, impacting freedoms while visiting Europe.

Spanish immigration staff may also ask Brits to prove they have a return ticket or proof of accommodation while in the country and passports will now need to be stamped.

On the Interior Ministry’s requirements for entry, tourists are told: ‘Currently, the minimum amount to be credited is €100 per person per day, with a minimum of €900 or its legal equivalent in foreign currency.’

That means that a group of five staying for a week would in theory need to prove they had access to €3,500 (£2,955) – or €7,000 (£5,910), for a fortnight’s holiday.

It comes amid growing concerns about the impact of Brexit on travel, with major tailbacks at Dover and other ports and Brits facing delays in immigration queues across Europe
https://metro.co.uk/2022/07/26/briti...pain-17070901/

Sephiroth 26-07-2022 17:14

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36129551)
You might well be asked in the future.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/07/26/briti...pain-17070901/

Reads like a Spanish tourism suicide note. Please add Spain to my shit list of France and Ireland governments.

Hugh 26-07-2022 17:27

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36129552)
Reads like a Spanish tourism suicide note. Please add Spain to my shit list of France and Ireland governments.

I imagine they will be as distraught as the French and Irish Governments are… ;)

Sephiroth 26-07-2022 17:32

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36129554)
I imagine they will be as distraught as the French and Irish Governments are… ;)

Your imagination is only surpassed by your sarcasm.


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