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I’m unsure where these “huge immigrant waves” went. Even if I accepted the point, if not the emotive terminology, EU citizens living, working and paying tax in the UK is a good thing.

Is there a long term plan to improve the economy from leaving? By when will we match the pre-Brexit economy?

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What, the austerity that was necessary after Labour's mismanagement of the economy which left the incoming coalition with no money?

The point is, we cannot keep taking in more and more people. You must surely see that there has to be a limit.

We will be free of a lot of that EU legislation that fetters the ability of our businesses to compete. We will negotiate trade deals that better meet our requirements, re-establishing our links with the Commonwealth countries when we abandoned them on joining the Common Market, we will have more trade with developing African markets and we will be joining other trading blocs to increase trade on favourable terms. At the same time, trading with the EU will remain much the same as it is now.

Britain has a brilliant future outside the EU and personally, I can't wait to see this reality.

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How can ever increasing immigration be a good thing when our services cannot cope with what they are dealing with now?

If Theresa May gets her deal through Parliament, I doubt that we will be taking a financial hit. Why would we?

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From May's letter to the nation.

I'm sure I've seen something like this before.
Was it on the side of a bus?

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A bit less, actually! :D

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Politicians talk is cheap as we all know , actual deliverance is far harder..

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If someone comes to the country, works and pays tax yes that’s a good thing.

If from that tax the Government (and it’s consecutive governments of both colours) underfunds public services that’s the problem of Government, not the migrant. Housing underpins most problems in this country, but it will never be adequately solved because of the wealth held and borrowing against house prices.

Many immigrants work in our public services, supporting them rather than taking from them.

You still haven’t cited an example of EU legislation making business worse off. It’s just the usual generic waffle about trade deals (as yet undefined) and a better future (maybe). Back to the glory days of Empire with the Commonwealth trade deals.

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Are you saying that the current Tory government is communist?

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There is a limit, jfman. You can't just keep taking more people in. We are a small country and we don't need a further increase in our population.

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We actually do need an increase in working age population and taxpayers to fund pensions. There’s plenty of space in the country as well, however the London/South East centred economy isn’t encouraging distribution of the population as a whole.

Solving these underlying issues should be far more important than “ending freedom of movement”. I’m also willing to bet something half baked comes from this and net migration figures will remain relatively unchanged. But we will have put two fingers up to Brussels, reclaimed sovereignty, etc etc.

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But the tax they are paying is tax that somebody already in the UK could be paying instead. Their only contribution to GDP is their own consumption. Eg Food and that usually has to be specially imported from THEIR countries.

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I can never understand people saying this, when the unemployment figures show there are a few million sitting on their backsides.

Once again, probably the fault of various Governments paying more in benefits than some people earn :rolleyes:

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I’d be amazed if the statistics showed that EU citizens in the UK specifically import anything but a small amount of items from their home country.

You are also making the flawed assumption that the UK has people with the skills or motivation to do the jobs being done by EU nationals.

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Ah the benefit scrounger, one level above the immigrant in the Brexit social hierarchy. Again these are underlying problems that won’t be solved by ending freedom of movement.

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Eg There was a TV programme where a Czech Roma couple had arrived in Rotherham with TWENTY-TWO of their children and grandchildren. Only one of them had a job. So they, along with an estimated 6,000 other Czech Roma just in Rotherham had to be housed, funded with benefits etc. The fallacy is that enough of the 3m EU residents actually contribute.



So is the stock in all the Eastern European shops produced in the UK?

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So the PM gets a free pass on telling a lie to the to the nation whereas the leave campaign got pilloried for even suggesting it by those who can't tell the difference between a suggestion and a promise?