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1andrew1 28-06-2020 00:59
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Another test for Sir Keir with the claim from Shadow Environment Minister Lloyd Russell-Moyle that JK Rowling was 'using her own sexual assault' to justify her views on transgender issues.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lt-ordeal.html

papa smurf 28-06-2020 06:45
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36041508)
Another test for Sir Keir with the claim from Shadow Environment Minister Lloyd Russell-Moyle that JK Rowling was 'using her own sexual assault' to justify her views on transgender issues.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lt-ordeal.html
Lets get burning them Harry Potter books that'll learn her;)

OLD BOY 28-06-2020 18:09
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36041508)
Another test for Sir Keir with the claim from Shadow Environment Minister Lloyd Russell-Moyle that JK Rowling was 'using her own sexual assault' to justify her views on transgender issues.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lt-ordeal.html
Don't they have anything important to report? :rolleyes:

pip08456 28-06-2020 18:38
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36041509)
Lets get burning them Harry Potter books that'll learn her;)
Noooooooooooooo! They can't do that now.

Look! North Korea lauds Harry Potter

heero_yuy 22-07-2020 13:44
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Quote:
Quote from Metro news: The Labour Party has agreed to pay ‘substantial damages’ to seven former employees and a reporter over ‘defamatory and false allegations’ following a BBC investigation into anti-Semitism.

A formal apology was also issued by Labour Party leader Sir Keir Starmer. Settlements to both journalist John Ware and the ex-employees are believed to have cost the party between £600,000 and £750,000, with about £200,000 in damages agreed for the eight individuals.

The seven whistleblowers, who worked in the party’s governance and legal unit and were responsible for the investigation of allegations of misconduct, sued Labour after it issued a press release describing them as having ‘personal and political axes to grind’.

The party also accused Mr Ware of conducting a ‘deliberate and malicious misrepresentations designed to mislead the public’ with the July 2019 BBC Panorama investigation entitled: ‘Is Labour Anti-Semitic?’
Keir Starmer has started the clearout, one wonders how deep this will go?

papa smurf 22-07-2020 14:23
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36044326)
Keir Starmer has started the clearout, one wonders how deep this will go?
Out of court hush money,labour still leaves a bad taste in the mouth,but he's done what lawyers do settle and keep it quiet.

Starmer faces mutiny from Corbyn allies after whistleblower apology

An army of supporters of Sir Keir Starmer’s predecessor Jeremy Corbyn have hit out after Labour agreed to pay "substantial damages" and issued an unreserved apology over "defamatory and false allegations" made following a BBC Panorama investigation
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...y-antisemitism

RichardCoulter 22-07-2020 17:35
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36044329)
Out of court hush money,labour still leaves a bad taste in the mouth,but he's done what lawyers do settle and keep it quiet.

Starmer faces mutiny from Corbyn allies after whistleblower apology

An army of supporters of Sir Keir Starmer’s predecessor Jeremy Corbyn have hit out after Labour agreed to pay "substantial damages" and issued an unreserved apology over "defamatory and false allegations" made following a BBC Panorama investigation
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...y-antisemitism
AKA an out of court settlement that I and many others have sensibly accepted on occasion.

Going to court there is a risk, however small, that you could lose. In addition, the court will want to know that all attempts to settle out of court have been exhausted before resorting to court action as a last resort. Out of court settlements also avoid legal costs for both parties, with the inherent risk that they may not be able to be claimed back.

papa smurf 22-07-2020 17:41
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36044339)
AKA an out of court settlement that I and many others have sensibly accepted on occasion.

Going to court there is a risk, however small, that you could lose. In addition, the court will want to know that all attempts to settle out of court have been exhausted before resorting to court action as a last resort. Out of court settlements also avoid legal costs for both parties, with the inherent risk that they may not be able to be claimed back.
Jezza thought they could win but starmer just caved in and paid up.

denphone 22-07-2020 17:54
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36044340)
Jezza thought they could win but starmer just caved in and paid up.
Starmer is not Corbyn as l thought you would have realised that by now....

papa smurf 22-07-2020 18:01
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36044345)
Starmer is not Corbyn as l thought you would have realised that by now....
Not much of a lawyer either if he folds before the case gets to court.

Hugh 22-07-2020 18:13
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36044348)
Not much of a lawyer either if he folds before the case gets to court.
Or....

Enough of a lawyer (you know, being a QC) to know they were going to lose the case, and just rack up larger legal bills.

papa smurf 22-07-2020 18:15
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36044350)
Or....

Enough of a lawyer (you know, being a QC) to know they were going to lose the case, and just rack up larger legal bills.
Fan club right on cue with the defense ;)

Maybe it was an ambulance that was not worth chasing eh

Hugh 22-07-2020 18:17
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36044351)
Fan club right on cue with the defense ;)
Not a big fan of Starmer, but a big fan of reality-based decision making.

Carth 22-07-2020 18:25
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36044352)
Not a big fan of Starmer, but a big fan of reality-based decision making.
gotta agree with Hugh, either:

apologise, pay some (hush) money and walk away

or

take it to court, possibly open up a can of worms, run the risk of losing, then pay double the amount of money for the privilege of having egg on your face ;)

no brainer really

denphone 22-07-2020 18:25
Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36044351)
Fan club right on cue with the defense ;)

Maybe it was an ambulance that was not worth chasing eh
No its not a fan club as his job as opposition leader to to scrutinise the government of the day which is a job he is doing much better then the previous leader..


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