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Mr K 23-07-2022 10:40
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36129144)
There are definitely similarities with Trump... No wonder they love each other as well as themselves !

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Although the prospect of Dizzy Lizzy or Slimy Sunak doesn't seem to be inspiring the populace:-

Labour would win a majority (just!) if an election was held today

LAB: 327 MPs (+125)
CON: 223 (-142)

https://mobile.twitter.com/BritainEl...62471642791939

Paul 23-07-2022 11:44
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36129146)
Labour would win a majority (just!) if an election was held today

LAB: 327 MPs (+125)
CON: 223 (-142)

https://mobile.twitter.com/BritainEl...62471642791939
You mean much like polls said remain would win ?

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I cannot see how BJ would be back, surely that would require the current winner to resign, followed by another leadership election he would win - that seems .... unlikely.

jfman 23-07-2022 11:53
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36129156)
You mean much like polls said remain would win ?
https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/

Polls were much more split than many recall, in particular as the campaign moved into May and June 2016. Earlier than that undecideds and the inherent margin of error have many polls have leave very much in the game even if they did lean remain.

OLD BOY 23-07-2022 14:10
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36129156)
I cannot see how BJ would be back, surely that would require the current winner to resign, followed by another leadership election he would win - that seems .... unlikely.
Unless, of course, he forms a new party. Team Boris and Nige would cause quite a stir!

Pierre 23-07-2022 16:22
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36129146)
Although the prospect of Dizzy Lizzy or Slimy Sunak doesn't seem to be inspiring the populace
This is the problem, I am totally unenthused by both. Truss because she comes across as incompetent fool (and that’s saying something considering who she’s replacing) and Sunak because he can’t pretend he wasn’t one of the guys with their hand on the tiller ove the last 3 years.

Labour continue to offer nothing, the lead Labour now have has nothing to do with any policy or proposition proposed by them. It’s purely down to the Tory implosion.

If Labour were smart they’d ditch Starmer now.

ianch99 23-07-2022 16:25
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36129183)
This is the problem, I am totally unenthused by both. Truss because she comes across as incompetent fool (and that’s saying something considering who she’s replacing) and Sunak because he can’t pretend he wasn’t one of the guys with their hand on the tiller ove the last 3 years.

Labour continue to offer nothing, the lead Labour now have has nothing to do with any policy or proposition proposed by them. It’s purely down to the Tory implosion.

If Labour were smart they’d ditch Starmer now.
Fair summary ..

TheDaddy 23-07-2022 16:28
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36129167)
Unless, of course, he forms a new party. Team Boris and Nige would cause quite a stir!

Wonder what the name of this new team would be, Team Lie seems quite apt and the stir they'd cause would be them stood there trying to out fib one another, mind you I can't see the team lasting long, 'nige' said he'd leave the country if Brexit failed, unless he's using the victorian wretches timetable he won't be here much longer, of course he may have been lying when he said that though :shocked:

Paul 23-07-2022 17:46
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36129167)
Unless, of course, he forms a new party. Team Boris and Nige would cause quite a stir!
How would that help, any new party would have zero seats or power.

ianch99 23-07-2022 18:16
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36129188)
How would that help, any new party would have zero seats or power.
It would help as it would split the Tory vote :)

Damien 23-07-2022 18:57
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If he really does think he can get back in then he is assuming the next person will crash and burn and the Tory party turns its lonely eyes to him.

There is another scenario in that The Telegraph is pushing for a members' revolt that demands that Johnson's resignation is put before them so they can vote not to accept.

jfman 23-07-2022 19:03
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I’m not sure my sides could take the laughter.

Sephiroth 23-07-2022 19:13
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36129196)
If he really does think he can get back in then he is assuming the next person will crash and burn and the Tory party turns its lonely eyes to him.

There is another scenario in that The Telegraph is pushing for a members' revolt that demands that Johnson's resignation is put before them so they can vote not to accept.
I'm an avid Torygraph reader and the relevant article (maybe paywalled https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-tory-members/ ) is a straightforward piece of reporting. The Torygraph is not "pushing for a members' revolt".

Indeed the opposite is true with this piece of editorial:

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This Conservative Government set out to improve life, employment and services in areas that had suffered neglect. But despite the Prime Minister’s claim this week that his mission was “largely accomplished”, the reality is that – as the former Secretary of State for Levelling Up, Michael Gove, has pointed out – instead of the broken being fixed, once reliable “core functions” of government are now breaking too.


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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36129197)
I’m not sure my sides could take the laughter.
Only one way of finding out!

Mr K 23-07-2022 19:14
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36129200)
I'm an avid Torygraph reader and the relevant article (maybe paywalled https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-tory-members/ ) is a straightforward piece of reporting. The Torygraph is not "pushing for a members' revolt".

Indeed the opposite is true with this piece of editorial:
Boris should get his armed pensioner support to storm Parliament. If it good enough for Trump....
The first thing they'll need to find is the toilets ;)

OLD BOY 23-07-2022 20:13
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36129185)
Wonder what the name of this new team would be, Team Lie seems quite apt and the stir they'd cause would be them stood there trying to out fib one another, mind you I can't see the team lasting long, 'nige' said he'd leave the country if Brexit failed, unless he's using the victorian wretches timetable he won't be here much longer, of course he may have been lying when he said that though :shocked:
The ‘Freedom Party’ seems to encapsulate the mood.

Incidentally, Brexit hasn’t failed.We haven’t even begun to take advantage of our freedom from Big Brother yet.

Sephiroth 23-07-2022 20:25
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36129212)
The ‘Freedom Party’ seems to encapsulate the mood.

Incidentally, Brexit hasn’t failed.We haven’t even begun to take advantage of our freedom from Big Brother yet.
,,,, because of the shit government we've been under.


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