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1andrew1 06-01-2022 10:10
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36108216)
Well, my point is, of course, that this is the known unknown. It would be more honest to point out what we do know, and draw attention to what is needed to redress the balance.
We're not landing on Mars for the first time or something, Old Boy. There may well be some tinkering around the edges on financial services like Solvency II but nothing that's going to make a noticeable difference to GDP.

Sephiroth 06-01-2022 10:23
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36108238)
We're not landing on Mars for the first time or something, Old Boy. There may well be some tinkering around the edges on financial services like Solvency II but nothing that's going to make a noticeable difference to GDP.
The "or something" is that this is the first time that a country has left the EU, having been tightly bound to its systems for 40+ years.

Carth 06-01-2022 10:30
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36108239)
The "or something" is that this is the first time that a country has left the EU, having been tightly bound to its systems for 40+ years.
I'll gladly pick up on "the first time" as opposed to "the only time"

Definite signs of promise there :D

1andrew1 06-01-2022 10:38
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36108239)
The "or something" is that this is the first time that a country has left the EU, having been tightly bound to its systems for 40+ years.
We've ported over all the rules and most of the trade deals. Not much can change in a year. What changes can the UK make in a year that will make a dent in the 4% drop in GDP?

Sephiroth 06-01-2022 10:42
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36108245)
We've ported over all the rules and most of the trade deals. Not much can change in a year. What changes can the UK make in a year that will make a dent in the 4% drop in GDP?
Isn't that what OB is postulating? The longer game is what will un-dent the 4% fall in GDP.

Hugh 06-01-2022 10:44
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36108247)
Isn't that what OB is postulating? The longer game is what will un-dent the 4% fall in GDP.
Around 50 years, according to Rees-Mogg…

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b0de86f48e3566

1andrew1 06-01-2022 10:51
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36108247)
Isn't that what OB is postulating? The longer game is what will un-dent the 4% fall in GDP.
The context is he feels the economists' predictions for one year are too negative. They're not predicting the next 100 years, just the next year.

I'm looking for something more substantial than "hope" to back up his hypothesis. Rocket science this question ain't.

Sephiroth 06-01-2022 12:04
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36108250)
Around 50 years, according to Rees-Mogg…

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b0de86f48e3566
If that's the case, what will be the real terms effect on ordinary British people?


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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36108253)
The context is he feels the economists' predictions for one year are too negative. They're not predicting the next 100 years, just the next year.

I'm looking for something more substantial than "hope" to back up his hypothesis. Rocket science this question ain't.
Moving away from OB, for now, I would observe that prediction for the next year is driven by the need for businesses to assure their micro-future.

The macro-future is what the 52% voted for.

Hugh 06-01-2022 13:50
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Yes, I remember so many Leave voters mentioning that…

Sephiroth 06-01-2022 15:02
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36108277)
Yes, I remember so many Leave voters mentioning that…
Good.

TheDaddy 06-01-2022 16:13
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36108292)
Good.
I don't remember hearing that, in fact I heard more people saying they were voting to leave the ECHR :erm:

Chris 06-01-2022 16:16
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36108299)
I don't remember hearing that, in fact I heard more people saying they were voting to leave the ECHR :erm:
Weird, as that was never on the table.

Hugh 06-01-2022 16:23
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36108292)
Good.
Yup - couldn’t go to the pub or the supermarket without someone bending your ear about their macro-future…

TheDaddy 06-01-2022 16:29
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36108300)
Weird, as that was never on the table.
Indeed, which neatly proves my point, was on here that was said to incidentally

Sephiroth 09-01-2022 22:21
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Quote:
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