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So flu goes unnoticed.................ohhh okay!

You Mean like this? 2008

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...s-Britain.html

Or as predicted in 2018?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...eason-history/

Or like it did in 2016?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/n...test-8pnmdpdfx

Or as advised in 2014?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...d-flu-pandemic


Yep, hardly noticeable.

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Ooh what a thing to say,do you have a few hundred examples ;)

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From your first link.
From a few weeks ago.

Thousandfold number of deaths. Now that's noticeable.

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Another lawbreaker ?

Gary Lineker hypocrisy: BBC star flouts COVID rules as he shops in M&S without face mask

The outspoken former footballer was pictured wandering around Marks & Spencer in Barnes, south-west London, on Sunday without a mask - after months of lecturing others to do just that.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/13...-face-covering

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No one's claiming it's unlawful - my quote confirms this. Sub-optimal at the least.

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Oh, look - here’s the Telegraph, the Daily Mail, and the Daily Express smearing the Government...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-covered.html

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...s-latest-no-10

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...er-government/

Bunch of lefties...

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I wasn’t aware we lived in France.

You stated/implied that the flu goes by “unnoticed” in the UK. I simply proved that wasn’t the case. No more, no less - you may move on.

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That’s neither what Nomadking or I said.

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Sorry, I may have mis-understood

Nomad said, which you subsequently cheerleaded

Which certainly says to me that regular flu, does go unnoticed and doesn’t fill up hospitals. You explain to me How that statement doesn’t say that...........

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He said if it was the same as regular flu it’d have gone unnoticed. Which, to any reasonable person, is to say that there would have been similar numbers to and impacts on healthcare provision as seasonal flu.

Everyone knows seasonal flu happens and it has some impact on healthcare provision. Indeed, capacity is to a greater or lesser extent built around winter flu season. If it was just a seasonal flu it’d have had a routine impact. “Unnoticed” I took to clearly mean for the average observer considering the ordinary impacts of these things on their day to day lives. I’m not sure the people in Wuhan “didn’t notice” the impact or Coronavirus. Or those in Northern Italy.

I’m not sure digging up scaremongering stories from tabloids overstating season flu is equivalent to Coronavirus. Indeed, the Daily Mail assures me each year that it will be the coldest winter on record, with the warmest heatwaves ever, the odd hurricane and 8 feet of snowfall each year. I’d not use them as a barometer.

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Ah, British exceptionalism is back! I’ve missed this theme in the coronavirus thread... we’re different because...

It turns out we don’t have a better healthcare system than China. Multi-generational households.

The floor is yours Pierre.

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I've no problem in tackling apparent contradictions as I did by posting the Tony Blair story on Sunday, the Nick Hancock story today and by condemning Margaret Ferrier.

You subscribe to the view that if they're Conservative they're exempt from such criticism. Sorry, I will continue to call such politicians out, regardless of their political party.

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In Andrew’s defence I’m not sure it takes that long with this Government. They seem to have a conveyor belt of useful stories coming out on a regular basis.

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There is much irony in that sentence, if only you could see it.

You’ve gone off on one again and totally missed it. Don’t drink on a Monday night.

That was said because we were talking about the U.K. and the NHS, and he referenced France. Which was irrelevant to the discussion......nothing more.

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To believe what we are seeing elsewhere won’t happen here is naive in the extreme unless we are doing something fundamentally different.

That means our test, trace, isolate has to be better, our healthcare system has to have more capacity and better treatments or we have greater restrictions that are being strictly adhered to.

I’m not seeing any evidence of these things. Cases steadily rising, hospital cases steadily rising, deaths steadily rising. The trajectory is inevitable.